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Heavy Fighting in AR Ramadi Iraq~~~ Sadr's fighters have attacked US Forces.
Fox News

Posted on 04/06/2004 11:53:54 AM PDT by Dog

Just broke on Fox


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: almadhi; alsadr; iraq; mahdiarmy; ramadi; religionofpieces; sadr
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To: kinghorse
We are arrayed like this to avoid presenting high value targets like barracks or dorms would present. Remember Beirut and Khobar. To do this right, our guys need pin point and fast tactical support or they are dead in short order. You can't fire when you can't lift your head.

Yes, I agree. And that was my point, that caused a lot of disagreement on this thread. I was airing a worry that the tactical air support might have not been as "robust" or quick as it should have been. And I later speculated that the Fallujah operation might have distracted the Marines from other concerns. We don't know.

This dispersal of forces presents opportunities to the enemy, and if they're game, they can take advantage of vulnerable pockets of our troops. My point about the 70 attackers is that 70 guys armed with AKs and RPGs can cause a lot of hurt, especially if they get a little bit lucky, and have the element of surprise on their side.

That article about Bremer trying to incite these sort of battles is very interesting.

1,161 posted on 04/06/2004 5:44:31 PM PDT by BushMeister
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To: McGavin999
Armchair generals make me sick

And there are plenty of them on FR.

There should be a disclaimer with all the armchair warriors, such as,

"I have never been in the miltary but I think am greater than MaCarthur and Patton put together when I post on FR".

1,162 posted on 04/06/2004 5:44:39 PM PDT by Dane
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To: TexasCowboy
"If the Marines were turned loose with everything they have we wouldn't have twelve dead Marines - we'd have a thousand dead Iraqis."

You're wrong there Tex. Even the most elite units take casulties because even the worst shooting bad guys get lucky. The Marines have lost 12 but the last I saw al-Sadr's guys have lost at least 130. That's a damn good ratio if you ask me.

From dealing with the Iraqi's they are bad shots at best with an AK so the ones the Marines that have been killed dies because of mortars and RPG's. Area weapons that don't require you to be a good shot.
1,163 posted on 04/06/2004 5:44:58 PM PDT by txradioguy (HOOAH!!!...Not Just A Word...A Way Of Life!!!)
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To: NewLand
I like the Quizno's right next to Kuwait!
1,164 posted on 04/06/2004 5:44:59 PM PDT by threat matrix
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To: Dane
I am an armchair Mrs. Miniver. I root for the troops and work in the garden. And pray.
1,165 posted on 04/06/2004 5:46:07 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: ryanjb2
I don't think you can assume that some aren't helping out. Apparently we have been getting good info from the locals about who the killers were that attacked our people in Falluja, plus you can't forget about people like that Iraqi doctor that helped save Jessica Lynch. Also, you have to remember that the Iraqi police have suffered alot of deaths over the past several months as a result of the actions of the Jihadists.
1,166 posted on 04/06/2004 5:46:38 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: Cuttnhorse
Where are you located?
1,167 posted on 04/06/2004 5:46:50 PM PDT by justanotherday
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To: Miss Marple
It was a large gold-copper mine...the company I work for is closing it down and I manage the construction part of the closure. I was an exploration geologist before getting into construction management...we must be versatile.
1,168 posted on 04/06/2004 5:47:41 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: TexasCowboy
Just exactly the response the dems and the terrorists are hoping for.

I happen to think that the Marines know what they are doing and have been given whatever they need to do it. There will be casualties. It's war.

I only worry about the nervous nellies that seems to think that war is now so clean and antiseptic that we should never expect casualties. That's a really good way to lose wars.
1,169 posted on 04/06/2004 5:48:40 PM PDT by Ramius (As it turns out... taxation *with* representation ain't all that great either.)
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To: CFC__VRWC
he doesn't swoon and slobber over the Hollyweird assclowns like Clooney, Penn, Robbins..............

I agree, but I find this of little importance.

He does it to make people think he is conservative. He is far from it in reality.

But, I guess that is what makes ratings........also makes his show totally unimportant.IMO

(But I suppose I am preaching to the choir in this case:-)

1,170 posted on 04/06/2004 5:48:50 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Notice! Looking for a replacement lawyer with only one hand! (who can't say "on the other hand")
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To: justanotherday
I'm about 6-hours north of Santiago...then east very near the Argentina border.
1,171 posted on 04/06/2004 5:48:58 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: Miss Marple
O'Reilly is sounding like Rose of Texas.

O'Reilly's the Crabgrass of Long Island.

He is so full of himself tonight. Wondering why he didn't get a Peabody Award when Bill Moyers did. Thinking he comes across as being Mr. O'Toughguy about the war in Iraq but he doesn't know what he is talking about.

1,172 posted on 04/06/2004 5:49:26 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Cuttnhorse
...and yet here you are on the Internet. Just damn...

and I got users that can't figure out how to get online from a Hilton in the middle of New York City. [sigh]
1,173 posted on 04/06/2004 5:50:08 PM PDT by Ramius (As it turns out... taxation *with* representation ain't all that great either.)
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To: Cuttnhorse
Thank you.
1,174 posted on 04/06/2004 5:50:10 PM PDT by justanotherday
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
Thank you,your grace.
1,175 posted on 04/06/2004 5:51:19 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Miss Marple
I really don't know what O'Reilly thinks the Iraqi people can do. If they go out into the streets with their guns, how do our guys know who is on what side? They could get killed and they know it so they stay home and keep their heads down. It's best they stay out of the way right now.
1,176 posted on 04/06/2004 5:51:30 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Expecting others to pay for your enjoyment of FreeRepublic is socialism: Donate now!)
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To: TexasCowboy
Shades of VietNam...........

No way! Not yet anyway!

More like shades of the Guadalcanal cleanup that was the most dangerous and costly cleanup ever, after the battle was fought and won.

1,177 posted on 04/06/2004 5:51:53 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Notice! Looking for a replacement lawyer with only one hand! (who can't say "on the other hand")
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To: MEG33
O'Reilly will be saying he wants to duke it out with Rumsfeld by the end of the program. Who appointed you Secretary of Defense, Bill Blowhard?
1,178 posted on 04/06/2004 5:52:04 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Miss Marple
I am an armchair Mrs. Miniver. I root for the troops and work in the garden. And pray

I never saw the movie in its entirety. Saw the last half I believe on AMC. Today that movie would be considered "jingoistic" by the liberal elite.

1,179 posted on 04/06/2004 5:52:29 PM PDT by Dane
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To: oceanview
That is one thing Ailes should do right away - his hosts should not be able to hawk their books, their shirts, mugs, door mats, none of that crap.

I don't have a problem with the factor gear, since he said that 100% of the proceeds go to charity. (Perhaps someone needs to check that out.

But the bookwriting, and book pushing has gotten to be too much. So far what I've seen of O'Reilly and Hannity, neither one is an authority on anything other than running their mouths.

1,180 posted on 04/06/2004 5:53:16 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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