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10 U.S. Troops Killed in Iraqi Violence (4 April, 2004)
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Posted on 04/04/2004 4:22:35 PM PDT by Happy2BMe

By KHALID MOHAMMED

(AP) A demonstrator tries to contain the crowds during an anti-American protest in Baghdad, Iraq, Sunday...
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NAJAF, Iraq (AP) - Supporters of an anti-American cleric rioted in four Iraqi cities Sunday, killing eight U.S. troops and one Salvadoran soldier in the worst unrest since the spasm of looting and arson immediately after the fall of Saddam Hussein.

The U.S. military on Sunday reported two Marines were killed in a separate "enemy action" in Anbar province, raising the toll of American service members killed in Iraq to at least 610.

The rioters were supporters of anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr. They were angry over Saturday's arrest on murder charges of one of al-Sadr's aides, Mustafa al-Yacoubi, and the closure of a pro-al-Sadr newspaper.

Near the holy city of Najaf, a gunbattle at a Spanish garrison killed at least 22 people, including two coalition soldiers - an American and a Salvadoran.

(AP) Supporters of al-Sadr's self-styled militia, the al-Mahdi Army, walk towards Kufa, Iraq, Sunday...
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Fighting in the Baghdad neighborhood of Sadr City killed seven U.S. soldiers and wounded at least 24, the U.S. military said in a written statement.

A resident said two Humvees were seen burning in the neighborhood, and that some American soldiers had taken refuge in a building. The report could not be independently confirmed, and it was unclear whether the soldiers involved were those who died.

A column of American tanks was seen moving through the center of Baghdad Sunday evening, possibly headed toward the fighting.

The military said the fighting erupted after members of a militia loyal to radical Shiite Muslim cleric Muqtada al-Sadr took control of police stations and government buildings in the neighborhood.

Protesters clashed with Italian and British forces in other cities in a broad, violent challenge to the U.S.-led coalition, raising questions about its ability to stabilize Iraq ahead of a scheduled June 30 handover of power to Iraqis.

(AP) American special forces join coalition soldiers as the Spanish base comes under attack outside...
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With less than three months left before then, the U.S. occupation administrator appointed an Iraqi defense minister and chief of national intelligence.

"These organizations will give Iraqis the means to defend their country against terrorists and insurgents," L. Paul Bremer said at a press conference.

About three miles outside the holy city of Najaf, supporters of al-Sadr opened fire on the Spanish garrison during a street protest that drew about 5,000 people. The protesters were angry over the arrest of the cleric's aide, said the Spanish Defense Ministry in Madrid.

The attackers opened fire at about noon, said Cmdr. Carlos Herradon, a spokesman for the Spanish headquarters in nearby Diwaniyah.

The Spanish and Salvadoran soldiers inside the garrison fired back, and assailants later regrouped in three clusters outside the base as the shooting continued for several hours.

(AP) American soldiers take cover as the Spanish base comes under attack outside Kufa, 15 kms north of...
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Two soldiers - a Salvadoran and an American - died and nine other soldiers were wounded, the Spanish defense ministry said. No other details were available.

More than 200 people were wounded, said Falah Mohammed, director of the Najaf health department. El Salvador's defense minister said several Salvadoran soldiers were wounded.

The death toll of at least 20 included two Iraqi soldiers who were inside the Spanish base, witnesses said.

Spain has 1,300 troops stationed in Iraq, and the Central American contingent is of a similar size. The Salvadorans are under Spanish command as part of an international brigade that includes troops from Central America.

Multiple train bombings in Madrid last month that killed 191 people have been blamed on al-Qaida-linked terrorists, who said they were punishing Spain for its alliance with the United States in Iraq and Afghanistan.

(AP) A Salvadorean soldier runs for cover as his base comes under attack outside Kufa, 15 kms north of...
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Spain's new government, elected just days after the March 11 train bombings, has promised to make good on its pre-election promise to withdraw all Spanish troops from Iraq unless command for peacekeeping is turned over to the United Nations.

In El Salvador, the defense minister said the attack will not alter his country's role in reconstruction efforts.

"It reinforces even more our decision to continue helping a country that is suffering," Juan Antonio Martinez said Sunday.

The protesters were upset over the detention of al-Yacoubi, a senior aide to the 30-year-old al-Sadr, who opposes the U.S.-led occupation of Iraq. Al-Sadr is at odds with most Shiites, who hope to gain substantial power in the new Iraqi government.

Shiites comprise about 60 percent of Iraq's 25 million people but were brutally repressed by the regime of Saddam Hussein, a Sunni Muslim.

(AP) An American soldier runs for cover as the Spanish base comes under attack outside Kufa, 15 kms...
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At coalition headquarters in Baghdad, a senior official said on condition of anonymity that al-Yacoubi was detained Saturday on charges of murdering Abdel-Majid al-Khoei, a senior Shiite cleric who returned to Iraq after the U.S.-led invasion. A total of 25 arrest warrants were issued, and 13 suspects have been arrested, the official said.

Spanish-led forces said they did not participate in the arrest.

In central Baghdad's Firdaus Square, police fired warning shots during a protest by hundreds of al-Sadr supporters against al-Yacoubi's arrest. At least two protesters were injured, witnesses said.

In Kufa, near Najaf, al-Sadr supporters took over a police station and seized guns inside. No police were in sight.

In the southern city of Nasiriyah, Italian troops traded fire with militiamen demonstrating against al-Yacoubi's detention, said Lt. Col. Pierluigi Monteduro, chief of staff of Italian troops in the region. One Italian officer was wounded in the leg.

Also in the south, British troops clashed with protesters in Amarah, according to the Ministry of Defense in London. It was unclear whether there were casualties.

Al-Sadr's office in Baghdad issued a statement later Sunday calling off street protests and saying the cleric would stage a sit-in at a mosque in Kufa, where he has delivered fiery weekly sermons for months.

Al-Sadr supporters also were angered by the March 28 closure of his weekly newspaper by U.S. officials. The Americans alleged the newspaper was inciting violence against coalition troops.

The two U.S. Marines, both assigned to the 1st Marine Division, were killed by an "enemy action" in Anbar province Saturday, the military said. One died Saturday and the other Sunday, the statement said without providing details.

Anbar is an enormous stretch of land reaching to the Jordanian and Syrian borders west of Baghdad that includes Fallujah, a city where four American civilian contractors were slain Wednesday.

At a checkpoint in Samarra, about 60 miles north of Baghdad, that was manned by Iraqi Civil Defense personnel, a bomb killed three security officers and wounded another, workers at Samarra General Hospital said.

In Kirkuk, also in the north, a car bomb exploded, killing three civilians and wounding two others, police said.

Bremer on Sunday announced the appointments of Ali Allawi, the interim trade minister, as the new defense minister and Mohammed al-Shehwani, a former Iraqi air force officer who fled Iraq in 1990, as head of the Iraqi National Intelligence Service.

Late Sunday, U.N. envoy Lakhdar Brahimi and a team that will assist Iraqis in the political transition to an interim Iraqi government arrived in Baghdad, the United Nations said.



TOPICS: Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alsadr; alyacoubi; casualties; fallen; iraq; najaf; religionofpieces; sadrcity
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To: Happy2BMe
The Muslim scum needs to he wiped out. They have the same idea about US. Who will be left standing? Pull the troops back to the oil fields and let the Iraqi scum kill each other. Help em along with some well placed B52 sorties to keep the shites and sunni from either getting an upper hand.

The only ones supporting us are the ones we are paying 1000 percent more than what they got under Saddam.

Has anyone seen the big Pro America Demonstration in Iraq lately? Me neither.
41 posted on 04/04/2004 5:23:53 PM PDT by TomasUSMC
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A member of Shiite radical cleric Moqtada al-Sadr's Army of Mehdi fires with his Kalashnikov at Spanish-led troops outside the Iraqi Shiite holy city of Najaf.(AFP/Karim Sahib)


42 posted on 04/04/2004 5:24:08 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Become a FR Monthly Donor ... Kerry thread archive @ /~normsrevenge)
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To: Happy2BMe; Travis McGee; archy
That would be my guess, or at least former squid of some sort. The photo is labeled "special forces" so it could encompass any number of units...active or retired...maybe a few of Blackwater's finest working on some payback...
43 posted on 04/04/2004 5:30:25 PM PDT by in the Arena ("rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.” ~ Orwell)
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To: NormsRevenge
you're so right-- I am in terrible pain over this. I can't tell you how disappointed I am in the Rat party. I knew they were capable of treason, but I never imagined that they would actively work against us like they have--it's so disgraceful!

In modern wars, the liberal media and the treasonous wing of the democrat party will cause us to be defeated. They simply have no conscience and people are dying because they put their social politics and ambition ahead of their country and the lives of its heroes.
44 posted on 04/04/2004 5:31:31 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: TomasUSMC
do you see any in America? 1000s of anti-war protestors were in NYC a couple weeks ago, did you see any pro-america march?

the silent majority never engages in things like this, that's why they are called the "SILENT" majority.
45 posted on 04/04/2004 5:34:04 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Happy2BMe

A US soldier checks the scene of an explosion in Baghdad's al-Dora district.(AFP/Cris Bouroncle)

May God keep our soldiers safe and comfort the loved ones of today's casualties.


46 posted on 04/04/2004 5:40:15 PM PDT by ride the whirlwind (GOP - grace over pressure)
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To: river rat
If we don't unleash our warriors to fight and destroy their warriors - we should surrender immediately and come home..."

That is exactly what a military is supposed to be for. Evidence of that is how effective they were at their rightful purpose at the beginning of this war.

Now, it's not a war, it's fiasco, a mess and our soldiers do not deserve this. They are nothing more than targets (or "prey") in a wild animal rich environment.

Any directive than: go in destroy completely the enemy and get out, is madness and a waste of our best and brightest, our brave and precious.

This is madness...
Bush is going to fall as a result of his attempt to "play nice" with lunatics....
Lunatics must NOT be allowed to murder our troops with no price to pay...

Our soldiers can do their trained job very effectively if allowed to. That is a given that has been proven. Not given the allowance, then they are fodder for the slaughter on defense like this.

Bush is going to fall. It was his to lose and that is exactly where he is headed with this policy concerning our troops. What do they call it? "Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory?" It's sad, because the man has integrity and honor, and John Kerry will lead this nation down the crap-hole if elected (we'll think we had it good under bubba). Like another poster stated: all my optimism evaporated, but mine evaporated some time back when there was no "effective" and proper response to attacks even before the Fallujah atrocity.

47 posted on 04/04/2004 5:41:00 PM PDT by KriegerGeist ("Only one life to live and soon tis past, and only what was done for Jesus Christ will last")
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To: section9
The Marines waited to long. When dealing with these types you need to react quick, and you need to hit them and hurt them. They need to see the cause and effect. If you don't, this today is what happens.

It would have cost no lives, to send artillery down on Fullujah. The same with Aircraft. But we are trying to find the exact culprits. This is suicidal. And it cost us today. If we don't declare Martial Law and break them all down now, we will have brought and bought our own Vietnam again.

We still don't control the borders, ( Of course, lately we seem to have a problem with border don't we?)

No more Compassionate Combat. You want Compassion - Go See The Movie.
48 posted on 04/04/2004 5:45:08 PM PDT by TomasUSMC
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To: oceanview
You didn't see me and my friends then. We were out and hit them in two cities the same day. But you are right when it comes to numbers.

If we don't fight for our Country here we don't deserve it. Same goes for the Iraqis.

Let the Iraqi animals chew on each other. And when they come to bit US, fire for effect.

49 posted on 04/04/2004 5:55:42 PM PDT by TomasUSMC
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To: Happy2BMe
The rioters were supporters of anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr. They were angry over Saturday's arrest on murder charges of one of al-Sadr's aides, Mustafa al-Yacoubi, and the closure of a pro-al-Sadr newspaper.

Ohhhhhhhhh.....up till then they were just a bunch of Casper Milquetoasts who sat around all day drinking tea while doing the Al-Sadr Times crossword puzzle.

50 posted on 04/04/2004 5:57:39 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: Happy2BMe
Their blood should be flowing ankle deep in the streets. Our boys should be FEARED, not loathed.

Bush better get his commanders the word - we are the conquering army, not a bunch of policemen. We don't take shit from anyone or any group. If the mosque is the source of the problem, them blow em' up and turn them into graveyards.

Does anybody on this board remember the ROK Army and ROK Special Forces in Vietnam? Lets give a call and invite em' over for some more fun.
51 posted on 04/04/2004 5:59:02 PM PDT by ASTM366
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To: Happy2BMe
All bullets are to be slightly rubbed in bacon before loading into magazines. Poof!!!..no more 72 virgins.
Want to demonstrate..go ahead..make my day.
52 posted on 04/04/2004 5:59:19 PM PDT by UltraKonservativen (( YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID ))
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To: All
When are we going to use those annoying weapons that screech so loud that they can make the aggressor drop everything and hold their ears? Where is that perimeter defense device that sends out microwaves that give you that hot burning sensation? Use the damn things! We are not going to bring most of the iraqis into the civilized western world nor get them away from their tribal backgrounds and religious beliefs over night. Its a dream that will take decades not a year or two. It will require years of re-education to get them to think beyond their ignorance. Our main objective should be to get rid of the trouble makers asap irregardless of their standing. Remove them from the picture, Operation Phoenix Part Deux if need be.
53 posted on 04/04/2004 6:05:20 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Tag line under renovation.)
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To: Happy2BMe
We have eliminated the armed forces of this mad dog state and probably should be satisfied. They will not be an armed threat to their neighbors, the US or Israel for many years regardless of their governance. Against my better judgment, I got carried away with the optimism of the Bush Administration regarding the desire of the Iraqi people to move toward some sort of democracy or any kind of enlightenment. I fell for this because I wanted to believe it, though reasoned thought told me otherwise. Muslim arabs are not now nor perhaps until after the passage of a century or more will be ready for anything other than some form of dictatorship. We were much too soft in our handling of the aftermath of the war. If we had handled the aftermath of the war as we handled the aftermath of WWII in Germany and Japan, outlawing under pain of death the display of anti-american behavior or any display of Saddamism, Baathism and terroristic Islamic fanaticism and totally controlled their media (press and electronic) until we had routed out these despicable philsophies, we might have succeeded.

We should announce to the world that we do not plan on liberating any country from despotism in the future but a strike against us from any country will result in a catastrophe to that country. The President should declare a national state of emergency and drill oil in every possible venue (off shore, in wildlife preserves and anywhere else within the jurisdiction of the US where it may be found and set aside environmental suits and build whatever refineres we need.)

Frankly, I have no solution for where we find ourselves today in Iraq, short of "Iraqi est omnia divisa in partes tres". Let the Kurds (the only sane people over there) have the North and continue technical aide for them. Just leave the rest of Iraq to its fate. Perhaps after the Sunnis and Shia liquidate at least half of each others population, the Kurds can move in and consolidate the rest of the country but whatever, get out now. Someday maybe they will get serious about peace and we can assist them at that time but we never do nation building again unless we do so as we did in Japan and Germany, with absolutely no quarter given to any interference in our efforts.
54 posted on 04/04/2004 6:07:53 PM PDT by brydic1
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To: Iberian
FYI
55 posted on 04/04/2004 6:20:25 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: mcshot; TomGuy; mikegi; oceanview; LonghornFreeper; Geist Krieger; Ragtime Cowgirl; Skooz; ...
Folks - we got some SERIES SHI'ITE going down this weekend.

If Bush won't "LOOSE THE DOGS," and do it NOW - he may give away this reelction bid on a platter to J-FK.

Our nation WILL NOT TOLERATE ANOTHER VIETNAM - PERIOD!

I personally have a son right in the thick of this shi'ite. I don't take kindly to him being thrown out there for cannon fodder to server political ends.

I'm NOT saying that is what is going on here. But - SOMETHING is definitely going on, and it is NOT in the favor of our troops in Iraq.

Has anybody besides me and a few others around here noticed the "STAND-DOWN, SIT-DOWN, SHUT-UP and GET SHOT" atomosphere being handed down to our troops in Iraq?

I DID NOT write the following, it was forwarded to me by an ultra-conservative FREEPER (you heard it right).

Listen to this:

"Happy - I think this weekend is going to prove the downfall (or the beginning of the downfall) of President Bush.

Iraq is a deadly disaster. There is going to be no defeat of these terrorists. The attacks are increasing and more deadly. Why? Because terrorists and money and weapons and explosives keep flowing in from Syria, Iran and "our friends" Saudi Arabia.

There is going to be no "peace in the Middle East" neither. "Satan don't do peace" He say: "wash yu talkin 'bout Christian democracy boyz? weez doan doan be doin dat no time soon!"

If what happened this week and weekend was just one small part of Iraq or it was just once in a great while, but overall we were making more progress or advancement) than defeat and set-backs, then it would be worth it... And, if we were to respond to all the attacks in a disproportionate way like Elliot Ness: they injure one of ours we kill ten of theirs, they kill one of ours, we wipe out a hundred of theirs. Animals, wolves, tigers, lions understand power and mastery...and kindness will get you killed trying to use it on them.

Bush is on the ropes and he is not ordering (or allowing) the Generals to wipe them out. I saw a General on TV talking tough. Then, the next day, he toned it down and made nice like a "political" and said is women and children are close or get in the way, then we have to back off and wait for a better day...blah blah blah. That dog of war was growling to be ordered to "sic em" and was leashed up by...who? Washington? Bush? Powell? Joint Chiefs?

Something ain't right.

END OF QUOTE:

Bush better wake up and let his generals be generals or he won't be the one calling the shots in 2005.

Seriesly.

56 posted on 04/04/2004 6:21:21 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: Happy2BMe
the personal tragedy of families who have lost soldiers is devasting for them.

while we surely have an issue with how we are conducting operations, what the rules of engagement are, the idea that these deaths somehow mean we are "losing" the war is off base. so are the comparisons to vietnam, that is a total media spin job. what was the typical loss of life each month to US forces in Vietnam?
57 posted on 04/04/2004 6:26:21 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: in the Arena
"In the Navy, come on and sail the seven seas..."
58 posted on 04/04/2004 6:26:38 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: section9; Happy2BMe; Alamo-Girl; onyx; ALOHA RONNIE; SpookBrat; Republican Wildcat; Howlin; ...
10 U.S. Troops Killed in Iraqi Violence (4 April, 2004)

Another day in Iraq, peeps.

Look, let's all calm down and let the Marines do their Fallujah thing. You'll find that Al-Sadr will sober up real quick when that occurs.

Be Seeing You,

Chris


Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my General Interest ping list!. . .don't be shy.

59 posted on 04/04/2004 6:29:03 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Become a monthly donor on FR. No amount is too small and monthly giving is the way to go !)
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To: oceanview; B4Ranch; JackelopeBreeder
"what was the typical loss of life each month to US forces in Vietnam?"

Well, you're preaching to the choir.

Body bags speak louder than politics. I can handle it if we are not hogtied like we were in Nam.

We've got the means and the justification - WHERE IS THE LEADERSHIP?

60 posted on 04/04/2004 6:30:27 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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