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7 U.S. Soldiers killed in Iraq (April 4th)
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Posted on 04/04/2004 2:06:10 PM PDT by Gringo1

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:39:26 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: baghdad; deaths; fallen; firefight; iraq; muslims; soldiers; ussoldiers
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To: DoughtyOne
"To be sure, many of the Iraqis deserve the comments you made. There are other Iraqis as well. They want nothing more than to earn a living, provide for their families and live in peace. That's why I'd temper your comments somewhat."

I addressed my remarks to the resistance. Not the families wanting to live in peace. I would not temper anything at this point. Some people just need killing. Iraq... seems to have produced a bumper crop of them.
121 posted on 04/04/2004 4:04:31 PM PDT by bluecollarman
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To: DoughtyOne
It would personally protect them more than not being armed. Sure, they'd be better able to protect themselves with nukes and missile batteries and helicopters and chemical weapons and such, but what they have is better than nothing. I'd want whatever I could get my hands on to protect my home and family. I'd at least be able to take out some opposition in the process.
122 posted on 04/04/2004 4:04:40 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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The Iraqi people should be armed -- not with RPG launchers and RPG rounds
123 posted on 04/04/2004 4:05:25 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: montag813
What about a huge campaign in Iraq showing billboards, posters, flyers with a huge PEN on them and a smaller sword with the international "don't" circle-plus-diagonal-slash around it. In Arabic say "The pen is mightier than the sword."

Explain that the coalition and government will hear any written grievances or ideas about Iraq's future if written cogently.

Anyone fomenting or taking part in anything violent, cleric or not, will be severely punished.

124 posted on 04/04/2004 4:08:33 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: bluecollarman
I believe your second sentence provided quite a gray area of doubt who you were talking to, but thanks for the reply.
125 posted on 04/04/2004 4:09:20 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Just so we're clear, I care more about our troops than the average Iraqi who hasn't been the target of violence to this point in the least.
126 posted on 04/04/2004 4:10:29 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: browardchad
These people are demonstrating that they aren't ready for democracy, and in spite of all the "feel-good" rhetoric, it comes as no surprise. The best we can hope for is to create the conditions that lead to the beginnings of democracy -- with a fist in a velvet glove.

Well, it at least shows that people like me who supported a three-state solution from the start were right. The Kurds in Kurdistan could easily be responsible democratic allies. The other two nations of Shia and Sunni control could fight each other all they wanted until they decided it was stupid to do so anymore.

127 posted on 04/04/2004 4:11:57 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Iraqis weren't armed then like they are now.
128 posted on 04/04/2004 4:14:22 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: jbstrick
I still wonder if they were really HIS WMD's...

I think he does, and so is the mindset for getting these weapons still in existence. He was very close to getting a nuke, and I find it hard to believe he gave in right at that moment. He may have even given such info on the nukes to some terror groups, and he simply is getting rid of the evidence.

Nonetheless, the Arab world continues to have numerous countries such as Egypt, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Syria working to get nukes, and other WMD.

129 posted on 04/04/2004 4:15:19 PM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: Rome2000
Yep. Political correctness has paralyzed us and made us incapable of trying to ensure, in any meaningful way, the safety of our troops, and incapable even of defending our own lives at home. Our borders are wide open. We're afraid to do what really needs to be done in the Middle East. We're just sitting here waiting for the next disaster to strike. But then, that's the way the 'rats want it. They should be paralyzed with fear of us, but it seems they have us paralyzed with fear of them. Pitiful.
130 posted on 04/04/2004 4:15:25 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Thanks for the exchange. Take care.
131 posted on 04/04/2004 4:16:27 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
I'm just saying it's untenable. It's like socialized medicine. It looks real good on paper, but it is a mess when put into effect. You can't disarm them and expect their support. Besides, the only way we can win is to hit opposition with our technology over their numbers. Going house to house gives the opposition the edge in the match-up.
132 posted on 04/04/2004 4:17:57 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Dog
Yep .. it's time for a big time crack down
133 posted on 04/04/2004 4:19:18 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: yonif
"Political correctness and world opinion prevents the US from taking action against him and those like him"

I stared at that sentence for a minute and I think it's just the opposite. Nothing has prevented us, I believe, from taking action. We have and are taking action regardless of what the "so called" PC and world opinion SEEMS to be saying and so far - so good relatively speaking - we are winning, we are making headway - we are making ground, defensives are being built up - as quickly as possible! When are boys die - ALL OF US want to go drop some very big bombs right away, put our fists down and say - that's it last straw - nuktheplace! Patience - we have had to do A LOT in a few years and now we have to get through NOVEMBER - then things will be different!!!
134 posted on 04/04/2004 4:20:06 PM PDT by Esther Ruth (George W. Bush - My Kids Newest Bestest Super Hero of ALL TIME)
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To: Esther Ruth
Have you ever heard the US say that we are fighting militant Islam?
135 posted on 04/04/2004 4:21:01 PM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: Mo1
Actually, I would hold in Sadr City and conduct a ruthless cordon and search operation in Fallujah. Let Al Jazeerah broadcast the Marine shoot and scoot throughout the whole ME. Let them see what happens to those who f*%k with us.

That will give Al-Sadr and his goons pause.If we crack the toughest nut first, the rest will follow!

Besides, there isn't a Shi'ite in Iraq who doesn't want to see Saddam's toadies get what's coming to them. You might even see the Shi'as back off for a while so we can do their dirty work for them.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

136 posted on 04/04/2004 4:25:25 PM PDT by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "John Kerry: all John F., no Kennedy..." Click on my pic!)
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To: Mo1
This is the big push from the bad guys.....it will get very bloody between now and June 30th.
137 posted on 04/04/2004 4:28:21 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Gringo1
10 U.S. Troops Killed in Iraqi Violence (4 April, 2004)
 

138 posted on 04/04/2004 4:30:16 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: section9
Chris I saw an article on another site....it seems Sadr had this planned out very well......he has been busing in young men all day to Sadr City......they took over several police stations .......and ambushed the US rescue force.

Sadr told followers to "go terrorize our enemies...."

139 posted on 04/04/2004 4:31:30 PM PDT by Dog
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To: montag813
I agree with all three points. Especially point 3. We cannot allow American servicemen to die to allow sharia in Iraq - it would be a slap in the face of all who were killed or maimed there. That would be akin to allowing Naziism or Bushido to continue to thrive in post war Germany and Japan, respectively.

It's far past time to designate falluja and other shitholes as free-fire zones - latter day Rung Sats. Send in re-composed Phoenix teams and eliminate the muslim pricks. Better yet, stand up a couple battalions of iraqi militia, cordon off falluja, etc, send them in to "cleanse" the place - shatilla and sabra, remember? They know who is who and can do the job. Gloves off - guns up.
140 posted on 04/04/2004 4:31:34 PM PDT by astounded
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