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To: greenwolf
That's all you've got?

Complete this sentence: "There are none so blind..."

The problem is that I could go to any academic library in America to the math section and however many books they have on probability and statistics, that's how much evidence I'd have AGAINST evolution. Every one of those books is a blanket refutation of evolution, from alpha to omega, from the front cover to the back cover. Page after page after page after page after......

I've read a great number of those books (far more than you have, I'll wager), and I didn't find anything in them that could reasonably be considered "a blanket refutation of evolution".

On the contrary, the mathematics of evolution works out very nicely whenever it's examined.

So rather than blustering, "the evidence against evolution is, um, over there in that big library somewhere, really!", why don't you actually present a piece of this "blanket refutation" you allege exists in those math books, so that at the very least we can determine whether you, with all due repect, have the slightest clue what you're talking about.

I await your mathematical disproof of evolution. Be sure to show your work, using additional pieces of paper if necessary. (Fair warning: I've read and analyzed all the usual creationist "mathematical disproofs" of evolution, and you're going to get shredded if you try to cut-and-paste one of them, because they're all deeply flawed and monumentally ignorant of the topic they're attempting to analyze).

Your move.

111 posted on 04/02/2004 9:35:33 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon
On the contrary, the mathematics of evolution works out very nicely whenever it's examined.

Apparently, there have been a number of symposia at which some of the world's formost mathematicians tried to explain things to evolutionists, and the evolutionists are still in states of shock and denial.

112 posted on 04/02/2004 10:25:05 PM PST by greenwolf
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To: Ichneumon
Proof (which you will choose to ignore of course)

1. To make a mathematical formula of any kind takes intelligence. Show me a pattern in nature that is not complex ( fractals, DNA )
2. The simplest way to demonstrate statistical probability is to flip a coin. Heads or Tails ?
only problem is it takes someone to flip the coin.
3. First Law of Physics.
Debate over , you lose
115 posted on 04/02/2004 11:18:30 PM PST by Freesofar
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To: Ichneumon
I await your mathematical disproof of evolution. Be sure to show your work, using additional pieces of paper if necessary. (Fair warning: I've read and analyzed all the usual creationist "mathematical disproofs" of evolution, and you're going to get shredded if you try to cut-and-paste one of them, because they're all deeply flawed and monumentally ignorant of the topic they're attempting to analyze).

#3 first Law of Physics

1st Law of debating: never answer a question that is designed to refract the point.
Mathematics cannot prove or disprove creation.
Only faith can do that.
I have never been to Japan but I have faith it is there.
I have never seen an electron but I have faith an electron will deliver this message to your brain.
116 posted on 04/02/2004 11:28:43 PM PST by Freesofar
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