MoveOn Balks at Proposed FEC Rules Changes by Scaring Nonprofits (FEC Email Needs FReeping! NOW!)

Talon News ^ | April 2, 2004 | Jimmy Moore

[Gen. Longstreet]

Have you thought about the fact that this will also cripple the Club for Growth, Grassfire, The Rifle Association, Right to Life, and a host of conservative groups.

Free speech for me but not for thee doesn't work too well.

[bayourod]

"What if the FEC rules that it's in fact illegal? Then what happens "

The press and Democrats will scream that the law is unfair. We magnaminoulsly consent to have it repealed. Then we out-spend them ten to one in soft money ads.

[Peach]

That's CalKat. Never take a position that supports the RNC but defend the DNC. We get it.

[CalKat]

And what position was I taking? Perhaps you can find a community college in your area and learn to read.

[Peach]

Since the day you have joined this forum you have yet to make ONE post that defends the RNC or the conservative position.

Moby....

[CalKat]

blah blah blah

Peachy....

[Peach]

I wonder if the RNC included the conservative groups which run similar ads in their FEC complaint.

It's so interesting you can't name ONE conservative group that is running a similar ad.

[TBP]

Interesting that Move On did an ad supporting Senator Ketchup's "economic plan" (in some detail) before Senator Ketchup released it. But I'm sure there is no coordination whatsoever, right?

[CalKat]

What makes you think I can't name one conservative group that is running a similar ad? I could name Citizens United, which is running the Kerry "priceless" ad. You make so many assumptions, and you know what they say about that...

[LisaMalia]

A friend of mine sent this to me via email a couple of weeks ago. I haven't been able to confirm it, but it sure is interesting:

Link Between Moveon And Kerry?

Do identical donation pages tracking unique team numbers show relationship between John Kerry's campaign and MoveOn.org?

Judge Napolitano on The big Story on Fox News just showed a Letter from Moveon asking for contributions to John Kerry with a link. That link ended in Team=437 at the end of the link.

Now go to: http://www.Johnkerry.com and highlight the "Make a Contribution Link": /contribute3.johnkerry.co...l?team=138 It says team=138.

The Donation pages are identical in nature, form, and function in the sense they track the donations back to moveon.

Therefore they are tracking donations specific from Moveon thus applying a causal relationship between the two of them.

It is interesting that the PAC donation section on moveon no longer has a team number attached, but the letter shown on Fox did.

How did they get assigned a team number for contributions of Team Number 437 if they are not in a relationship?

Looking at the HTML source and at the link at the end of this sentence: Contribute to Senator Kerry's Presidential campaign here. It still shows a "team=349" URL like this:

Contribute to Senator Kerry's Presidential campaignhere

So, one has to ask the question: Who assigned Moveon.org the "Team=349" for use on their PAC page?

[Peach]

I realize this is a nuance you will not understand, but from the article above:

"Jill Holtzman Vogel, chief counsel for the RNC, said evidence of coordination between MoveOn.org and other Democratic-supporting 527 groups and the Kerry campaign in violation of the new campaign finance law could not be clearer."

There is not similar coordination between the Bush administration and Citizens United. BIG difference.

[DiamondDon1]

Sent my e-mail to Mai T. Dinh!

DD

[Freedom2specul8]

"Nevertheless, MoveOn.org tells its supporters that any action conducted by the FEC regarding donations to various MoveOn.org fundraising efforts will not be traced back to the specific donors."

Does anyone really believe this? After all the missing documents from the clinton administration?

[sauropod]

You truly don;t know WTF is going on...

[Peach]

You sound so intelligent when you talk like that.

We have seen the direct linkage between MoveOn.org and the Kerry campaign.

Why don't you provide a similar linkage between the Bush admin. and the RNC group mentioned by CalKat, if you can? You can't, of course.

[TexasCajun]

Why don't we see Johnny McCain raising hell over the violations of his pet C.F.R. law?

[hocndoc]

Even a stopped clock is right 2 times a day.

If (a great big IF, here) the Bush Administration is, indeed, trying to increase the restrictions on political speech, then they should stop, now.

I don't like Moveon.org at all. I'm convinced that they are a Communist front for the far left of the Democrats.


But, if they aren't allowed by law to criticise the President or the local dog catcher, then neither am I or you.


The campaign finance laws have already gone too far.


Wouldn't it be great if the Communists spent more of their money and the results were to kill McCain/Feingold?

[hocndoc]

oops, "neither *are* you and I..."

[sauropod]

*Yawn*

[bert]

There is a flip side to all this. Republican groups are being reigned in till the matter is decided.

It seems to me to be a win win fork manuver.

If the movement is stopped, lots of rat money and hopes are down the drain.

If it is allowed to continue, untold numbers of Republican groups including an unknown number right here can be formed and there is no telling the havoc on the rats that will result.