[looscnnn]

My question is how many are truely unemployed? Unemployment rates don't include students or unemployed people that have given up searching for a job.

[Petronski]

Unemployment rates don't include students or unemployed people that have given up searching for a job.

Nor do they include those who leave the 'employee' workforce to become self-employed, by starting their own enterprise.

[AlbertWang]

My question is how many are truely unemployed? Unemployment rates don't include students or unemployed people that have given up searching for a job.

Also doesn't count Bums, Wino, Crack Whores, Panhandlers, Welfare cheats and other members of key Democrat voting blocks.

[rhombus]

My question is how many are truely unemployed? Unemployment rates don't include students or unemployed people that have given up searching for a job.

No doubt it is a silly figure but the Dems have staked their futures on this figure. The rates also don't include people who "gave up searching for a job" and went into business for themselves which after all helps us all to have more people creating wealth.

[templar]

My question is how many are truely unemployed?

Employment and unemployment always go up and down. Students aren't counted and the unemployed who are going back to school because they can't find anything are not counted. Likewise, the lower end worker that has given up and gone on welfare pretty much permanently isn't counted. But these have always been with us and really aren't (IMO) a wotrhwhile indicator of the health of the economy and employment.

I would be much more interested in seeing the number of individual tax returns filed and the average reported income compared to previous years (perhaps broken down by employment category), but I never seem to find these reported. This would give a truer picture of how healthy the employment market and economy really is (or isn't). Total tax revenues, both Federal and State, would also be a good indicator IMO, broken down by State, region, and overall collections. It's quite possible for one area of the country to be booming and another in a near depression. I wonder where one would find these statistics?

[Coop]

My question is how many are truely unemployed?

308,000 less than last month.

[Proud_texan]

"truly unemployed"

I dunno but it occurs to me that if I went to my wife and said "honey, it's just no use, I'm not looking any more" I'd soon be out of a house and a marriage.

Does anybody who really needs a job just "give up" and start living under a bridge?

Occurs to me that the "given up" is a canard created by the commies every election time. Speaking of which go find out the unemployment number during Clinton's second term election and ask yourself why the sky wasn't falling then?

The answer is obvious, to the commies that control the media the sky is always falling when a republican is running for re-election (think Reagan and the only jobs being created were "burger flipping" jobs).

If you listen to commies you'll end up with commie lies.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Looking for that cloud behind the silver lining, aren't you?

I'm sure that you're deeply saddened by these news.

[Trust but Verify]

What about the unemployed who have no intention of working or even looking for work until they are out of unemployment benefits? There are a lot of those out there.

[Sybeck1]

"My question is how many are truly unemployed? Unemployment rates don't include students or unemployed people that have given up searching for a job."

Who are these so called "given up looking for work" people? Are they dead beats that are sponging off their parents or wifes, prima donnas afraid to break a sweat? Men work, they don't gripe. When I found myself between work a few years back I delivered pizza at night and in turn, brought home 3X a week what a UE check was worth! This generation is so lazy!

[GraniteStateConservative]

There's a U6 number that picks up most everyone. It doesn't really count people who took 40%-50% pay cuts, for example, who are employed but hate their job because of the pay cut and might be angry at Bush.

[Sorcerer3]

ROTFL!! What do you suppose these people who "just give up" do? Go homeless on the streets rather than get ANY f'ing job? LOL!!

See, this is what happens when the goverment refuses to extend unemployment entitlements. PEOPLE GO BACK TO WORK when it runs out.

If people can't find a job after 2 years on unemployment then they have some serious mental issues they need to deal with. It's idiocy to pander to those who are unwilling to carry their own weight in society. I have no apathy for those types. There are jobs out there and there have been jobs out there for people. Every Sunday when I open up the classifieds to the help wanted section there are usually several pages worth of jobs. I just suppose some people are just too good for those jobs though so they deserve to starve or lose their homes as a result of their own petty self absorbed snobbish attitude.

As for students, there are plenty of jobs at McDonalds, Burger King, or the like out there. If they don't like those jobs then screw 'em.

Beggers can't be choosers. Take what you get or what's offered or create your own job. It's that simple.

[VRWCmember]

My question is how many are truely unemployed? Unemployment rates don't include students or unemployed people that have given up searching for a job.

That's right. Unemployment rate is number of unemployeed workers divided by total workforce. Those who are not in the workforce (either because they are full-time students or because they have dropped out of the workforce and are no longer seeking employment) do not count as unemployeed workers. Your question seems to imply that you would count these people among the unemployed.

[mjaneangels@aolcom]

"Unemployment rates don't include students or unemployed people that have given up searching for a job."

That is a fair enough question. There are only 3 types of people that give up searching for jobs. Those that have found another job, those that have decided to make their own way (created a business) and those that no longer need to earn a wage (Bush Tax Cuts so that husband and wife no longer both need to work to pay taxes...one of them can stay home and take care of the home).