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Secret bunkers held chemical weapons, says Iraqi exile
The Age ^ | April 1, 2004 | Russell Skelton

Posted on 04/01/2004 9:28:21 PM PST by neverdem

A scientist describes Saddam's weapons and stealth technology programs, reports Russell Skelton.

For seven years, before he was tortured and sentenced to death, Rashid (not his real name) worked at the top of Iraq's scientific establishment. He says he regularly met Saddam Hussein and his cousin and strongman deputy prime minister Abdul Tawab Huweish. After the Gulf War he was put in charge of a taskforce code named "Al Babel" to develop stealth technology to make aircraft and missiles undetectable on radar.

Rashid, who now lives in Melbourne, also claims to have had access as a trusted insider to secret underground bunkers where chemical weapons were stored. "Saddam gave me access to everything, he was so desperate to perfect the stealth technology," he says.

Now Rashid's great fear is that Saddam loyalists still active in postwar Iraq may get to the chemicals and weapons he saw hidden away before fleeing for his life.

"If those weapons still exist, the worry is that they will be used against the Iraqi people, the US forces or even sold off to al-Qaeda. Maybe those weapons no longer exist, but I find it hard to believe they could disappear so easily," he says.

Rashid's days of working at the top came to an abrupt end in 1998 when he was arrested with a group of other scientists and army officers on charges of plotting to remove Saddam. He was taken to a high-security jail in the centre of Baghdad, run by the Mukhabarat (secret police), where he was tortured for three weeks, suffering severe spinal injuries.

Rashid was then transferred to the Abu Ghraib jail outside Baghdad for execution. "Each morning prisoners were executed. Some were shot and some were hung. I could see the executions from my cell window. You lived in a constant state of terror because you never knew who was next."

Rashid says he escaped when a high-ranking military officer and close friend bribed the guards to swap his file with that of an executed prisoner. "On visiting day I just walked out. Everything had been arranged; I had false travel documents that got me and my family across the border to Syria," he says.

Rashid's problems did not end there. The Iraqi secret police came looking for him at Damascus University where he taught physics part time, and he fled to Melbourne on an Emirates flight. He says he left his wife and family behind because the family had money to buy only a single ticket and at that stage he was the one whose life was in immediate danger.

Rashid has told The Age he knows of five secret storage bunkers around Baghdad, Basra and Tikrit, three of which he visited regularly as a top scientist and senior employee of Iraq's now defunct Atomic Energy Commission.

One, he says, was under an island in the Tigris River near Saddam University. Another was beneath the house of one of Saddam's cousins, and reached by a tunnel with a hidden entrance 800 metres away.

He described the bunkers as being built 15 metres underground, of reinforced concrete, and multi-storeyed. "Between these layers, pipes would rise up, through the building above to provide access for ventilation.

"The lethal chemicals were stored in drums and the bunkers were air-conditioned. But there were also artillery shells and 122-millimetre rockets armed with chemicals."

He says the sites had been built using foreign construction companies, including a company from China, and that nobody was allowed to approach without authorisation and extensive ID checks by the Special Republican Guard.

Rashid says meeting Saddam was always a bizarre experience. "Suddenly his people would appear unannounced. They would take you to a location and examine you carefully: mouth, hands, eyes and ears. Then you would be taken to another place and checked again. This could happen up to three times. Finally he would come into the room."

Rashid says Saddam was moody but was always on top of what was discussed, and read all scientific reports sent to him. "Nothing ever happened unless he approved it. That included the purchase of special equipment, sending people overseas to be trained. If you told him a project would take six months to complete, he would want it in four months."

After arriving in Australia, Rashid was issued with a temporary protection visa.

Even though Rashid's wife and four children have been processed and found to be refugees by the UNHCR in Syria, they remain stranded there. Australia's immigration laws prevent TPV holders access to family reunion and they have not been issued with a visa.

Although Rashid is known to authorities in Australia, he asked that his real name not be published, to protect him and his family from Saddam loyalists still active in Iraqi communities in and outside Australia.

"It's still too dangerous for us to speak out; I don't know who to trust. There are former army officers living in Australia who were close to Saddam," he says.

This story was found at: http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/03/31/1080544556813.html


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; iraqiexiles; wmd
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It seems to me the Iraq Survey group needs to talk to this guy, if they haven't done so already, especially that island in the Tigris. We should be able to re-unite him with his family if this is for real.
1 posted on 04/01/2004 9:28:22 PM PST by neverdem
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2 posted on 04/01/2004 9:30:02 PM PST by Support Free Republic (Hi Mom! Hi Dad!)
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To: neverdem
The whole WMD issue isn't going to go away because it was real.
3 posted on 04/01/2004 9:31:42 PM PST by ChocChipCookie (The French have raised their terror level from Run to Hide.)
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To: neverdem
If this is true then the US intel has known about it for a time now. If it is true the DNC and Kerry are peeing in there pants as we speak. GWB will roll out the evidence I suspect about the time, an hour or so, after the nomination speech of Kerry during the Democrat convention. I can say yhis for sure, Kerry will be guessing right up to election day.
4 posted on 04/01/2004 9:44:46 PM PST by Final Authority
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To: Dan Boone
"This whole invasion into Iraq was ill advised, we should have stuck to the mission in Afghanistan, wiped every TaLiban from the face of the earth there and then hunted them down with surgical strikes all over the world."

Are you saying that the U.S. does not have the capacity to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan?

How have we not "stuck to the mission in Afghanistan?
6 posted on 04/01/2004 10:58:00 PM PST by JamesP
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To: JamesP
I recall reading that the key Arab cultured/speaking units were sent to Iraq and replaced in Afghanistan by those skilled in Latin America/Spanish. They are just now going back to Afghanistan.
7 posted on 04/01/2004 11:20:03 PM PST by OneTimeLurker
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To: Dan Boone
Yeah, if they'd only listen to you.
8 posted on 04/01/2004 11:20:53 PM PST by Deb (Democrats HATE America...there's no other explanation.)
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To: Deb
Hi Deb!

I guess we could overlook the fact that the months we were waiting, trying to convince people like Dan Boone -- who sounds French or at least Francophile-like -- those WMDs could have been moved almost anywhere. Besides, we acted on the best intel we had. The other option? To not act on our best intel is self-defeating. Of course, that means Dan Boone's theory is moot.

Hugs and Kisses,
9 posted on 04/01/2004 11:30:24 PM PST by Ken in Eastman (Those who ignore history are destined to vote Democrat)
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To: Deb
Hi sweetie!

Smootches...................FRegards

10 posted on 04/02/2004 12:24:48 AM PST by gonzo (Harley-Vous Francais?-------Can you ride a French motorcycle while carrying a white flag ?)
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To: OneTimeLurker
Here are the ethnicities/language of Afghanistan.
Ethnic divisions:

Pashtun 38%, Tajik 25%, Uzbek 6%, Hazara 19%, minor ethnic groups (Chahar Aimaks, Turkmen, Baloch, and others)


Languages:

Pashtu 35%, Afghan Persian (Dari) 50%, Turkic languages (primarily Uzbek and Turkmen) 11%, 30 minor languages (primarily Balochi and Pashai) 4%, much bilingualism


Why were, as you say " Arab cultured/speaking units" required?
11 posted on 04/02/2004 12:31:20 AM PST by JamesP
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To: neverdem
Easter Egg Hunt!
12 posted on 04/02/2004 1:29:08 AM PST by Enduring Freedom (Warrior Freepers Rule The Earth)
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To: Dan Boone
I think everything you wrote, right up to the last paragraph, is correct, but that still doesn't mean we won't "find" WMD or that GWB will keep Kerry and the Marxist gang guessing. Stories like the one posted will be published on occasion to lend plausibility to finding WMD.

Your last 'graph has me in a quandary. You make a comment about the need for a real conservative but you dismiss that because of his conservatism GWB had to protect the Constitution from all enemies and that was his order to move on Iraq. The fact that all nations in the UN believed as we did that Iraq had WMD and they were a destabilizing force in the ME, and threatened the USA, required action, constitutionally. Liberals really don't like a President who says what he thinks and does what he says.

I still think every time Kerry considers the issue of WMD he will be peeing his pants.
13 posted on 04/02/2004 6:12:04 AM PST by Final Authority
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To: Final Authority
The only thing that gets me about what was written was that Saddam could have reported that rather than hide it. He chose to hide it, he got his comeuppance for it.

14 posted on 04/02/2004 6:59:01 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz
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To: Dan Boone
This whole invasion into Iraq was ill advised, we should have stuck to the mission in Afghanistan, wiped every TaLiban from the face of the earth there and then hunted them down with surgical strikes all over the world.

Hogwash. Iraq was a terrorist sponsoring nation and had to be dealt with. It's the first stop in wiping the terrorists of islam off the earth.

How come you only have two posts yet have been here since 1999? I can't find anything else from or about you.

This post seems to be sleeper DU troll type stuff. Is it?

15 posted on 04/02/2004 7:56:12 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please) {become a monthly donor. You'll never miss $5/month})
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To: John O; Dan Boone
Are those Viking Kitties I see on the horizon?

;)
16 posted on 04/02/2004 8:02:40 AM PST by rickylc
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To: JamesP
Al Qaida are Arabs primarily. Also don't muslims pray in Arabic. In any event, Spanish would be of no help I am sure we can all agree.
17 posted on 04/02/2004 9:07:37 AM PST by OneTimeLurker
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Troll alert.
19 posted on 04/04/2004 8:19:29 AM PDT by DefCon
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