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We cannot return to a time without choice
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 3/30/04 | Dianne Feinstein

Posted on 03/30/2004 1:15:29 PM PST by Homer_J_Simpson

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:46:15 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Last week, the U.S. Senate passed the Unborn Victims of Violence Act, which, for the very first time, will put into federal law the concept that life begins at conception. Though I offered an alternative that would have had the same effect in criminal law without addressing this profound and deeply divisive question, anti-abortion advocates defeated the measure.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: abortion; connerslaw; fearfuldems; feinstein; proaborts
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...thereby giving legal rights to the fertilized egg...,

or, to put it another way, the human being.

1 posted on 03/30/2004 1:15:31 PM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
We can't return to a world without guns either, Mz. Feinstein, but you sure keep trying to anyway!
2 posted on 03/30/2004 1:21:34 PM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
It takes an ova and sperm (two genders) to create life. Yet with the abortionists, one gender gets to play God and decide life or death for that life all because that gender has the baby carriage inside her to nestle the created life. Something is indeed wrong with this picture.
3 posted on 03/30/2004 1:22:18 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: coloradan
I'll settle for just returning to a time without Feinstein.
4 posted on 03/30/2004 1:23:34 PM PST by Argus (If you favor surrender to terrorism, vote Democrat.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
-- promoted abstinence-only sex education for students both here and abroad, though its success at reducing the rates of pregnancy and transmission of sexually transmitted diseases has been questioned.

Abstinence works 100% everytime it's tried. What's the rate for condoms?

5 posted on 03/30/2004 1:24:17 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
The situation is snowballing. Federal laws, along with more than 350 anti- choice measures enacted by states over the past decade, are setting legal precedents that anti-abortion supporters will use to challenge Roe vs. Wade. It is entirely possible that the landmark decision could be overturned.

Thanks be to God.

6 posted on 03/30/2004 1:25:41 PM PST by pax_et_bonum (Always finish what you st)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
We cannot return to a time without choice

There never has been a time without choice. There were just different consequences for those choices.
7 posted on 03/30/2004 1:32:31 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
She (we) has the choice to participate or not in the activity that may result in pregnancy. She (we) has a choice to use or not use contraception.

Why should her (our) bad choice cost another life?
8 posted on 03/30/2004 1:35:43 PM PST by JimRed (Fight election fraud! Volunteer as a local poll watcher, challenger or district official.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Have you ever noticed that the pro-death people always use the phrase "a woman's right to choose." They never specify WHAT that are choosing. Coke vs. Pepsi? Ketchup vs. mustard?

NO!! THEY ARE CHOOSING TO MURDER THEIR BABY!!!!!!

If 'the right to choose (to kill your baby)' was such a normal and healthy thing, why does it have to be referred to with such tippy-toe phrases like "the right to choose"?
9 posted on 03/30/2004 1:36:01 PM PST by jtminton (<><)
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To: aruanan
You took the words right off my keyboard!
10 posted on 03/30/2004 1:36:28 PM PST by xrp
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
She will gladly let our freedoms be slowly eroded, yet if there is any encroachment on a womans right to an abortion, she sounds the hue and cry.

Disgusting yet typical.
11 posted on 03/30/2004 1:39:08 PM PST by stylin_geek (Koffi: 0, G.W. Bush: (I lost count))
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To: pax_et_bonum
"The situation is snowballing."

That's because more and more people are coming to the realization that abortion is terribly wrong. And its wrong under any circumstances.

Let the pro-abortion groups get up in front of the American people and defend PBA. Please.

12 posted on 03/30/2004 1:40:37 PM PST by Pietro
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To: pax_et_bonum
"The situation is snowballing."

That's because more and more people are coming to the realization that abortion is terribly wrong. And its wrong under any circumstances.

Let the pro-abortion groups get up in front of the American people and defend PBA. Please.

13 posted on 03/30/2004 1:40:45 PM PST by Pietro
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
News flash!Women had the right to choose before abortion!It was a matter of CHOOSING to drop the panties or NOT!
14 posted on 03/30/2004 1:40:59 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
We cannot return to a time without choice

We must retain the right to kill our unborn, even if we have to bear them to do it.

15 posted on 03/30/2004 1:41:24 PM PST by umgud (speaking strictly as an infidel,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Feinstein is being as is usual typically disengenuous with respect to this issue. It's really not all that important except for the fact that's also reflective of the current debate over "partial birth" abortion

Feinstein is logically inconsistent in many ways the least being that she's opposed to using elective abortion for selecting the sex of the child. Or should I say gender. I still wonder what she would think about elective abortion of a child which displayed characteristics of being a hermaphrodite. I'm sure that might run contrary to her views concerning future "trans-gender" folks.

The real elephant in the parlor though is that Roe v. Wade which granted women the "right to choose" was decided on the issue of viability of the fetus not the definition of whether a fetus was a human being (though this was either stated or inferred). Viability in the original argument also didn't extend into the third trimester of pregnancy either. I raise this point because the pro-abortionists have and continue to use the argument that if you define the fetus as a human being that somehow that's going to impede on either a women's "right to choose" or a complete roll-back of Roe v Wade. Since Roe v. Wade has been extended out to emcompass all elective abortion by these same advocates, I really don't see that they've anything much to worry about!

16 posted on 03/30/2004 1:43:07 PM PST by Coeur de Lion
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Sure we can. Germany did in 1945. At least the kind of "choice" that both Nazi exterminationists and Feminazis have in mind: killing the politically hated.
17 posted on 03/30/2004 1:49:54 PM PST by Ronly Bonly Jones (killing innocent people is not a hobby that anyone should take up)
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To: aruanan
We cannot return to a time without choice

No, no, I agree. We MUST have choice, unfettered choice. I mean, look what happened when principle triumphed over choice in the matter of, say, slavery. I liked them good old days when states had the right to choose to say that one class of beings, apparently human, was not really human at all and therefore not entitled to civil rights.

Works for me ...

The other day I saw my new favorite bumper sticker, probably not at all news to you all. It said,"Save the baby humans!"

18 posted on 03/30/2004 1:54:23 PM PST by Mad Dawg (S&W 686P, Sig - P226, P239, Beretta 92FS & 8357,Taurus snubbie, Marlin carbine in .357 magnum.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
This is just pure evil.

A_R

19 posted on 03/30/2004 1:59:44 PM PST by arkady_renko
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To: pax_et_bonum
Bump.
20 posted on 03/30/2004 2:00:31 PM PST by onedoug
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