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To: MindBender26
I'm glad you can admit you support your own cause, but that is exactly what you have been condemning other supporters for doing.

You have belittled Terri supporters, saying they only want camera time, that their vigils have been ineffective when they have not been ineffective. You have even gone so far to belittle a huge group of Terri supporters (pretty much all of them) by saying that their efforts have been ineffective.

I'm sure you feel at least somewhat offended when someone calls you a spy or a mole (if you don't, you lack human compassion). Now when you say things to other Terri supporters, that are actually going out and doing footwork, you are belittling them and don't for a minute think you are not.

Calling a true Terri supporter a spy/mole or any other belittling remark in a public forum hinders everyone's efforts. It makes those who support Terri look like squabbling children. It is this exact behavior that you have exhibited in this forum that has caused us to lose supporters or have supporters crawl into a corner and remain silent. I was inadvertently a victim of someone calling a group which I belonged to a bunch of moles, and it virtually closed down the group which has scores of important information filed for easy access to other's. I know first hand how berating other's can destroy the fight for Terri.

Don't sit here and tell me you have not belittled and berated other supporters, that very behavior is what has made you look so bad. You have gone after FV many times and even outright accused that one person of causing a downfall in support. I have seen FV in other groups and happen to know that (s)he had never once stumbled off the track of supporting Terri. FV is involved in another group that I am in and has been fairly quiet, so I don't for a minute think this person is trying to get attention as you claim. You have categorized supporters, that is another no no. I suggest you go back and read your posts to see just how you are coming across, it is not good.

From the opinions you give, it seems to me that you believe the disabled individual that is confined to her/his home and can do nothing more then write letters or make phone calls is unimportant. Let me tell you, we are working to save the life of a disabled woman and for that reason, all our disabled supporters are extremely supportive. What about the people that live outside of Florida, do you think they are not important?

If you really want to spread the word, you need to step outside of the INTERNET and reach those folks that do not have the INTERNET. If you really want to help in the cause, you need to first apologize to those supporters you have offended and then try to pick up from them and ask them to help you, get them on your bandwagon. Putting them down is certainly not going to help you in your task at all. When you put one person down, not only does everyone reading the forum see it, each of those people spread the word to other people that they know and it makes your task all that much harder. You need to try a different tactic, how about saying nothing about those supporters you may not like and may not approve of their way of supporting Terri? Instead, how about saying something like, "I have another idea that might be succesful, anyone who wants to join me please let me know". How about doing what you just did in this letter in response to me...rather then state everything that you feel is being done wrong, state that "we should try this", it would be a much better approach.
754 posted on 04/06/2004 11:21:00 AM PDT by Angleena (http://s3.invisionfree.com/terrisfriends/index.php)
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To: Angleena
By the date of your registration, I think I understand where you are coming from. Evidently, you came aboard FR specifically for Terri.

When some emotional/sensational issue arises, we get new members, whose only interest is in that one matter.

I only wish people worked as hard to change bad laws as they do to undermine a constitutional statute. Like it or not, that's what you are fighting. Not Michael. It's the law of Florida.

So far, it is protected by the U.S. Constitution. Start messin' with that, and you'll see some old-timers let out some loud screams.

MindBender26 has every right to voice his/her opinion. Part of the advice, IMHO, was plain common sense.

755 posted on 04/06/2004 3:32:49 PM PDT by lakey
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To: Angleena; floriduh voter
Thank you for your posts! If Michael Schiavo WERE to ever
send a mole or lakey here to demoralize freepers he would
very likely single out FV as one of the most important
freepers to attack and discredit.

Hey wait, the mind-messer even pointed his three basics of PR, which were something like...
1) demoralize your opponents and hope they lose interest,
[well yea, he DID treat us like opponents]

2) win over the undecided,
[not applicable here because that would be fishing in
the wrong pond]

3) encourage your supporters
[and he certainly did NOT do that]

Combining those findings with his support last year for Felos, and I'd say the mind-messer was not sincere. And
very few newcomers arrive here with such strong opinions
like that either, so that's another tip-off.

best wishes to you, the Schindlers, Terri, and all her supporters!
758 posted on 04/06/2004 9:44:47 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (until Terri's org agrees that MindBender26 is one of 'us' please try to avoid him)
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