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GAS PRISES!

Posted on 03/28/2004 6:55:23 PM PST by danamco

Help us and join the crowd to force the big oil companies to lower the gas prices!!


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To: danamco
It won't matter. We're going off the economic cliff in 3-13 years no matter what.
101 posted on 03/28/2004 8:33:40 PM PST by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: Archangelsk
the year end dividend check that all residents receive

Not all. And it's going to be phased out.

102 posted on 03/28/2004 8:37:03 PM PST by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: danamco
Let's see...I don't buy gas from either Exxon or Mobil. I buy fron Pilot and Flying J. Who supplies them??

Now, if I fore-go driving my big handyman van (Ford E350) and go around without tools in our smaller car, I will save gas and have NO income.

These fanciful ideas when thought out, don't yield much in the way of pressure on big oil.

BTW, next time you see the OPEC logo, notice how FAT the letters look.

Freudian slip??

103 posted on 03/28/2004 8:42:20 PM PST by FixitGuy
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To: RBroadfoot
Says snopes.com - Oil companies can manipulate their prices somewhat by controlling how much gasoline they produce and where they sell it, but they can't alter the basics of supply and demand: prices go up when people buy more of a good, and they go down when people buy less of a good. The "gas out" schemes that propose simply shunning one or two specific brands of gasoline won't work, however, because it's based on the misconception that an oil company's only outlet for gasoline is its own branded service stations. That isn't the case -- gasoline is a fungible commodity, so if one oil company's product isn't being bought up in one particular market or outlet, it will simply sell its output to other companies:

Then snopes.com says - The only practical way of reducing gasoline prices is through the straightforward means of buying less gasoline, not through a simple and painless scheme of just shifting where we buy it. The inconvenience of driving less is a hardship too many people apparently aren't willing to endure, however.

Snopes is not consistent. Their advice to buy less gasoline in order to reduce gasoline prices violates the law of supply & demand that they cited earlier in their response.

I disagree with snopes anyway. If freeping consumers avoid buying Mobil for a month, all of us during the same month, all those little expressy, quicky, Mobil stations are going to be in a world of hurt, and can be compelled to do something about their gasoline pricing. If we then target Exxon, Texaco and the other biggies in successive months something will have to give at each company, or we hit them with another boycott.

104 posted on 03/28/2004 8:43:53 PM PST by Lester Moore
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To: danamco

105 posted on 03/28/2004 8:46:15 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Expect long tag lines.)
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To: raloxk
BTW it isnt the oil companies this time it is OPEC and Environmentalism.

Yep, but don't forget to factor in increasing demand from places like China.

106 posted on 03/28/2004 8:52:21 PM PST by templar
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To: Monty22
I support Bush, but I believe the big oil companies are doing this, (with or without) Bush's blessing, knowing it will slow the economy. Then, about September, after massive profits have been made, prices will drop sharply, sending the economy into overdrive and giving Bush bragging rights for bringing down gas prices. Check Mate.
107 posted on 03/28/2004 8:52:42 PM PST by Boiling point (Too well informed to be a democrat)
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To: NovemberCharlie
was a semi-arcane reference to this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1104489/posts
108 posted on 03/28/2004 8:53:57 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Texasforever
"Gas Prises is series and hugh."

Too funny!! What's that thing about "All your bases?"

109 posted on 03/28/2004 8:55:10 PM PST by davisfh
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To: danamco
What are prises?
110 posted on 03/28/2004 8:57:27 PM PST by KingNo155
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To: Boiling point
Then, about September, after massive profits have been made, prices will drop sharply, sending the economy into overdrive and giving Bush bragging rights for bringing down gas prices.

The economy doesn't respond that fast. And oil is an international commodity, it has to come down everywhere for it to come down anywhere (with a few basically inconsequential exceptions); it flows to where the money is being spent on it.

111 posted on 03/28/2004 9:03:51 PM PST by templar
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To: Aggie Mama
"Big Oil" consists of some of the hardest working people that you will ever meet......

Ms... Thank you for lecturing me and reminding me of my hard work on board tanker vessels for about 25 years, the last 13 before retirement on vessels owned by Exxon's filiate: ESSO! But according to the posters here, I don't know anything about this business!

It's really funny to see - here -, that when boycott of the Heinz companies was proposed, nearly "everybody" were sure on board that vessel!! Right?
112 posted on 03/28/2004 9:21:35 PM PST by danamco
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To: danamco
,,,It's really funny to see - here -, that when boycott of the Heinz companies was proposed, nearly "everybody" were sure on board that vessel!! Right?

That's because of Kerry Ketchup boy!!
113 posted on 03/28/2004 9:24:39 PM PST by cyborg (troll on a stick)
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To: NovemberCharlie
There are a lot of folks who can't understand how we came to have an oil shortage here in America.

Well, there's a very simple answer. Nobody bothered to check the oil.
We just didn't know we were getting low. The reason for that is purely geographical.

All our oil is in Alaska, Texas, California, and Oklahoma.

But all our dipsticks are in Washington, DC.
114 posted on 03/28/2004 9:25:59 PM PST by B4Ranch (Most Of Us Are Wasting Rights Other Men Fought and Died For!)
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To: danamco
Thank Dick Nixon for the EPA, Clean Air Act, etc. There is a reason that no new refinery has been built in the US for over twenty years and we no longer are able to refine our own gasoline. Crude is only part of the problem.
115 posted on 03/28/2004 9:58:16 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: danamco
we need to FORCE government to lower gas prices.

MTBE, environmental regulations, tax surcharges, not allowing new refineries to be built, not allowing new oil wells to be dug

THAT is causing high gas prices.

116 posted on 03/28/2004 10:05:23 PM PST by GeronL (www.armorforcongress.com..... put a FReeper in Congress)
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To: Texasforever
MØØSE PRIZES!

First prize:

CHEESE!

117 posted on 03/28/2004 10:08:51 PM PST by B Knotts (Salve!)
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To: danamco
You still don't seem to know anything about the business. Anyone who would post such garbage has a very myopic view of the oil business. Even cheap oil from the middle east is not cheap considering the requirements to get it out of the ground (gosps, wips, gips, wells, wellheads, flowlines, trunklines, transmission lines) and to terminals such as Ras Tanura (still in crude form) for tankers to take 8000 miles plus to further processing.

From their if you were such an enlightened genius, you would realize that what ever facility you offloaded to (involving further offshore to on shore pipeline facilities, storage facilities, coastal refineries and on and on) would add significantly to the cost.

Assuming there was no EPA blend requirements to drive-up regional costs further (for the children) a braniac such as yourself would realize that further transportation costs such as pipelines would be required to get it to the local terminal that in all likelihood involved 6 to 20 storage tanks.

Now, someone with all your years of experience would surely know that from the terminal, trucks distribute the fuels to the different service facilities where braniacs such as yourself stick the pump handle into your vehicle, scratch yourself and then complain about how big oil is ripping you off.

I'm sure someone like you of above average intelligence would realize (while they were scratching themselves) that the oil transport business is extremely complex and expensive business involving numerous capital and maintenance costs. And I am sure someone of your infinite experience in tanker transport would know about the different seasonal blending and transport requirements.

Once someone of such extensive wisdom (such as yourself) has finished pumping their gas and is in a hurry to get to their local national socialist workers party meeting you realize that you have been a total putz. You ponder a moment further whether you should have taken the red or the blue pill.

For fellow energy workers, I have tried to keep this simple so as not to totally confound our oh so wise DU posters.
118 posted on 03/28/2004 10:10:20 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberalism is a Hate Crime)
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To: PA Engineer
Nice work. ;-D

I agree, DU poster.
119 posted on 03/28/2004 10:49:40 PM PST by Judith Anne (Is life a paradox? Well, yes and no...)
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To: Charles Henrickson
That image proves once again that often, a picture is worth a thousand words...
120 posted on 03/28/2004 10:53:51 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Democrats are the real asses of evil.)
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