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Christian alternative to Girl Scouts thriving
Houston Chronicle ^ | Angela Brown

Posted on 03/28/2004 5:52:15 PM PST by Lizavetta

Group draws parents upset with troops' policies

CRAWFORD -- Donna Coody disbanded her 7-year-old daughter's Brownie troop and took her 9-year-old daughter out of another Girl Scout troop because she was upset over the organization's endorsement of two Planned Parenthood sex education seminars.

But Coody didn't want her daughters and their friends to miss out on camping trips, educational activities and service projects. So she decided in March to start a troop affiliated with the Christian-based American Heritage Girls.

"I felt like the Girl Scouts' morals were definitely lacking, and the girls needed another choice," Coody said.

American Heritage Girls was founded in 1995 by a Cincinnati-area woman and her friends who were unhappy that the Girl Scouts accepted lesbians as troop leaders, banned prayer at meetings and allowed girls to substitute the word "God" in the oath.

What started with 100 girls in Ohio has turned into a nonprofit group with 2,800 members in 22 states -- with a 40 percent enrollment boost since the fall, founder Patti Garibay said.

Troops must be chartered by a church or private school with the same basic religious beliefs as American Heritage Girls. Leaders must sign a statement of faith, but girls don't have to be religious to join. The organization receives no government money and operates by donations, fund raising, membership dues and merchandise sales.

Uniforms are red, white and blue, and girls do activities or service projects to earn badges. Each meeting starts with girls praying, pledging allegiance to the American and organization's flags, then saying the oath while holding up four fingers: symbolizing God, family, community and country.

"It's people who really want a wholesome program for their daughters," Garibay said. "They're not religious fanatics."

Officials with the New York-based Girl Scouts say their numbers are up, too. About 2.9 million girls nationwide are in Girl Scouts of the USA, which was founded in 1912 and chartered by Congress in 1950.

The organization has not been deluged with complaints or had a mass exodus, spokeswoman Ellen Christie said. But if a parent takes a child out of Girl Scouts, the organization's headquarters may not find out about it or know why, she said.

"We are not a Judeo-Christian or religious organization at all. We never have been," Christie said. "We've always been a spiritually based movement."

In 1993, in an effort to be more inclusive to girls of all faiths, the Girl Scouts decided to allow youngsters to say "Allah" or another word instead of God in the oath: "On my honor, I will try to serve God and my country, to help people at all times and to live by the Girl Scout law."

The Girl Scouts also does not have "a discrimination policy," meaning the organization is open to all, including gay Scout leaders and girls.

However, the organization takes no position on sex education or abortion, Christie said.

Those polarizing topics are what led to a Girl Scout cookie boycott in the Waco area last month after some parents found out that the Bluebonnet Council of Girl Scouts, which oversees troops in Crawford and 13 other counties, endorsed two Planned Parenthood sex education programs.

Pro-Life Waco, a group that opposes abortions, aired radio ads blasting what it called the Girl Scouts' "cozy relationship" with Planned Parenthood and urged people not to buy cookies.

Coody and some other mothers in Crawford, about 20 miles west of Waco, joined the boycott. They also were upset that the Bluebonnet Council gave the executive director of Planned Parenthood of Central Texas a "woman of distinction" award last year.

The Bluebonnet Council responded by removing its logo from materials related to sex education programs sponsored by Planned Parenthood, a national organization that provides educational and health services, including abortions. Council officials said they never gave money to the organization for anything, including the workshops.

Still, some mothers said they felt better about taking their daughters out of Girl Scouts.

"The more I know about the Girl Scouts, the happier I am not to be in it," said Lisa Aguilar, who pulled her daughter from a Crawford troop last month.

Jeanne Wurm, an American Heritage Girls troop leader in Pasadena, Calif., said she removed her three daughters from Girl Scouts two years ago over fund raising, and liked the religious foundation of the other group.

Girl Scout troops keep only about 10 percent of annual cookie sale proceeds, but American Heritage Girls groups keep half the profits from selling pies, candy bars or money made in other fund-raisers.

Garibay, a mother of three daughters, said the Girl Scouts have changed since she was a youngster, when her troop started each meeting with prayer.

She said she disagreed with the Girl Scouts over numerous issues, including this passage from a 1993 Brownie handbook: "There is no `right' way to live, look, talk, dress, eat or act."

"How can they develop character when there is no right or wrong and when you're not allowed to talk about it?" Garibay said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: americanheritage; girls; girlscouts

1 posted on 03/28/2004 5:52:16 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: Lizavetta
http://www.ahgonline.org/
2 posted on 03/28/2004 6:01:01 PM PST by NativeNewYorker (Don't blame me. I voted for Sharpton.)
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To: Lizavetta
The Girl Scouts are going to go the way of the Episcopalian Church...
3 posted on 03/28/2004 6:02:18 PM PST by 2banana
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To: Lizavetta
I'm sure the Amerikan Snivel Liberties Union will find a reason to sue them over some obscure statute somewhere. They just can't stomach anyone that might establish a moral baseline as a prerequisite for membership - Heaven forbid there might be an lesbian pedophile den mother out there with no young minds to corrupt.
4 posted on 03/28/2004 6:03:08 PM PST by Viking2002
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To: Lizavetta
Having removed a daughter from the Bluebonnet area girl scouts over 10 years ago I can heartily support this new effort. My prayers will be with Mrs Coody. There is more wrong with the Waco girl scout group than is mentioned in this article.
5 posted on 03/28/2004 6:09:23 PM PST by Wneighbor (Well the view looks better from ahead than it looks behind)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Can't help but admire women like Donna Coody.
You Texicans* should be proud!

* I use that in the most respectful way. Ever since I heard Rooster Cogburn say it I've always been partial to the term!

6 posted on 03/28/2004 6:44:08 PM PST by jla
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To: Lizavetta
>>"We are not a Judeo-Christian or religious organization at all. We never have been," Christie said. "We've always been a spiritually based movement."

I didn't realize scouting was a "movement".
7 posted on 03/28/2004 6:54:39 PM PST by modhom
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To: Wneighbor
"There is more wrong with the Waco girl scout group than is mentioned in this article."

What will it take to enduce you to spill the beans?

I was a girl scout and it pains me over the years to see the degeneration of this formerly upstanding organization. I am so supportive of the boy scouts for fending off the leftists and the gays.

With my own daughter there was never an occasion to join the scouts, if she were younger I'd certainly be checking out this new group. I'm sure their ranks will swell in coming years.

The leftist don't make much of a secret of how they are after the children, do they?

8 posted on 03/28/2004 7:51:10 PM PST by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: Lizavetta
American Heritage Girls Bump
9 posted on 03/28/2004 8:23:11 PM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: jla; Dog Gone; Flyer; Eaker; deport; PetroniDE
Yeah, really good. Thanks for the ping.

An alternative to the Girl Scouts. I hadn't heard of American Heritage Girls before ...


10 posted on 03/29/2004 5:48:48 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (The Democrats say they believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
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Bump
11 posted on 03/29/2004 6:23:39 AM PST by thackney (Life is Fragile, Handle with Prayer)
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To: Vic3O3
Here we go! We'll have to check this out when our two are ready.

Semper Fi
12 posted on 03/29/2004 7:01:26 AM PST by dd5339 (Happiness is a full VM-II and a DEAD AND BURIED AWB!)
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To: 2banana

ALL:

If you support the traditonal values of Scouting, and if you believe Scouting can be a valuable ministry to Episcopal youth, please visit the Episcopal Scouters Discussion Forum:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/episcopal_scouters/

This group is for Episcopalian Scouts and Scouters, but non-Episcopalian Scouts and Scouters are also welcome, especially those in parish-sponsored units. "Continuing Anglicans", "Orthodox Anglicans", Campfire, Girl Scouts and 4-H members are also welcome. All are welcome to discuss: Duty to God, Scouting in the Church, the religious emblems program, camp chaplaincy, etc.

I'm the moderator -- we'd love to have you join us, and please spread the word about Episcopal Scouting!

Fred Goodwin
Diocese of West Texas
Alamo Area Council
fgoodwin@sbcglobal.net


13 posted on 06/30/2004 6:22:24 PM PDT by fgoodwin (Episcopal Scouter)
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To: Lizavetta

bump


14 posted on 06/30/2004 6:25:02 PM PDT by Lady Eileen
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To: Lizavetta

And to think the left believes organizations like this should be illegal.


15 posted on 06/30/2004 6:27:18 PM PDT by Guillermo (France Sucks)
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