The documents center on FBI surveillance of Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW), which Kerry represented as national spokesman. In April 1971, the decorated veteran testified in televised hearings before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and led a large protest of veterans in the capital.
Nicosia estimated that 20 percent of his documents are missing.
"It's heartbreaking, after 11 years trying to get them," he said.
I'll just bet.
"I hadn't gotten a chance to review them all. I am sure there were some things about John Kerry that weren't known," Nicosia said. "These files would also cast a bad light on the ... Republican Party. This surveillance happened under the Nixon White House and Nixon FBI."
Get ready, this will be the spin. "Just like Watergate."
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To: Sabertooth
Why do they hand out original documents under the Freedom of Information Act? I would think they would hand out copies.
To: Sabertooth
Her Royal Highness:"Break in and get those FBI files on Kerry.
Nobody but nobody is to have FBI files except us. Then use our stolen FBI files to blame someone else.""
3 posted on
03/28/2004 5:57:49 AM PST by
Diogenesis
(If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
To: Sabertooth
"I hadn't gotten a chance to review them all. I am sure there were some things about John Kerry that weren't known," Nicosia said. "These files would also cast a bad light on the ... Republican Party. This surveillance happened under the Nixon White House and Nixon FBI."
Let's see, who has more to fear from the FBI files on John Kerry's activities with the Vietnam Veterans Against the war (VVAW), Kerry or the Republicans?
Pro-Kerry Historian: Kerry Lies About Anti-war Activities
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Posted by areafiftyone On 03/18/2004 6:35:35 AM PST with 5 comments
Newsmax ^ | 3/18/04 A Vietnam War historian and supporter of Democrat presidential candidate John Kerry has told CNSNews.com that Kerry is lying about key events related to his anti-war activities in 1971. Kerry said he hasn't spoken to former anti-war associate Al Hubbard since the two men appeared side by side on national television in April 1971, but according to author Gerald Nicosia, that assertion is wrong. So is Kerry's insistence that he did not attend a November 1971 meeting of Vietnam Veterans Against the War, at which group members discussed the possibility of assassinating U.S. senators who were still supporting the war...
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Kerry Lying About Anti-War Past, Supporter Alleges
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Posted by kattracks On 03/18/2004 2:58:03 AM PST with 114 comments
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 3/18/04 | Marc Morano (CNSNews.com) - A Vietnam War historian and supporter of Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry has told CNSNews.com that Kerry is lying about key events related to his anti-war activities in 1971. Kerry said he hasn't spoken to former anti-war associate Al Hubbard since the two men appeared side by side on national television in April 1971, but according to author Gerald Nicosia, that assertion is wrong. So is Kerry's insistence that he did not attend a November 1971 meeting of Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW), at which group members discussed the possibility of assassinating U.S. senators who were still...
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KERRY RETREATS FROM HIS DENIAL ON VIETNAM MEET - Evidence Puts Him At Kansas Parley
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Posted by kennedy On 03/19/2004 9:07:07 AM PST with 422 comments
New York Sun ^ | Mar 19, 2004 | JOSH GERSTEIN MILL VALLEY, Calif. Senator Kerry of Massachusetts yesterday retreated from his earlier steadfast denials that he attended a meeting of Vietnam Veterans Against the War at which a plan to assassinate U.S. Senators was debated. The reversal came as new evidence, including reports from FBI informants, emerged that contradicted Mr. Kerrys previous statements about the gathering, which was held in Kansas City, Mo. in November 1971. John Kerry had no personal recollection of this meeting 33 years ago, a Kerry campaign spokesman, David Wade, said in a statement e-mailed last night from Idaho, where Mr. Kerry is on vacation....
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Kerry hedges on 1971 KC meeting [for assassination plot]
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Posted by nwrep On 03/19/2004 8:38:34 PM PST with 72 comments
Knight Ridder ^ | March 19, 2004 | SCOTT CANON KANSAS CITY - (KRT) - Confronted with 32-year-old FBI records, Sen. John Kerry's campaign all but conceded he attended a 1971 Kansas City meeting where a fellow anti-war veteran called for political assassinations. Those active in Vietnam Veterans Against the War at the time stress that the suggestion for such a violent approach was angrily rejected. They say their memories do not include Kerry taking part in the radical discussion. A statement Thursday by Kerry's camp said the Massachusetts Democrat did not recall the meeting, although FBI surveillance material and the group's archives clearly show that Kerry resigned from his...
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CNN: Documents reveal FBI surveillance of Kerry in early 1970s
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Posted by Oldeconomybuyer On 03/23/2004 5:18:04 AM PST with 52 comments
CNN ^ | 3-23-04 | From Phil Hirschkorn NEW YORK (CNN) -- John Kerry's combat experience in Vietnam is central to his bid to become the next commander-in-chief, but Kerry's outspoken opposition to that war drew the personal attention of the president of the United States and FBI agents 33 years ago, documents reviewed by CNN reveal. After Kerry became the national spokesman of Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) in 1971, he came under continued surveillance by the FBI, which filed thousands of pages of reports on the VVAW and Kerry himself. It was Kerry, the articulate Yale graduate and Navy lieutenant with three Purple Hearts for...
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The VVAW Assassination Discussion - "A lot of people were convinced that this was the way to do it."
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Posted by Hon On 03/24/2004 7:43:30 PM PST with 58 comments
March 25, 2004 | Compiled Sometime during a national meeting of the Vietnam Veterans Against The War (VVAW) held November 12-14, 1971 there was an intense "discussion" and vote on a plan offered by Scott Camil to assassinate top Congressional leaders who had voted to continue funding the war in Vietnam. There has been much discussion here and some in the media of this topic. The details are getting confused, and few people have seen any of the original source material. I first came upon the subject in early February when I was looking for information about Kerry in "Winter Soldiers," by Richard Staciewicz. The...
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FBI Papers on Kerry Stolen from Author
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Posted by rogueleader On 03/28/2004 12:00:14 AM PST with 7 comments
KCBS-740 AM ^ | Mar 27, 2004 | Sue McGuire (KCBS)--A North Bay man who had uncovered evidence the FBI (news - web sites) tailed presidential candidate John Kerry (news - web sites) for months in 1971 says some of the files were stolen this week. Author Gerald Nicosia told police Friday that three of fourteen boxes of once secret FBI files he obtained through the Freedom of Information Act were taken from his Corte Madera home some time Thursday. He says investigators do not have much hope in finding the missing files. "They said it would be almost impossible to try to track fingerprints because we did have CNN...
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FBI Papers on Kerry Stolen from Marin County Author
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Posted by NYC Republican On 03/27/2004 6:44:41 PM PST with 16 comments
KPIX/KCBS/Yahoo News ^ | 3/26/04 | Sue McGuire North Bay man who had uncovered evidence the FBI (news - web sites) tailed presidential candidate John Kerry (news - web sites) for months in 1971 says some of the files were stolen this week. Author Gerald Nicosia told police Friday that three of fourteen boxes of once secret FBI files he obtained through the Freedom of Information Act were taken from his Corte Madera home some time Thursday. He says investigators do not have much hope in finding the missing files. "They said it would be almost impossible to try to track fingerprints because we did have CNN people...
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Author Reports Theft of Some of Kerry's FBI Files (New Info - New Spin)
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Posted by Sabertooth On 03/27/2004 8:47:20 AM PST with 73 comments
L.A. Times ^ | March 27th, 2004 | John Gilonna Nicosia said he suspected that the thieves were specifically in pursuit of the files because a camera and other expensive items in the home were left untouched. He added that he did not know exactly what material was taken because it was not cataloged or marked. Three of 14 boxes of files that had been stacked in his kitchen are missing. He said he was moving the remaining documents to a secure location Friday afternoon. Nicosia has not yet looked at all the files. Last week he allowed The Times to photocopy 50 pages concerning the FBI's monitoring of Kerry...
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5 posted on
03/28/2004 6:10:51 AM PST by
Sabertooth
(< /Kerry>)
To: Hon; Victoria Delsoul; doug from upland; OXENinFLA; Torie; VadeRetro; Hillary's Lovely Legs; ...
FYI
(Let me know if you want on or off my Kerry/VVAW pinglist.)
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6 posted on
03/28/2004 6:13:48 AM PST by
Sabertooth
(< /Kerry>)
To: Sabertooth; PhiKapMom
My wife and I wondered when the Ghost and so called sins of Nixon would be dragged out by the rats.
We will see rerun after rerun of any movie that dealt with Watergate and of course the movie Nixon which has been around again for about two weeks.
Phi Kap Mom and I have discussed this trot out the Ghosts and so called sins of Nixon for at least 3 years.
Everytime the rats get into trouble, they roll their icon of hate out to detract from the latest news of their vile reality.
9 posted on
03/28/2004 6:23:11 AM PST by
Grampa Dave
(America can't afford a 9/10 John F'onda Kerry after 9/11.)
To: Sabertooth
How convenient.
10 posted on
03/28/2004 6:32:59 AM PST by
sweetliberty
("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.")
To: Sabertooth
If he got all this stuff through FOIA, why would anybody steal it? After all, if you can get it once, you can get it twice.
Does this mean that John Kerry's military record will soon be available for public review?
To: Sabertooth
"I hadn't gotten a chance to review them all. I am sure there were some things about John Kerry that weren't known," Nicosia said. "These files would also cast a bad light on the ... Republican Party. This surveillance happened under the Nixon White House and Nixon FBI."In actual fact the FBI was doing its job. The ethnically confused "war hero" was hanging out with known communists. He had traveled to Pris to meet with Ho's representatives. The FBI was merely watching someone acting in a traitorous manner. Let's not forget that plans had been made to assassinate senators.
To: Sabertooth
I notice CNN isn't linking Kerry with any assassination discussions. Did Nicosia fail to mention it?
To: Sabertooth
And some freepers correctly surmised that would be the spin.
How lame can you get? Though I know there will be a contingent that will buy it.
So Nicosia has told the story thus: He goes from seeing doors ajar on Thursday and doesn't really think much of it. Then Friday as he's "coincidentally" moving the boxes to a "secure location", THEN he notices "boxes missing", plus he tells another reporter (maybe all, who knows with their styles if they report all they hear) that some of the remaining 11 boxes also were rifled through.
He goes on to think maybe a thrill seeker wanting a piece of history like the Berlin Wall (for pete's sake) may have been the culprit, and Nicosia doesn't seem the least alarmed that someone's been skulking around his house while he was out. Oh, and he says oh, darn, these are lost forever.
Then it comes: And this could hurt *Republicans*. Yeah, right. Your mistake was not have your mythological Republicans steal all 14 boxes as they just happened to know which boxes to take? I don't think so and I don't think a rational person will think so either.
15 posted on
03/28/2004 6:46:35 AM PST by
cyncooper
("The 'War on Terror ' is not a figure of speech")
To: Sabertooth
Oh, and I forgot to add: It's time to spread the word far and wide about Kerry's long ago campaign being involved in a Watergate style break-in.
16 posted on
03/28/2004 6:48:13 AM PST by
cyncooper
("The 'War on Terror ' is not a figure of speech")
To: Sabertooth
KERRYGATE!
23 posted on
03/28/2004 7:26:54 AM PST by
Publius6961
(50.3% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks (subject to a final count).)
To: Sabertooth
Dems are indeed trying to turn this into a "watergate". Nicosia should have contacted Hillary's Livingstone -- he'd probably have gotten those files to Nicosia even sooner! ;>
The Dems are notorious for their PASSION in pursuit of files, whether through legal or illegal means.
And anyone who thinks Bush Admin doesn't or hasn't already done major searches of their own on Kerry, is "out there".
I do commisserate with Nicosia, nonetheless. I hate theft. And whatever purposes he'd intended for the data, it's a shame. Nicosia had already informed team Kerry that he had these files. Pre-theft.
What this tells me? Dems are frightened that the 9-11 commission didn't *quite* accomplish their smear campaign sufficiently.
27 posted on
03/28/2004 8:08:00 AM PST by
Alia
(California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
To: Sabertooth
I wouldn't be surprised if the theft could have come from some vet who witnessed something truly awful about John Kerry during Vietnam/war days. Political motive? How about righteous rage and fury.
29 posted on
03/28/2004 8:09:59 AM PST by
Alia
(California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
To: Sabertooth
(donning tinfoil hat) What do we know, really, about Nicosia? Do we know if these items were actually stolen, or might he have gotten rid of them himself to avoid exposing some nastiness about Kerry? (removing tinfoil hat, placing it on nearby shelf...)
32 posted on
03/28/2004 8:20:51 AM PST by
MizSterious
(First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
To: Sabertooth
They had to be copies. Who in their right mind would hand out originals. Just look at how many books a library loses each year. Besides, there are many requests for the same information/documents. They have to make copies to keep up with the demand. If the originals are missing its because of kerry/clinton.
39 posted on
03/28/2004 9:44:22 AM PST by
ampat
(to)
To: Sabertooth
41 posted on
03/28/2004 9:50:24 AM PST by
Fiddlstix
(This Space Available for Rent or Lease by the Day, Week, or Month. Reasonable Rates. Inquire within.)
To: Sabertooth
"These files would also cast a bad light on the ... Republican Party. This surveillance happened under the Nixon White House and Nixon FBI." Nixon was a "Republican"? Could have fooled me.
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