Lee Kuan Yew gives warning to Islamic moderates

AFP / Taipei Times ^ | 3/28/04 | Staff

[tubavil]

Lee Kuan Yew gives warning to Islamic moderates

AFP , Singapore Sunday, Mar 28, 2004,Page 4

Moderate Muslims must take a stand against religious extremists, Singapore Senior Minister Lee Kuan Yew said, warning that failure to do so would lead to Islam being "hijacked."

In an interview with the BBC's East Asia Today program Friday night, Lee said the silence of moderates over deadly bomb attacks such as the ones in Bali and Madrid made it appear that only the US and its allies were fighting extremists.

Lee said "the crux of the battle, really, is between moderate and extreme Muslims."

However, moderate Muslims were "keeping out of sight" at the moment, he said.

"But if Madrid, 9/11, Bali and so on keep going on and the moderates in the Muslim world keep silent, either condone or duck the issue, then there is a danger that the West may begin to feel, that really, there are no champions to counter these terrorists," Lee said.

"That would become a very dangerous problem," he said in the interview.

"I am saying that moderates in the Muslim world, by not being able to take a stand and take the lead and start the argument with the extremists in the mosques, in the madrasah [religious schools], they are ducking the issue and allowing the extremists to hijack not just Islam but the whole of the Muslim community."

The former premier said there was a danger the war on terror would widen the differences between Islam and the West, but this could be prevented if the moderates made their stand clear.

"Let's take 9/11 or Madrid," he said, referring to the September 11, 2001 airborne attacks in the US and the March 11 bombing in the Spanish capital that killed 190.

"If nobody except Europeans and Americans and those who are already committed condemn this -- I mean if all Muslim countries stay silent or Muslim groups stay silent -- then there is the danger that the Europeans and Americans may come to the conclusion, `Look, there's really nobody on the other side that's standing up against this evil.'"

[New Horizon]

However, moderate Muslims were "keeping out of sight" at the moment, he said.

We seem to have the same problem.

[Brian Allen]

<< So... is there such a thing as a moderate muslim?? >>

Yes.

Radical islam is The Beast.

'Moderate islam' [Comprised, of course, of 'moderate muslims'] is its Trojan Horse.

Harry Lee is just letting all of islam know that it had better get of its collectively-gutless arse and clear away its psychopathologically-hesperophobic, death-and-destruction-worshipping insane murderers or the Civilized World -- as represented by its FRontline Nations -- will forget that it is only Absolutely Ruthless in its own defense and will warp up to bloody bloodthirsty.

In which case all of islam can tuck its collectively-craven head between its serial-shirt-lifters' legs and kiss its pathologically-turd-burgled collective arse goodbye!

Yellah.

Shalom! Shalom! -- Brian

bumpPING

[New Horizon]

...emulate the life of Muhammad which happens to be that of a homicidal maniac.

You forgot to mention the pedophile part.

[The_Media_never_lie]

I feel sorry for the moderate Muslims, both of them.

[BillM]

Apparently it is you who need sharpening. Lee Kwan Yew is the father of Singapore. It rose from the ashes to the greatest free city state in the world. His dream and model have worked spectacularly in a very tough reion of the world. Singapore is sandwiched between Malaia and Indonesia, the most populous muslim state in the world.
He is not muslim

[nuconvert]

So, do you agree with Lee Kuan Yew?
If you don't think there are any moderate muslims, whom do you think he was speaking to and why do you think he bothered to say this?

[nuconvert]

"FR muslim terror apologists"

That's quite an acusation.
I don't know of any here. If you do, I'd like to know who they are.

[gg188]

Newsflash:

Grand Dragon gives warning to Klan moderates.

Skinheads give warning to Nazi moderates.

[gg188]

warning that failure to do so would lead to Islam being "hijacked."

And now for the next news headlines:

Satanic cult leader warns that Satan worship is being hijacked by Satan.

Bloods and Crypts leaders warn that their gangs are being hijacked by gangbangers.

[gg188]

I feel sorry for the moderate Muslims, both of them.

Those "radical" Islams are giving the other .00000000001% of them a bad name.

[gg188]

Moderate Muslim = Muslim who ignores the Korans many murderous dictates. Means a Muslim who ignores the Koranic commandments to emulate the life of Muhammad which happens to be that of a homicidal maniac.

Radical Islam: kill Christians and Jews.

Moderate Islam: enslave Christians and Jews, THEN kill them.

[nuconvert]

You're smart enough to know that asking tubavil, will not give you an accurate answer to that question.

[Capt. Tom]

Lee Kwan Yew is the father of Singapore.snip
He is not muslim

I figured he wasn't a Muslim, because he is asking Muslims to turn their back on God and collaborate with infidels.

Such Naivete.

But I shoudn't be too critical, the most prominent world leader thinks we all worship the same God, and Islam is a religion of peace. - Tom

[KC_for_Freedom]

But I shoudn't be too critical, the most prominent world leader thinks we all worship the same God, and Islam is a religion of peace. - Tom

Me thinks you confuse "strategery" with his true thoughts about Islam. In his shoes, with millions of Americans depending on Saudi oil to get to work in the morning, the concept of moderate muslims serves a temporizing purpose.

Incidently, I do not believe all muslims are interested at all in following the true teaching of Islam, any more than all Christians want to be missionaries and proselitizers for their faith. Faithful adherants to Islam know what the Koran says, and thinking muslims know why Mohammad said what he said when he said it. So they (the thinking muslims) can live with the ambiguity of being told to kill the unbeliever and the fact that murder of human beings is wrong regardless of their faith and come out on the side that it is not a big deal to skip the murder part.

The key is that the radical muslim is in charge of this movement and they need to be cut off. (The killing of Yassim was a good example, many thinking muslims will eventually realize that Yassim could have continued life if he had permitted his enemy to live as well.

[Capt. Tom]

So they (the thinking muslims) can live with the ambiguity of being told to kill the unbeliever and the fact that murder of human beings is wrong regardless of their faith and come out on the side that it is not a big deal to skip the murder part.

The thinking Muslim?What your talking about are heretics and slackers. People who profess to believe in a religion but pick and chose the parts they want to follow.

An example would be John Kerry, who calls himself a Catholic but holds views on abortion that are contrary to the teaching of the Catholic Church. He must be a thinking Catholic?

I am sure a Wahabbi Muslim hates Muslim slackers more than the infidel. A war is beng waged against the infidels and the so-called moderate muslims are sitting on their hands,or worse yet, like Musharraf in Pakistan doing the bidding of the infidel.

This war is religiously driven, and God trumps everything. It's not what you want done, or your country wants done: . It's all about what Allah wants done.- Tom

[KC_for_Freedom]

I am sure a Wahabbi Muslim hates Muslim slackers more than the infidel. A war is beng waged against the infidels and the so-called moderate muslims are sitting on their hands,or worse yet, like Musharraf in Pakistan doing the bidding of the infidel.

I do not doubt you Tom, my point is that there are apostate muslims and they will not lift a finger to kill us and may even defend themselves against the Wahabbi. Right now the Wahabbi has the advantage of the koran on his side in the arguement, but they will not reach out to every apostate muslim. Its just a way of saying we don't have to kill every one of them, (unless we can't tell the difference and this is what Lee Kuan Yew was trying to say). Stand up and wave that anti terror flag or you will be counted with the terrorists. We should be saying this loudly too, but its not politically correct to say it yet.

He must be a thinking Catholic?

Well in my terminology yes he would be, he is thinking that if he supports the Church in their position on abortion he will lose the support of the mindless abortion is my single issue female democrats. You can be certain that Kerry would switch positions if it would get him more votes.

[Robert_Paulson2]

rofl
you ought to go into professional comedy!

[Robert_Paulson2]

ISALM, at your feet or at your neck.
The folks who deny the clash of cultures and that the world war three with "radical Islam" is MOST of Islam... are living in denial. They are out to kill all infidels... jews, christians and destroy the West.

the very tenets of the faith and ALL it's leaders since about 600-700 AD... has been to murder, kill, rape and conquer.

It's not a religion of peace, it's a political ideology of tyranny and murder, HIDING in the thinly veiled rags of religion. Most every ongoing conflict right now on the planet has as it's primary component ISLAMIC religious beliefs.

Welcome to the war, fellow infidel, Allah wants to kill you!
The only good muslim, ISN'T a practicing one.

[Robert_Paulson2]

I think we get it KC....
there are muslims and apostate muslims... the former are radical murderors, running the islamic show, and the latter for now, are more likely to NOT want any of the blood and gore of murdered Jews and Christians on their hands.

For our purposes then "The only GOOD muslim, is not really a muslim at all." (the apostate one)

I don't trust any of them, but I can see your point. I know one or two who think all the praying, abstinence and hatred of jews... is bull... of course, they are the ones that actually do business with jews and christians all the time, and think that mohammet was an extremist.

in other words, they reject most everything about islam except for the idea that there is only one God.

[JasonC]

An ignorant remark - Lee Kuan Yew is not Muslim. He is Chinese by ethnicity, the former leader of Singapore, educated at Cambridge, and a leading booster of confucian values. About 15% of the population of Singapore is Muslim, and he is obviously talking to them about their responsibilities. And also making a rather pointed remark about Mahathir next door in Malaysia, who should be doing more than he is to lead people away from terrorism.