"Like Shooting Fish in a Barrel" -- Answering a Liberal Email

Me | Mar 27, 2004 | by Laz

[Lazamataz]

Like shooting fish in a freakin' barrel, this is:

1. Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a conservative radio host. Then it's an illness and you need our prayers for your recovery.
   • Rush barely spoke to the issue of drugs whatsoever, especially once he felt their bite. Those conservatives that feel drug addiction is a moral failing tend to excoriate Rush, btw. And those that do not, do not.

2. The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our highest national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against Iraq.
   • The United States SHOULD get out of the U.N. However, it's here now, so we use it to our benefit. It's kind of like the libertarian I know who uses Social Security Disability. While his ideology makes him abhor that system, not taking advantage of it would be foolish. Curiously, he accepts the checks, then writes his representatives denouncing the program. It is not a contradiction to take advantage of a current extremely flawed system if you do not like that system. Many communists hated communism, but still needed to survive.

3. Government should relax regulation of Big Business and Big Money but crack down on individuals who use marijuana to relieve the pain of illness.
   • This is just silly. How you can attempt to relate the onerous restrictions on business in one point, then decry the exportation of American jobs to India in another, shows your own cognitive dissonence.

4. "Standing Tall for America" means firing your workers and moving their jobs to India.
   • Talk to me when you are ready to ease those restrictions on business so that we can compete in the global economy, where no such restrictions exist on our opponents.

5. A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind without regulation.
   • As soon as you can convince me that the fetus has no body, and cannot desire life, I'll concede you this one.

6. Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals and Hillary Clinton.
   • Take the issue of the condemnation of homosexuality up with G-d himself. In both the Torah and the Bible, G-d finds that 'to lie with a man as with a woman is an abomination before the L- rd.

7. The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in speeches while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.
   • Would you show me where Democrats are any better about not slashing military funding? Do you recall the Bonus March? Are you at all aware of what happened to the military under Clinton?

8. Group sex and drug use are degenerate sins unless you someday run for governor of California as a Republican.
   • Would you kindly point to me the conservative who embraces Arnolds mistakes earlier in life? The people of California (hardly conservatives, for the most part) elected Arnold DESPITE his failures, not excusing them.

9. If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.
   • Would you please point me out any thinking individual who believes this? The point of condoms not being in school is not to PLANT NEW ideas in the heads of our 'yutes'.

10. A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies, then demand their cooperation and money.
    • Your list is getting increasingly irrational. Please point out spefics so I can address those.

11. HMOs and insurance companies have the interest of the public at heart.
    • No one said they did. However, the act of competition and the system of capitalism creates more efficient and better systems of distribution.

12. Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy. Providing health care to all Americans is socialism.
    • This is a place where Bush has been acting like one of you guys. He's giving all kinds of money to Iraq like a liberal would. So quitcher bitchin', unless you are suddenly recversing course and do NOT want to see Universal Health Care. If you think Health Care is expensive NOW, just wait until it's FREE.

13. Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but creationism should be taught in schools.
    • Global warming is junk science. The link from tobacco to cancer is not. I am in agreement that Creationism should not be taught in schools.

14. Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush's daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him and a bad guy when Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.
    • Saddam has always been a bad guy.

15. A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable offense. A president lying to enlist support for a war in which thousands die is solid defense policy.
    • You liberals have not yet made the case that Bush KNOWINGLY LIED about Iraq. We have successfully made the case that Clinton committed perjury, however.

16. Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution, which include banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet.
    • Marriage has been primarily a religious institution since time immemorial. The fact that the government got involved is part of the problem, and is what is causing all the nonsense about gay marriages. Besides, do you guys really want the misery that we heteros endure under marriage???

17. The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades, but George Bush's driving record is none of our business.
    • The first speaks to lying, bribery, and influence-peddling. The second speaks to nothing important.

18. You support states' rights, which means Attorney General John Ashcroft can tell states what local voter initiatives they have a right to adopt.
    • Do you agree that there are any federal powers over states, especiaully as regards voting customs? Or are you willing to embrace the Poll Tax again?

19. What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital national interest, but what Bush did in the '80s is irrelevant.
    • Clinton may have been acting in a traitorous capacity, certainly it was anti-American. Bush was getting drunk.

      And you say we conservatives are hung up on minutea.

20. Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is communist, but trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.
    • If any one of you people try to tell me that China is presently COMMUNIST, then please stand still. I want to enjoy laughing in your face.

[Lazamataz]

I miss him, too. Hope you're well my friend.

Thanks for your kind wishes....

[StriperSniper]

How naive we were. :o)

LOL! Yup. :)

[Lazamataz]

Creationism is not based on science, it is based on religion. There is no "scientific evidence" of creation. Therefore, it is not "scientific evidence", and schools have no business teaching it as such.

AY MAYN, AI AYM TALKING TO THE PILOT!!! TAKE THIS THREAD TO COOBA, MAYN!!! I HAVE A GUN, MAYN!!!

[anonymous_user]

good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies, then demand their cooperation and money.

Didn't our "allies" abdicate their responsibilities as participants in the Almighty U.N. after 17 meaningless resolutions?

Aren't these the same countries that sold Saddam nuclear power plants, weapons, night vision equipment, and armored bunkers while he raped the countries wealth and killed and tourtured his citizens?

Aren't these the same Henny Penny "allies" that demanded repayment for Saddam's loans and a "role" in rebuilding Iraq after we liberated the country?

Wow, this is easy and fun! Is this really the best they have to offer?

[Lazamataz]

To those people who say that it is hypocritical to trade with China but not Cuba I say,

To them *I* say, China is not communist in anything but title any more.

[mean lunch lady]

Re: What does Cuba have to offer us:
"Cigars, cigarettes, cigarillos" -from an old commercial when advertising such products on TV was still allowed.(No, Cuba was not the advertiser)

[Tennessee_Bob]

Thank you for that response - I've always tried to make the point that I don't hate homosexuals - I hate what they do. There is a tremendous difference.

[I still care]

The tragic thing is, those that don't understand Christianity actually believe this. They actually believe we think God hates sinners.

"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."

But there are some things God hates. From Proverbs -

There are six things which the LORD hates,
Yes, seven which are an abomination to Him:

Haughty eyes, a lying tongue,
And hands that shed innocent blood,
A heart that devises wicked plans,
Feet that run rapidly to evil,
A false witness who utters lies,
And one who spreads strife among brothers.

Now if I was Hillary, this verse WOULD make me a little bit nervous....

[I still care]

What a neat chart! Thanks!

[driftless]

Smokes are something we can do without thank you very much. I wouldn't change our present policy just so a few swells can purchase cheaper El Manuros.

[mean lunch lady]

Good point, I quit many, many years ago.
However, I do think the trade embargo against Cuba has done more harm than good. BTW, I grew up in Ft. Lauderdale and when I was in high school in my Spanish 5 class, we had 3 guys from Cuba who were there to learn English. It was
interesting to hear them argue about Cuba. They all said that they thought Cuba was no better off under Castro than under Batista. The poor Cuban people totally bought Castro's act and they helped him to oust Batista then found out what he REALLY was planning for them.

[lowbridge]

Talking about answering liberals emails.....anyone want to take this guy on?

Background info: I was surfing the net, and came across this website: http://www.performantsystems.com/

On the bottom of the page he has placed his political beliefs under the title: "Politics (and no I won't shut up about it)"

Third thing listed is the Lovenstein IQ hoax. I sent him a (nicely worded) email:

"I dont know how long you've had that up at your site, nor if I'm the first or the thousandth to point this out to you, but the following info you have on your website is a hoax:"

And I included the address to snopes.com: http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/presiq.htm

In only a couple hours, I got a reply from him (subject title: "Forever"):

That and anything I can find to disrepect that f***ing moron appointed preesident will stay forever.

That psychotic pirce of garbage has cost hundres of lives and billions of dolllars for nothing.

Why would anyone support or defend that a**h**e?

--
Alan Gruskoff
Pasadena CA USA

(phone number and curse words censored by me, but misspelled words are his)

Nope, I don't think I'll be doing business with this guy.