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The real reason the state opposes homeschooling
World Net Daily ^ | December 12, 2002 | Michael Arnold Glueck, M.D

Posted on 03/27/2004 6:44:45 AM PST by LadyShallott

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To: Piquaboy
The Commie philosophy. Control the minds of the children and you secure your future. You are exactly right.
21 posted on 03/27/2004 7:41:38 AM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: EdReform
Sorry, but your union is not any better than NEA.

Two things come to mind: 1. A "good" teacher should not need a union to protect their job. Why would any taxpayer want anything beside a "good" teacher. 2. There are many forms of private insurance that are available to teachers that would protect them against school board actions, should their jobs be threatened. So they can't use the argument of no protection available.

The fact is teachers who belong to unions do so because they are socialist/liberal idealogs. Or they live in fear.

22 posted on 03/27/2004 7:44:03 AM PST by Luke (u)
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To: kellynla
And are you homeschooling?? It is better than you can possibly imagine.
23 posted on 03/27/2004 7:46:42 AM PST by bboop
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To: LadyShallott
"Please note well: The most important reason was that parents felt that they, the amateurs with no significant facilities, could do a better job than the professionals with their gargantuan resources."


Strong arguments in support of this position are found even among well credentialed educators, for example in the publications at:
http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/
which sees students, teachers, and even educational administrators caught up in dystfunctional institutions with agendas that run counter to their interests as educators and learners.
24 posted on 03/27/2004 7:48:14 AM PST by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: LadyShallott
PING
25 posted on 03/27/2004 7:49:09 AM PST by pointsal
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To: LadyShallott; EdReform
Beside the brain washing, there is a more basic reason that the public education industry hates home schooling.

As in all cases with the lunatic left, just follow the money.

We are invited to a large 4th of July party every year by a couple who are best friends. They invite several neighbors who are teachers, principles and one is a superintendent in a school district over 100 miles away. She has an apartment in the town where she is the superintendent.

Last year about 2 hours into the party and probably at least two glasses of wine for most, a friend came up and said follow me, sit down with me, listen and don't say anything.

He led the way to a bench about 10 feet behind a cluster of teachers, principles and this superintendent. The superintendent was leading a vocal and hostile discussion about home schooling. At times she appeared about to stroke out.

In her district a home school student cost the district $7500 per year, and in our district it was about $8,000. She said that every teacher, principle and superintendent had to work 24/7 to discourage home schooling. They should have a goal of getting at least one child per year back into the system to negate future budget cuts.

She concluded that if they didn't stop home schooling their sweet jobs would be in real danger.
26 posted on 03/27/2004 7:52:46 AM PST by Grampa Dave (America can't afford a 9/10 John F'onda Kerry after 9/11.)
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To: RunningJoke
My neice has just recently graduated with an elementary school education degree. It took her six years to get though college, and not because she had to work at an outside job. No, she just couldn't pass her courses and had to repeat many. In fact, she kept changing her major because she couldn't pass her courses. Finally, she told her parents that she had chosen elementary school education because anyone could pass that major.

You think I want this dumb rock teaching my grandchildren?
27 posted on 03/27/2004 7:54:15 AM PST by Conservababe (Kerry, you said to "bring it on". We are.)
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To: LadyShallott
. . . So they're attacking in the name of "standards."

Standards of mediocrity.

28 posted on 03/27/2004 7:55:15 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: quantim
Let's start with some NEA teacher's union busting along with state-level teacher's unions. They're the real lobbyists for the DUmming down of America.

Not only that but in Washington State the teacher's union is suing the state legislature for not allocating enough money to education! Talk about the inmates running the asylum! Remember when the people used to be in control?

29 posted on 03/27/2004 8:01:56 AM PST by Bernard Marx (In theory there's no difference between theory and practice. But in practice there is.)
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To: Bonny Dick
Parents make a sacrifice to Homeschool their children and the children are intelligent enough to understand and appreciate the sacrifice, just as children who are neglected by their parents understand and resent the neglect.

Bingo! Perfectly said. Perfectly true.

30 posted on 03/27/2004 8:02:13 AM PST by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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To: quantim
Let's start by abolishing the Dept of Education.
31 posted on 03/27/2004 8:07:11 AM PST by chickenlips
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To: Conservababe
Finally, she told her parents that she had chosen elementary school education because anyone could pass that major.

I was at one time an elementary ed major. I remember looking around in classes and realizing these people would be my peers in the workplace. That, combined with a few other things, was what persuaded me that I didn't belong. I wanted to go into the ed system to change things and found that was not going to be the case.

32 posted on 03/27/2004 8:08:27 AM PST by conservative cat
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To: LadyShallott
Thanks for your nice post !
33 posted on 03/27/2004 8:18:58 AM PST by Edgewood Pilot
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To: LadyShallott
There are plenty of "soft-tyrants" who feel they can do a better job raising your children than you can:


34 posted on 03/27/2004 8:19:05 AM PST by spodefly (A tagline is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: Luke
"The fact is teachers who belong to unions do so because they are socialist/liberal idealogs. Or they live in fear."

My observation is that it is neither for most of them - while many ARE social/liberal idealogically, most are just followers and join simply "to please" or avoid controversy. Now in non right-to-work states, maybe fear of losing their jobs comes into play, but I don't know for sure.

I don't think the teachers unions would be as effective as they are if they had large numbers of avowed idealogs - rather it is better for them if they have a relatively small number idealogs which steer the direction of the union, the rest just follow.
35 posted on 03/27/2004 8:19:06 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: LadyShallott
In the light of what transpires in the 'public schools', I don't see why the author refers to 'soft dictatorship'.

It's certainly not 'soft' to the children forced to conform to its strictures.
36 posted on 03/27/2004 8:27:07 AM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: LadyShallott
Reasons for homeschooling range widely, from physical conditions and danger in government schools to concern about unacceptable teaching of ideology or religion.

Yup. Those were our reasons--all of them. Our kids were in public school for a few years. Once, our 6-year-old daughter showed up at home in the middle of the day, unsupervised and fresh from a field trip (half an hour early). Apparently, she had been cut loose and allowed to walk a mile home by herself. Nobody explained or cared. Another time, a group of boys were following her around on campus, threatening to "rape her." The self-proclaimed lesbian principle didn't listen, care or act. We supposed, at the time, that she was much too busy implementing Gray Davis' "inclusion" program for homosexuals.

Even here in Colorado, where we escaped to, our oldest son came home once with an assignment to "write a spell," in celebration of the release of the new Harry Potter movie. He tells us that the teacher announced also that he was "a pagan." I still haven't figured out what the assignment had to do with math. Our calls went unanswered.

My youngest is Down Syndrome and was coming home from Special Ed with work he could not duplicate for us. Once, when he brought home one of the many school illnesses, that all public school parents can attest occur regularly, we all got sick and, subsequently, harrassed by some bureacrat at the school who threatened "truancy" (we were not able to get to the doctor right away and, being sick, we did not keep the bureacrat immediately informed of our movements, or lack thereof).

Praise God! It is very easy to homeschool here in Colorado. We saw much too much in two states and at three seperate schools. Of course, we've read of much more. Our kids have been homeschooled over three years now, and we are blessed that they are away from these and other influences, found in these mini-concentration/indoctronization/illness incubation camps known as "public schools."

37 posted on 03/27/2004 8:28:07 AM PST by Types_with_Fist ("You'll never get the pass code Eric!")
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To: Luke

Sorry, but your union is not any better than NEA...


Sorry - but you are mistaken. The Association of American Educators is NOT A UNION.

The AAE is a nonprofit, national professional association that is meeting a critical need for many of America's educators.

In 1994, a group of concerned educators from around the country came together to address the problem of low public esteem for our public school system. This group included some of the most respected names in education, many of which you will recognize on our Advisory Board. We were inspired to establish an organization for professional educators who are more concerned about our children's right to a good education than they are with just their own benefits or personal agendas.

The AAE will serve as a new national advocate for educators who envision a future in education where professional teachers will be free to control their own careers. A future where true professionals can negotiate their own compensation package if they so choose, and make their own decisions about use of time, resources, and teaching methodologies...

We believe educators should be free from all forms of compulsory membership and endorsements. Furthermore, we believe strikes and boycotts are detrimental to students and to the reputation of teachers as professionals. AAE is dedicated to improving education through cooperation, not conflict.

The AAE endorses more local control of education-greater parental involvement, and higher standards for students and teachers. As an association of teachers, administrators, and support personnel, we are devoted to building respect and support for our nation's public schools by working with parents and local community leaders to improve our system...



There are many forms of private insurance that are available to teachers that would protect them against school board actions, should their jobs be threatened. So they can't use the argument of no protection available.


Association of American Educators Liability Insurance Plan

Every AAE member receives his or her own personal liability insurance policy instead of being covered under one blanket policy issued to an organization.

Accessing AAE's legal service benefits is never dependent on the discretion and pre-approval of an AAE executive. Access to your legal protection is not dependent upon whether or not your case is determined to be in the best interest of the AAE, as it is with some other organizations.

YOU are the insured party-not your organization!

On liability insurance-related matters, AAE members are free to use AAE's attorney referral network or they may prefer to seek out legal representation of their own choosing instead of having to accept a predetermined legal advisor-as with some other organizations...


38 posted on 03/27/2004 8:28:58 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: Grampa Dave
Check out this article regarding defection from some MA public schools.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2004/03/21/common_schools_and_common_duty/

People are going to look after their kids' best interests, not the interests of the "common school," which generally hasn't served its students well for the past 30 years.

The well has run dry as far as school funding is concerned. It seems there is little support if bond issues can't be passed.

I read an article a couple of weeks ago which stated that MA now has 25,000 homeschoolers -- and that's in a state where it's difficult to homeschool.
39 posted on 03/27/2004 8:30:07 AM PST by ladylib
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To: LadyShallott
I have always found it interesting that people can have the choice to kill their unborn child through abortion but don't have the choice to take responsibility to educate their children. There is a fox in the chicken house folks!!!!!!!
40 posted on 03/27/2004 8:32:41 AM PST by ChevyZ28 (We can make the plans of our heart, but the final out come is in God's hands.)
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