[Peach]

1. Rep. Christopher Shays, chairman of the Subcommittee on National Security, Emerging Threats and International Relations, said that in June 2000 Clark told the subcommittee there was "no need for an assessment" of the terrorist threat.

Three national commissions concluded the US needed a comprehensive threat assessment and a national strategy. Shays held 20 hearings pre 9/11 and on June 28, 2000 he asked Mr. Clarke, then serving as Clinton's Special Assistant and National Coordinator, Security, Infrastructure Protection and Counterterrorism, when an all source threat assessment and strategy would be completed.

Clark answered "No assessment has been done, and there is no need for an assessment. I know the threat."

2. In 2000, the Department of Defense Worldwide Conference on Terrorism asked Mr. Clarke's assistant when a national strategy on terrorism would be completed. The assistant responded that a strategy was being developed (in 2000 - the last year of the Clinton presidency). However, no national strategy to combat terrorism was every produced during the Clinton administration.

3. 911 Commissioner Lehman noted to Clarke on Tuesday that his 15 hours of private testimony differed substantially from his public testimony. So substantially that Lehman told Clarke he couldn't believe it. As a result of that, the White House is seeking to declassify whether Clarke lied under oath.

4. On page 127 of Clarke's new book "Against All Enemies", Clarke notes that it's possible that al Qaida operatives in the Phillipes "taught Terry Nichols how to blow up the Oklahoma Federal Building." Intelligence places Nichols there on the same days as Ramzi Yousef, and "we do know that Nichols's bombs did not work before his Philippines stay and were deadly when he returned."

And yet, the Clinton administration focused exclusively on homegrown terrorists, and never talked publicly about this matter. Laurie Mylroie, formerly of the Clinton administration, and others, have since talked about the Iraqi connection to the OKC bombing frequently. Yet your news organization has been largely if not completely silent.

5. Despite Clarke's assertion that he is non-partisan, a few moments research into public records indicates that Clarke has only donated to Democrat's campaigns, never to Republicans.

[usmcobra]

Actually Clinton coined the phrase "war on terror" after the first attack on the world trade center, only it was just another sound byte for him.

[MEG33]

I wish I could send the Professor all the research done on Clarke statements.Great Aussie article this morning,implying that Clarke was less than accurate about some statements about Indonesia in his book.

[Peach]

And read this article, printed in June 2001 (pre 9/11) about what Bush was doing and what Clarke wasn't doing. Hah! Clarke is fishfood.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1105829/posts?page=1

[leadpenny]

Could this guy have his Bill Clinton knee pads any more firmly in place?

[MNJohnnie]

Oh of course! The current Administration must take the blame for an 8 month "lack of vision" but not a word about 8 years of bluster and inaction from the Clinton Administration. Again, SO WHAT? Compare the POST 9-11 actions of the Bush Administration with the 8 years of bluster and inaction by the Clintonites. The same Clinton Administration that John Kerry is currently praising as the model HE would use for a War on Terror. Endless meetings and tough talk but NO actions is the Kerry plan for fighting Terorrism. All the rest of this 9-11 Comission blather is just the usual Democratic Establishment smokescreen to hide the fact that their canidate is completely unfit for the job of President.

[mikegi]

Wrong! Our most serious threat in the long term is China. China and Russia have the ability to destroy us as a nation. AQ does not.

No, the fault for 9/11 lays completely in the Clinton administrations lack of response to the terrorist threat that emerged in the 1990s. They never responded effectively to the numerous AQ attacks on us. It made no difference who was elected in 2000. The die was already set.

I'm also ticked by the Clintonoids claiming credit for stopping the Millenium bombing. It was an alert border guard in WA that stopped it, not Clinton.

[rageaholic]

Before 9/11 the atmosphere of Political Correctness and Multiculturalism made it near impossible to call suspicion on Arab flight students and muslims preaching radical islam. Anybody complaining about them would be sent to sensitivity training camp. Not a lot has changed.

[Thom Pain]

I can guarantee that had President Bush "known" that the WTC/Pentagon attack was to be carried out on 9/11 and he grounded all aviation that day he would have been tarred and feathered and run out of town by sundown. By grounding aviation the scum would have simply stayed home and nothing would have happened. Nothing. And ABCNBCCBSCNN...would have been screaming what a power-mad extremist paranoic dictator the President was and how he didn't have the authority blah blah blah. The terrorists would have simply waited until flights resumed to carry out their attack, probably waiting until the impeachment of Bush for abuse of power had removed him from office. And then President Cheney would be blamed when the attacks finally took place, thereby turning us into Andalusia (formerly Spain, for those of you on the left), followed by an irreversible plunge into socialism followed by terror unfettered (since the dems would dismantle our military in a globalist appeasement strategy).

[Mercat]

Gosh, we mention Reagan and Bush but not one mention of Clinton's failures.

[dawn53]

The whole argument seems so absurd to me.

If on September 10th, we had arrested 19 Arab men who the FBI said were planning to hijack planes and fly them into the World Trade Center and Pentagon, what would the left have said?

If we had unilaterally invaded Afghanistan and taken out the Taleban based on the fact that they were supporting AQ, what would the left have said?


It's like saying, "What if on Dec. 6th, 1941, we had dropped a bomb on Hiroshima in order to prevent Pearl Harbor?"

September 11th happened, it changed the course of American history, just like Pearl Harbor, just like the sinking of the Lusitania.

At this point, blame is only political rhetoric, and IMHO, not even worth discussing.

[syriacus]

Wow!! The New York Times is chosing Clarke's most negative assessment of the Bush administration.

Surprise, surprise!! [/sarcasm]

[Zeppo]

Ms. Rice, spelling out the foreign policy priorities of a Bush White House, argued that after years of drift under the Clinton administration, United States foreign policy had to concentrate on the "real challenges" to American security.

I'm not certain whether the author is merely confused, or whether he wrote this deeply-flawed article with malicious intent. His main premise seems to be that Republican administrations, most notably the Reagan administration and the current Bush administration, have had ideological blinders on, and due to their outdated belief that only state-sponsored terrorism can muster a real threat to national security, they missed the threat from Al Quaeda.

The author has done a sloppy job, and has not come close to proving his case. For just one example, when he quotes an article by Dr. Rice to support his thesis, he's making an obvious error. The article in question is focused on "foreign policy". By definition, foreign policy deals with the relations between states. It does not deal with relations between states and NGOs, or between states and organized crime syndicates, or between states and large multinational corporations, or, more tellingly, between states and terrorist groups. So, relying on that article to explain the Bush administration's policy and actions for fighting terrorist groups is simply silly at best (or, possibly a malicious red herring).

[InvisibleChurch]

so would anyone have believed W if he'd announced to the nation that alqaida had plans to fly into the towers and then gone ahead to attack them in afghanistan, iraq or anywhere? up until 911 few people had heard of alqaida or would have doubted their ability to do that much evil... the left would have screamed for his head even moreso than now ... as usual with a dangerous intersection that people say needs a stoplight, nothing is done until someone is killed...(yes, i know about khobartowers and wtc1 and the cole and the embassybombings and the and the and the... but we know that xxxlinton was just a coward)

[jocon307]

"The idea that the sinister hand of the Kremlin was behind groups like the Italian Red Brigades and even the Irish Republican Army revealed the deep sense of paranoia within political circles at the time."

I can't speak about the Red Brigades, but I know for a fact that the IRA was (and no doubt is) a communist organization. Whether the Soviets helped them or not, I do not know, but they were commies, plain and simple.

This author obviously thinks that Communism and its quest for world domination was some kind of a ha-ha joke. He no doubt thinks that about the Islamofacists too, and he would no doubt have thought it about silly old Hitler and Co.

Well laugh in the face of the millions of dead if you will, because you'll be crying when the forces of evil come for you, Mr. Neuman.

[Thinkin' Gal]

Why Nobody Saw 9/11 Coming

The SOL saw it coming:

23 August 2001

>>>A red flag is a well known warning sign or danger signal. What a picture to see the SOL holding a red flag up. What a picture to see the Statue of Liberty with the same initials (SOL) as a common expletive beginning with the letters S.O.L. meaning S___ Out of Luck.

Volition: The exercise of the will: Prospective volition: Danger signal
danger signal (noun)

danger signal, note of warning, WARNING
murmur, muttering, DISCONTENT
writing on the wall, portent, evil omen, OMEN
gathering clouds, thundercloud
storm warning, gale warning, small craft warning, hurricane warning
tornado warning or alert
warning sound, alarum, alarm clock, alarm bell, burglar alarm, security alarm, car alarm, fire alarm, fire bell, foghorn, fog signal, bell buoy, car horn, klaxon, buzzer, bicycle bell, police whistle
blast, honk, toot, LOUDNESS
alarm, church bell, curfew, tocsin, siren, alert, red alert
tattoo, beat of the drum, trumpet-call, CALL
war cry, battle cry, rallying cry
fiery cross
death's head, skull and crossbones
warning light, red light, yellow light, Very lights, lighthouse, beacon
quarantine flag, storm flag, red flag, yellow flag
distress signal, SOS, Mayday, SIGNAL
sign of alarm, start, tremor, blench, sweat, hair on end, FEAR<<<

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b850d2f1135.htm#127

[LjubivojeRadosavljevic]

["In the end, the 9/11 hearings are likely to find.....

...Something that most everyone knows about human nature. That is, people "react", instead of "act" (ahead of time).

It takes events like: 9-11, Pearl Harbor, The Boston Massacre, and so on...to occur (FIRST) and then changes are made in the way people think and behave. Unfortunately, innocent lives are lost in the process.

[Just mythoughts]

New York Times still in love with communists, worship that "system" of "we are gods".

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

by the end of the decade, it seemed as if the model of state-sponsored terrorism had effectively been reversed: Al Qaeda was now in charge of a state — Afghanistan under the Taliban — rather than vice versa.

On the one hand it can be of analytical use to swap the nomenclature around like that. But on the other hand it is a distinction without a difference. We needed to mop up the Taliban in order to attack Al Qaeda just as surely, either way.

But as to the culpability, or lack thereof, of Iraq, IMHO Saddam's problem was that he had cultivated a situation in which nobody knew that he wasn't making WMD and nobody knew that he had nothing to do with 911 and especially with the anthrax problem of the time. Having cultivated that situation for his own reasons (possibly including the fact that they were true), there was no way to assure Bush that they were not true - and thus no way to prevent an American invasion.

The Administration decided that it could not afford for the regimes in the region to be in doubt that Saddam had done those things and gotten away with it, any more than it could afford for Saddam to have actually done those things (if it had) and for him to believe that he had gotten away with it. The fruits of this policy are not only a democratic Iraqi government in the making but a Libya turning from foe to friend.

Al Qaeda can still exist sub rosa anywhere in the world, but the places willing to allow them to exist publicly are dwindling and may soon disappear. At which point Al Qaeda will be the law enforcement problem the Democrats are fond of claiming that it already is.

[vharlow]

The "failure of vision" cannot be placed on the shoulders of the current administration alone. The bulk of the population thought we were somehow immune. It drives me nuts that the partisans in places of power, and the media only blame the government for "failure of vision." The media of course, isn't remotely culpable. The media, that thinks it is immune from everything.

What I cannot understand is why so many are willing to buy blaming the current administration, and call for us to turn over our safety to a corrupt international body that has never stopped terrorism, and indeed, has fed off it and corrupt dictatorships for decades. Amazing.