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Friends, What Friends? (Ingraham)
Sign Up for Laura's E-blast ^ | March 26, 2004 | Laura Ingraham

Posted on 03/26/2004 8:44:50 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day

Friends, What Friends?

Remember the first time you realized that someone you thought was a close friend became a distant one, or just dropped out of your life altogether? Sometimes you can't pinpoint exactly why a friendship changes, it just does. Sometimes you wake up one day and realize that your core beliefs were so different that the relationship never really was what you thought it was. When you see this old friend on the street you stop for a polite chat, ask about the kids, the job. Or perhaps you’ll meet for lunch every now and then, but it’s just not the same.

So goes our relationship with Europe.

This week Secretary of State Colin Powell flew to Madrid to meet with that country's incoming Socialist Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero. But the nice photo op notwithstanding, the trip was largely a bust. Powell was unsuccessful in getting the Zapatero, who ran as an anti-war/anti-Bush candidate, to change his mind about pulling Spanish troops out of Iraq unless the UN takes over.

Meanwhile, President Bush told French president Jacques Chirac that he will travel to Normandy on June 6th to mark the 60th anniversary of the D-Day invasion. This was heralded as a sign of "a thaw" in our frosty relations with France.

For his part, Sen. John Kerry -- who owned real estate in Italy's Lake Como until last year-- promises to rebuild the bridges to Europe that he charges were badly damaged by Pres. Bush's "arrogant, reckless foreign policy." The familiar Democrat refrain is that President Bush--with a "my-way-or-the-highway" approach to foreign policy-- squandered the goodwill that the world had bestowed on us post-September 11th. The cowboy didn’t kowtow. One can't help but conclude in a Kerry White House, there would be a full-court press to impress "the world."

But can any individual or any party significantly improve our relations with Europe?

It is conventional wisdom in some circles that Europe and the U.S. were much closer during the Clinton Administration. But this week that notion was blown out of the water by the 9/11 Commission testimony of former Clinton Secretary of State Madeline Albright and National Security Adviser Sandy Berger. When asked why the Clinton team hadn’t launched an aggressive military campaign against Afghanistan after the 1998 African embassy bombings, both said that such a move wouldn't have been supported by the "international community." Apparently, neither had even bothered to make the case to our European pals that the Taliban and al Qaeda needed to be taken out. What does that say about the state of the American-European relationship?

Our problems with Europe result from the fact that Europeans strongly believe two things: (1) Israel is in the wrong in the Middle East, and (2) the United States has too much power. No president, Democrat or Republican, is going to give in on either of those points. Not even John Kerry.

The time has come for us to move beyond this whole concept of "allies." The term implies a friendship that simply does not exist anymore.

In the 30s, 40s, and 50s, America and much of Europe joined together to fight Nazism, fascism, and communism. We set ourselves apart from much of the rest of the world through our common beliefs in capitalism and free speech. The crusade to bring those values to the rest of the world has been very successful while the fears that drew us together are gone.

This is not something to get apoplectic about. After the Revolutionary War, there was real tension between the U.S. and Britain (the War of 1812). But over time we came back together as allies in a new struggle. Ditto for our relationship with France in the 19th century.

As much as I like this column's opening analogy, anytime we start pretending that countries are like friends or family we are bound to be disappointed. Countries aren't people. There is no "family of nations." There is no "global community." To think otherwise is naïve. The world is a dangerous place where each country acts in its own interest. Poland joined the European Union not because they felt some close affinity with the French, but because they thought it was the best thing for the future of the Polish people. Tony Blair sent British forces to Iraq in part because he thought it was in Britain’s long term interest both to maintain an alliance with the U.S. and beat back a destabilizing force in the Middle East.

If John Kerry thinks that attending European conferences and pushing Congress to ratify more international accords is going to endear him to the Europeans, he's sorely mistaken. He'd have better luck wearing French cuffs and buying a residence in Provence.

During a Kerry Administration, France, Germany, and Spain would probably be less overtly hostile to American interests than they are now. But that doesn’t mean much else would change. A Kerry presidency won't compel Europe to invest more money or manpower in the war on terror in order to show its support for America. It won’t mean Europe will cease subsidizing companies like Airbus to the detriment of its American competitors. It won’t mean that Europe will back off ruling against American giants like Microsoft.

No amount of turbo-diplomacy can make countries do what is not in their self-interest. The time may come when Europe will take terrorism as seriously as we do. If that happens, we will be reunited with our European allies once again -- until the next time when what's good for America isn't good for Europe, or vice versa.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911commission; albright; allies; appeasement; bushdoctrine; diplomacy; enemies; europe; eurotrash; euroweenies; ingraham; lauraingraham; newnwo; sandyberger
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To: My2Cents
"AFFLECK!"

That duck soundbite/sample cracks me up every time they use it.

And the Deankey clip was hysterical--I wish they hadn't taken that off the website. As you say, the best part is hearing the 3 of them cracking up as they realize how silly they must sound. At times I imagine the whole show is being broadcast from Laura's dorm room.
61 posted on 03/26/2004 11:22:42 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day ("We are delighted that Pecker will be leading the way.")
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To: MNLDS
"I live in the boondocks in Minnesota, so I know what lousy late-night AM radio reception is like"

You've probably got just about the best solution in using the Internet to access radio
talk-shows...but just in case you've missed the C. Crane radio ads (usually on the Art
Bell Show, LOL!), you might want to check them out.
While pricey, I guess they do make good AM radios and some really potent AM antennae:

http://www.ccrane.com/ccradio.asp

http://www.ccrane.com/am_antennas.asp

62 posted on 03/26/2004 11:23:22 PM PST by VOA
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To: Lancey Howard
Great Photoshop (or whatever) of Kerry as a Frog!

It looks just as I remember Edward Fox in his last disguise as the assassin in the '73 movie "The Day of the Jackal", pretending to be a Frog war veteran.

The picture is worth saving and printing up as a poster.

When he loses the election, I'd like to stick it on all the lightposts in his Beacon Hill neighborhood, LOL.

63 posted on 03/26/2004 11:25:05 PM PST by benjaminjjones
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To: MNLDS
It is conventional wisdom in some circles that Europe and the U.S. were much closer during the Clinton Administration

And did us no good at all

64 posted on 03/26/2004 11:26:03 PM PST by paul51
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To: jwalburg
"I don't know who Hugh Hewitt is."

Check out www.hughhewitt.com.
Hewitt, grad of Harvard and of U. Michigan Law School, is also a Constitutional Law professor
at Chapman University School of Law.
He was a ghostwriter/assistant for Nixon; then was in DOJ during the Reagan years, having
been unanimously approved by the Senate.
He also did opinon pieces and some series on the big PBS station in Los Angeles (KCET)
as the token conservative, but moved on to talk radio.
It was interesting to hear him grow and get tough in dealing with Democrats/liberals
Hugh was very much the gentlemanly Republican...but after enough inteviews with
some jerky Democrats and the Florida imbroglio of 2000, he's a tough fighter.

Hugh may come off as a smug Harvard Man and a bit aloof as a lawyer...
but give him a try. He gets great guests, especially on defense issues and
runs great sound clips (I really miss the zinger outtakes from Rummy's press conferences!)
65 posted on 03/26/2004 11:35:05 PM PST by VOA
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To: VOA; jwalburg
Hewitt's interview series on PBS, "Searching for God in America" was excellent, as is the companion book.

Guests and sound bites, as you say VOA, are FANTASTIC.
66 posted on 03/26/2004 11:45:38 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day ("We are delighted that Pecker will be leading the way.")
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To: VOA
"AM radio shock jock, Hugh Hewitt..."

LOL!!!
67 posted on 03/26/2004 11:46:34 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day ("We are delighted that Pecker will be leading the way.")
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To: MNLDS; jwalburg
"AM radio shock jock, Hugh Hewitt..."

That is a pretty good laugh, given his Harvard and professorial veneer!
The guests, sound-bites and the verbal interplay with "Generalissimo Duane"
really do keep the show moving along.

While we're at it, we should also give a passing nod to Hewitt's other books:
"The Embarassed Believer" (may be out of print now)
and the more recent "In, But Not Of" (IIRC).

And other honorable mention goes to the appearances of David Alan White, the
expert of Shakespeare, opera and other high-brow activities.
I REALLY like the series on Shakespeare that gets run sometimes on holidays.
Since White makes Shakespeare interesting to midshipmen at Annapolis, he really
cuts past the usual "artsy" treatment in English class and gets right to
the hard messages/themes of Shakespeare.
68 posted on 03/27/2004 12:01:27 AM PST by VOA
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To: MNLDS
to each his own

Amen to that.

Ain't America Great ! ? (within the constraints of the Constitution and not Law imposed by wacko liberal Judges, of course).

Don't get me wrong, I pretty much fall for ANY intelligent conservative woman (I know, intelligent AND conservative is redundant) up here in the conservative wasteland of Boston.

Except if they look like Barbara Milkulski or Rosie O'Donuts my ideology fails, but what the hey, the exception proves the rule.

Where was I? Another shot of vodka, no... already did that. Oh, I remember.

I don't dislike Ingraham, it's just that I like Coulter more. Plus, I think she's hiding a nice pair of hooters under those loose sweaters she wears.

Maybe Coulter's body reminds me of my ex. Six foot, skinny, topped off by amazing D-cups. The contrast of tall, skinny, and stacked just did me in.

Didn't hurt that she was 13 years junior to me. Falling for that body cost me a lot of lifespan.

Maybe Ingraham's attitude reminds me of my ex also. The ex could be a real B_tch at times. I don't cotton to that much.

Anyway, I just can't put my finger in it (er, burp, 'scuse me), that's, "can't put my finger ON IT".

Wow, now that my brain's fully fuzzy, even THAT expression sounds fun!

Carry on, it's lights out for me.

69 posted on 03/27/2004 12:34:07 AM PST by benjaminjjones
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To: Jorge
Perhaps..but if you recall the Dixie Chicks,the Barbara Streisand,etc. dive into foreign policy and military decisions then "Shut Up and Sing" makes a lot of sense!
70 posted on 03/27/2004 12:55:32 AM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: norton
I think Laura was giving them the benefit of the doubt. I don't necessarily agree with her.
71 posted on 03/27/2004 5:12:07 AM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: DLfromthedesert
I don't necessarily agree with her ON THAT ISSUE. I don't think any of them would flinch at making us less powerful and thus open us up to more dangers, but if we were being attacked, SOME of them might move to protect the people from physical harm.
72 posted on 03/27/2004 5:15:17 AM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: MNLDS

73 posted on 03/27/2004 5:21:30 AM PST by ChadGore (kwitchyurbellyakin or bailthehellout!)
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To: MNLDS

74 posted on 03/27/2004 5:22:15 AM PST by ChadGore (kwitchyurbellyakin or bailthehellout!)
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To: MNLDS
You can just tape a Hannity show and replay it over and over again. You won't notice a difference.



75 posted on 03/27/2004 5:32:28 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: MNLDS
"No amount of turbo-diplomacy can make the leadership of countries do what is not in their leadership's self-interest."
76 posted on 03/27/2004 6:00:43 AM PST by Thom Pain
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To: DLfromthedesert
"...NO American president would knowingly compromise the defense of our nation despite angering other countries."

Are you willing to bet all our lives on that? I would refer you to the Klintoons relationship with China and the transfer of technology to them. And the Leftist Kerry has tried repeatedly to geld our military/weapons.

77 posted on 03/27/2004 6:04:46 AM PST by Thom Pain
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To: MNLDS
I still enjoy Rush ... great sense of humor, but I agree with the rest of what you said. Hannity is great in person. He was in Tucson a couple of weeks ago and really know how to stir up a crowd, but his radio show is boring.
78 posted on 03/27/2004 6:34:26 AM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: Thom Pain
I guess I didn't make myself clear. I meant a DIRECT attack. Of course, by making us less powerful, they are leaving us open to attacks.

But they would be run out of town pretty quick if they did not defend a blatant direct attack on American soil like 9/11
79 posted on 03/27/2004 6:38:14 AM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: MNLDS
Have you read the book?

No, I'm sure it's great. I like everything she writes. And I wish we got her radio show here in the Philly area.
I just think the title of her book sounds silly.

80 posted on 03/27/2004 7:44:01 AM PST by Jorge
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