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Friends, What Friends? (Ingraham)
Sign Up for Laura's E-blast ^ | March 26, 2004 | Laura Ingraham

Posted on 03/26/2004 8:44:50 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day

Friends, What Friends?

Remember the first time you realized that someone you thought was a close friend became a distant one, or just dropped out of your life altogether? Sometimes you can't pinpoint exactly why a friendship changes, it just does. Sometimes you wake up one day and realize that your core beliefs were so different that the relationship never really was what you thought it was. When you see this old friend on the street you stop for a polite chat, ask about the kids, the job. Or perhaps you’ll meet for lunch every now and then, but it’s just not the same.

So goes our relationship with Europe.

This week Secretary of State Colin Powell flew to Madrid to meet with that country's incoming Socialist Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero. But the nice photo op notwithstanding, the trip was largely a bust. Powell was unsuccessful in getting the Zapatero, who ran as an anti-war/anti-Bush candidate, to change his mind about pulling Spanish troops out of Iraq unless the UN takes over.

Meanwhile, President Bush told French president Jacques Chirac that he will travel to Normandy on June 6th to mark the 60th anniversary of the D-Day invasion. This was heralded as a sign of "a thaw" in our frosty relations with France.

For his part, Sen. John Kerry -- who owned real estate in Italy's Lake Como until last year-- promises to rebuild the bridges to Europe that he charges were badly damaged by Pres. Bush's "arrogant, reckless foreign policy." The familiar Democrat refrain is that President Bush--with a "my-way-or-the-highway" approach to foreign policy-- squandered the goodwill that the world had bestowed on us post-September 11th. The cowboy didn’t kowtow. One can't help but conclude in a Kerry White House, there would be a full-court press to impress "the world."

But can any individual or any party significantly improve our relations with Europe?

It is conventional wisdom in some circles that Europe and the U.S. were much closer during the Clinton Administration. But this week that notion was blown out of the water by the 9/11 Commission testimony of former Clinton Secretary of State Madeline Albright and National Security Adviser Sandy Berger. When asked why the Clinton team hadn’t launched an aggressive military campaign against Afghanistan after the 1998 African embassy bombings, both said that such a move wouldn't have been supported by the "international community." Apparently, neither had even bothered to make the case to our European pals that the Taliban and al Qaeda needed to be taken out. What does that say about the state of the American-European relationship?

Our problems with Europe result from the fact that Europeans strongly believe two things: (1) Israel is in the wrong in the Middle East, and (2) the United States has too much power. No president, Democrat or Republican, is going to give in on either of those points. Not even John Kerry.

The time has come for us to move beyond this whole concept of "allies." The term implies a friendship that simply does not exist anymore.

In the 30s, 40s, and 50s, America and much of Europe joined together to fight Nazism, fascism, and communism. We set ourselves apart from much of the rest of the world through our common beliefs in capitalism and free speech. The crusade to bring those values to the rest of the world has been very successful while the fears that drew us together are gone.

This is not something to get apoplectic about. After the Revolutionary War, there was real tension between the U.S. and Britain (the War of 1812). But over time we came back together as allies in a new struggle. Ditto for our relationship with France in the 19th century.

As much as I like this column's opening analogy, anytime we start pretending that countries are like friends or family we are bound to be disappointed. Countries aren't people. There is no "family of nations." There is no "global community." To think otherwise is naïve. The world is a dangerous place where each country acts in its own interest. Poland joined the European Union not because they felt some close affinity with the French, but because they thought it was the best thing for the future of the Polish people. Tony Blair sent British forces to Iraq in part because he thought it was in Britain’s long term interest both to maintain an alliance with the U.S. and beat back a destabilizing force in the Middle East.

If John Kerry thinks that attending European conferences and pushing Congress to ratify more international accords is going to endear him to the Europeans, he's sorely mistaken. He'd have better luck wearing French cuffs and buying a residence in Provence.

During a Kerry Administration, France, Germany, and Spain would probably be less overtly hostile to American interests than they are now. But that doesn’t mean much else would change. A Kerry presidency won't compel Europe to invest more money or manpower in the war on terror in order to show its support for America. It won’t mean Europe will cease subsidizing companies like Airbus to the detriment of its American competitors. It won’t mean that Europe will back off ruling against American giants like Microsoft.

No amount of turbo-diplomacy can make countries do what is not in their self-interest. The time may come when Europe will take terrorism as seriously as we do. If that happens, we will be reunited with our European allies once again -- until the next time when what's good for America isn't good for Europe, or vice versa.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911commission; albright; allies; appeasement; bushdoctrine; diplomacy; enemies; europe; eurotrash; euroweenies; ingraham; lauraingraham; newnwo; sandyberger
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To: MNLDS
Well, they all sound good, and they sure will beat the UFO show and Phil Hendrie blather I get now.
41 posted on 03/26/2004 10:09:46 PM PST by jwalburg (Terrorists just need more counseling)
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To: MNLDS
For his part, Sen. John Kerry ...promises to rebuild the bridges to Europe...

...It is conventional wisdom in some circles that Europe and the U.S. were much closer during the Clinton Administration.

This has been remarked upon. The trouble is that this is tantamount to saying that the Europeans get to decide who our president is. "We'll be your friends if you elect who we say."

Lemme think about it, Pierre. I'll get back to you.

42 posted on 03/26/2004 10:09:57 PM PST by Starve The Beast (I used to be disgusted, but now I try to be amused)
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To: MNLDS
Hey! I've never read a Prager column before. He's good!
43 posted on 03/26/2004 10:10:40 PM PST by Starve The Beast (I used to be disgusted, but now I try to be amused)
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To: Starve The Beast
Yup. I love his columns. Read "Think a Second Time." Great, great book. Should be required reading in college.

Here's a link to some of Dennis' other columns:

http://www.dennisprager.com/column.html
44 posted on 03/26/2004 10:13:45 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day ("We are delighted that Pecker will be leading the way.")
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To: jwalburg
Ugh. I feel your pain. That X-Files tinfoil show makes me worry about our collective, national gene pool.

And what is the deal with that Phil Hendrie nonsense? I ignored him easily enough when I lived in Nashville, but now I hear him everywhere I go. I was just in Green Bay this week, and that's the only show I could pick up at night. The guy can't get real guests, so he invents weird, imaginary ones...and then his listeners call in to debate/insult them? Am I missing something here?
45 posted on 03/26/2004 10:17:45 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day ("We are delighted that Pecker will be leading the way.")
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To: MNLDS
how bout posting the pic of Laura from the NYT Magazine cover in the leopard-skin skirt?
46 posted on 03/26/2004 10:23:21 PM PST by isom35
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To: MNLDS
I agree. But no matter how many straw guests he sets up, callers still call and take him seriously. I tired of Bruce Williams years ago, just because he is kind of boring, and he's the only other evening talk show we have here. Now we have Ed Schultz in the day time and I get all the Fargo city politics updates. I can't see how that show will ever get beyond the Upper Midwest. Thanks again for the links. They will sure help.
47 posted on 03/26/2004 10:24:08 PM PST by jwalburg (Terrorists just need more counseling)
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To: isom35
I've never seen it. Do you have a link?
48 posted on 03/26/2004 10:36:02 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day ("We are delighted that Pecker will be leading the way.")
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To: MNLDS
Memo to John Kerry: WE DON'T WANT TO PARTNERS WITH EUROPE! Europe is the center of decay in the West. Our ancestors (the ancestors of most of us, that is) LEFT Europe to get away from its social, political, and secular rot!

If we want to do what is right in the world, watch Europe, and do exactly the opposite!

49 posted on 03/26/2004 10:45:33 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: LADY J
Laura's great -- clear thinking, strong convictions, articulate, funny -- but I also like Lee and Matt on her show. Whenever they play the latest outrage quote from some lefty, Lee and Matt crack up. It's hilarious.
50 posted on 03/26/2004 10:47:16 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: My2Cents
I do miss Kevin--the former engineer, before Matt. But you're right, it's obvious they're having fun. There's a great deal of good-natured ribbing going on in the studio.

And Lee's musical tastes help the show tremendously. Jayhawks, BoDeans, Johnny Cash, Lucinda Williams, etc.
51 posted on 03/26/2004 10:51:08 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day ("We are delighted that Pecker will be leading the way.")
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To: MNLDS
Yes, Lee is quite eclectic in his music tastes. Great stuff.

Plus, while Laura can eviscerate some leftist toad like gutting a fish, Lee and Matt devastate the pompous lefties in one of the most effective ways possible....by laughing at them.

52 posted on 03/26/2004 10:54:33 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: MNLDS
I dont, and I have searched. I work for the local library, so I'll go and see if I can borrow the issue (in bound form I'm sure) and scan the image and post it. I think it was feb something 1995
53 posted on 03/26/2004 10:57:44 PM PST by isom35
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To: isom35
Try June 15, 1997. I think that was the issue where Laura and other MSNBC young rising stars were featured.

I couldn't find a photo online, either.
54 posted on 03/26/2004 11:00:43 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day ("We are delighted that Pecker will be leading the way.")
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To: MNLDS
Something about Ingraham just strikes me as wrong. I don't quite know what it is though.

I'll occasionally switch over to her if I'm driving and Savage starts into his all-too-frequent screaming rages.

I did that tonight and she was pounding some liberal to pieces. Not that I mind that she pounds on liberals, it's just that I don't need to have to listen to their lies in the meantime.

Plus there's something else, intangible, that bugs me about her personality.

Maybe I'm just a Coutler-mo. Coulter seems like less of a B_tch, just as smart, prettier in my opinion, and, if you're not an enemy (liberal), a nicer lady.

55 posted on 03/26/2004 11:08:31 PM PST by benjaminjjones
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To: LADY J
THANKS!
56 posted on 03/26/2004 11:09:26 PM PST by SWake ("Estrada was savaged by liars and abandoned by cowards." Mark Davis, WBAP, 09/09/2003)
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To: MNLDS
By the way, I love it when they prevail upon Laura to pull some little stunt or joke (like putting in Elmer Fudd's voice right after a quote from Charles Rangel), and then Laura ridicules them saying, "I knew this was a dumb idea," while the other two laugh in the background. They're like a couple of college guys.
57 posted on 03/26/2004 11:14:28 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: Keith
How has she remained single?

Good question.
My naive speculation is that she's just too busy, dedicated to her work...
and there might be a religional aspect as she started talking recently about being
active as a Roman Catholic (I don't know if this was a new conversion or a
"return to the fold" experience).

IIRC, she and Lindsay Graham (of South Carolina) were rumored to be a number for awhile.

Of course, it could just be a matter of personal choice...or maybe she's like
some otherwise wonderful, likable professional women I've met: can't leave work
to come home.
A lady university professor I used to know...her husband (also a professor) had to
FORCE her to take two weeks off each summer.
58 posted on 03/26/2004 11:16:11 PM PST by VOA
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To: benjaminjjones
What it is, I think, is that Laura is "catty" (my brother calls it "bitchy"), particularly when she's talking about Hillary, or some other fem-pol.
59 posted on 03/26/2004 11:16:51 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: benjaminjjones
To each his own. I find Coulter to be gaunt and emaciated, not hot. While sarcastic and acerbic, Ann's penchant for hyperbole sometimes gets her carried away, and she comes across as a cartoon character.

I find Laura to be more down-to-earth. As I said, to each his own.
60 posted on 03/26/2004 11:18:33 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day ("We are delighted that Pecker will be leading the way.")
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