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Solana hits back after stormy Kosovo trip
AFP via Yahoo ^ | Thu Mar 25, 9:54 AM ET | AFP staff

Posted on 03/26/2004 6:39:48 AM PST by wonders

BRUSSELS (AFP) - EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana hit back at criticism from Serbs after violent riots erupted in Kosovo, saying the international community was not to blame for the flare-up.

Solana, speaking a day after he was jeered by displaced Serbs during a visit to the UN-run province, said: "I would not say that it is a failure of strategy of the European Union (news - web sites).

"I think it is a failure of the behavior of the people of Kosovo. We are not responsible for the behavior of the people of Kosovo," he told reporters.

"We have expended capital on Kosovo more than any other place in the world. The blame should not be put on the international community. I think the blame has to be placed on the people who have not been able to organize themselves."

During a visit to Kosovo Wednesday, Solana faced abuse by displaced Serbs demanding to know why the international community did not intervene until well after the three-day rampage by the ethnic Albanian majority began.

On Thursday, he accused local political leaders of exploiting the Albanian mobs to their own advantage.

"(The violence) was not completely spontaneous. There were already a lot of people organized to take advantage of that moment of spontaneity," he said, speaking shortly before the start of an EU summit.

"That is something which is very serious because those people who were already organized probably belong to a political party with heavy responsibilities. The leaders of that party have to come out and say very clearly and very strongly that this is not possible," he said.

The violence, which erupted on March 17, killed 28 people and left a trail of destruction through Serb areas of Kosovo. Thirty Serb churches and monasteries were torched, seven villages were razed and 3,600 people were made homeless.

Kosovo has been a United Nations (news - web sites) protectorate since 1999, when NATO (news - web sites) jets bombed Serbian forces to end a crackdown on the province's separatist ethnic Albanian majority.


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This is too funny!

"We have expended capital on Kosovo more than any other place in the world.

Well, sir, you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, no matter how many euros you spend on it.

I think the blame has to be placed on the people who have not been able to organize themselves."

Organize themselves??? Looks like they organized themselves pretty well a few days ago. Oh, yeah, he realizes that. A few paragraphs later:

There were already a lot of people organized to take advantage of that moment of spontaneity," he said.

Hmm. I guess they weren't organized enough or something.

"That is something which is very serious because those people who were already organized probably belong to a political party with heavy responsibilities. The leaders of that party have to come out and say very clearly and very strongly that this is not possible," he said.

Now that's telling them! Hey, very clearly and strongly WHAT is not possible? That they have heavy responsibilities?

1 posted on 03/26/2004 6:39:48 AM PST by wonders
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To: *balkans
*balkans lunacy bump
2 posted on 03/26/2004 6:40:21 AM PST by wonders (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: wonders
"There were already a lot of people organized to take advantage of that moment of spontaneity,"

How do you organise for something that is spontaneous?
3 posted on 03/26/2004 6:51:11 AM PST by Redcoat LI ("help to drive the left one into the insanity.")
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To: wonders
["I think it is a failure of the behavior of the people of Kosovo. We are not responsible for the behavior of the people of Kosovo,"]

Okay, fine.
Then let us send the Serb military in to control the "behavioral" problems.

4 posted on 03/26/2004 7:21:47 AM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: wonders
Apparently the French and Germans looked the other way as churches were burned. Some of them were appreciative of the Albanians burning the churches.

It was the Italians, Greeks, and Czechs who acted with integrity, and many of them were hurt in the process.

5 posted on 03/26/2004 7:39:09 AM PST by MarMema (Next Year in Constantinople!)
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic
Come here
6 posted on 03/26/2004 7:40:38 AM PST by MarMema (Next Year in Constantinople!)
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To: MarMema
There was also the Danish soldier who was killed by the Albanian sniper.
7 posted on 03/26/2004 8:09:58 AM PST by wonders (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: Redcoat LI; LjubivojeRadosavljevic; MarMema
A related story from Reuters:


Solana Says Kosovo Albanian Parties Need Purging
Thu Mar 25, 8:49 AM ET

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - Kosovo Albanian political parties must purge themselves of extremists suspected of helping to direct anti-Serb violence that rocked the U.N. protectorate last week, the EU's foreign policy chief said on Thursday.

Javier Solana told reporters in Brussels he could not "give names and addresses" of who was responsible, but intelligence showed certain groups had laid plans to take advantage of the first spark of trouble.

Riots broke out and 28 people died after three Albanian boys drowned in unexplained circumstances, but NATO (news - web sites) peacekeepers and U.N. police were stunned by how quickly the violence spread and later concluded it was orchestrated by Albanian extremists.

"It was not completely spontaneous," Solana said, a day after he held talks in Pristina on Wednesday with Kosovo Albanian leaders.

"That is...very serious because those people who were already organized probably belonged to political parties which have responsibilities.

"And the leaders of those parties have to come out and say very clearly...and very strongly that this is not possible."

Albanians want independence for Kosovo from Serbia. The European Union (news - web sites) is the main source of aid for the impoverished province, where the unemployment rate is 50 percent.

Together with the United Nations (news - web sites) and the United States, the EU will decide whether Kosovo has met democratic standards before determining its final status.

Serbia says the major powers have finally woken up to the fact that hardline elements among Kosovo Albanians who were rescued from a harsh Serb crackdown in 1999 by NATO bombing could threaten U.N. and NATO personnel.

A U.N. policeman and his Kosovo Albanian partner were shot dead late Tuesday in an ambush -- the first peacemakers to die since Kosovo's new wave of violence erupted a week earlier.


Gee, I wonder who these "certain groups" could be? Teehee.

And notice how the boys who had once been reported as "driven into the river by Serb men" or "a Serb man" or "a Serb dog" or "Serb children" (depending on which version one was reading) are now reported as having "drowned in unexplained circumstances."

Also notice, in the orginal AFP article posted above: "NATO jets bombed Serbian forces to end a crackdown on the province's separatist ethnic Albanian majority."

It's no longer "genocide" or "ethnic cleansing" nor even a "brutal crackdown." It's just a "harsh crackdown" or even plain old "crackdown" now.

And has anyone else noticed how the media no longer calls them "Kosovars" or even "Kosovar Albanians" or "ethnic Albanians"? Now they're just "Albanians".

Things that make you go "hmm."
8 posted on 03/26/2004 8:29:45 AM PST by wonders (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: wonders
hmmm, indeed. Always read last two paragraphs first, to see the inserted guideline.

And guideline indeed changes. Kosovo is regularly called Serbian province. Population figures are reduced to 1,800,000 from 2 mil. Big lie shrinks gradually.

There is undclared war going on down there. Two UN police officers, one from Ghana, one from Phillipines were assasinated. Albanians have took weapons to the street and showed they are not disarmed.

NATO is now in the same position as Milosevic in 1996 and follows the same tactics of doing nothing and hoping the problem will go away by itself. It won't. It will get worse. Media reports only encourage terrorists and their sympathizers (majority of population)

9 posted on 03/26/2004 9:03:08 AM PST by DTA (feja e shqiptarit eshte terorizm)
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To: wonders
Serbian Foreign Minister said yesterday that Germany has blocked strong worded statement from UN Security Council blaming Albanians for break of violence. He went further claiming that Germany supports Kosovo secession from Serbia, and works on it behind the scene. Any clue why?
10 posted on 03/26/2004 10:03:56 AM PST by starys
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To: starys; longjack
Well, not being privy to what was said, I just don't know. If he actually blocked the strongly-worded statement, perhaps it was because Germany so strongly supported the 1999 bombing campaign and because of Germany's Muslim minority?

The independence issue is another matter. Holbrooke is braying for independence as well. What do Fischer and Holbrooke have in common? Many lies concerning Kosovo were told by the US and by German governments in 1999. But I really don't think that's all there is to it.

I read the German press some, but I'm really not all that up on German politics. Maybe you can help out longjack?
11 posted on 03/26/2004 1:40:57 PM PST by wonders (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: wonders; starys
These are from ERP-KIM news.

"Serbian Orthodox Diocese is shocked by absence of any attempt on the part of the German army to protect a single Orthodox Christian site in Prizren. While their colleagues in other contingents were risking their own lives Germans in Prizren let the mob burn the churches, destroy frescoes and loot the Church valuables. Regrettably, two Germans: KFOR Commander Holger Kammerhof and the chief of UNMIK police Stephan Feller (nicknamed Mr. Fehler) are among the most responsible international officials for such terrible outcome of the last week's pogrom and the Church will insist on their resignation and leaving of the German contingent from Kosovo completely."

"The Diocese of Raska-Prizren and Kosovo-Metohija received painful and shocking news today from Abbot Herman Vucicevic and priest-monk Benedict Preradovic of Holy Archangels Monastery who met today with the German military commander in Prizren, Colonel Hintelmann. The monks asked Hintelman to enable their return to the ruins of Holy Archangels as soon as possible, saying they would stay under a tent at first and restore the monastery itself over time. Colonel Hintelmann categorically stated that return is impossible "for security reasons", adding that if the monks should try to return on their own "before a political agreement is reached, they will be stopped by force".

"The Archangels monks informed the Diocese that the behavior of German KFOR is unprecedented and that the ERP KIM Info Service will soon publish a detailed report how German soldiers observed indifferently as Albanian rioters set fire to Holy Archangels and danced on the very tomb of the Holy King Dusan."

"Fr. Sava Janjic, the editor in chief of the ERP KIM Info Service, personally spoke by phone today with Verica Grigorijevic, one of the 35-odd Serbs evacuated from Potkaljaje, the Serb quarter of Prizren completely burned by Albanian mob last week, who are presently lodged in a building on the German military base in Prizren. Mrs. Grigorijevic stated that many of the present Serbs are shaken and in a deep state of shock as a result of the terror they survived. Some of them were beaten by the Albanian crowd. Several of them are in very serious psychological condition. The Germans are giving them food and drink but people's minds are elsewhere, she said. Mrs.Grigorijevic informed Fr. Sava that today at about 15:30 a Roman Catholic priest arrived in the building where the Serbs are lodged without any invitation by them and told them he would SERVE MASS. Some Serbs asked why they did not allow their priests to come and serve them an Orthodox Christian service, but the Germans insisted that the R. Catholic mass should be served. The Serbs were asked to hold candles in their hands and at the end of the service the Catholic priest gave several of the elderly Serbs who are serious psychological condition Roman Catholic communion (wafers). Some of the Serbs refused to take this communion, horrified that they were being forcibly converted to a different faith, even though Orthodox monks and priest-monks from Holy Archangels are only five kilometers away from them but are being denied the right to visit their faithful people even though they have asked to do so. Weeping, Mrs. Grigorijevic reported this sad news with the request that Bishop Artemije and the Patriarchate in Belgrade be informed. The Diocese most strongly condemns this scandalous action of BLATANT PROSELYTISM on the part of the German military Roman Catholic priest and appeals for the evacuation of all remaining Orthodox Serbs from the base of the German soldiers whose behavior in the past and in this latest provocation have evoked the most difficult memories from World War II when Roman Catholic priests (in Croatia) took advantage of the suffering of the Serbs and pulled them out from under Ustashe Nazi knives in order to forcibly give their communion under the pretext of saving their lives. Forcible communion represents one of the most horrible examples of violence against religious freedom."

I will be certain to add here that two very Roman Catholic countries, Czechoslovakia and Italy, have been most honorable and shown great courage in protecting the Serbs. This is not an anti-Catholic post.

12 posted on 03/26/2004 2:14:18 PM PST by MarMema (Next Year in Constantinople!)
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To: wonders
Here's something in English to start with:

Deutsche Welle (03/19/04)....NATO Peacekeepers in Action in Kosovo

This was a week (3/19) ago. I'll do a little searching around to see if I can find something more detailed. Reading between the lines in the article above it seems like the familiar Russia-Serbia / Rest of the World standoff.

longjack

13 posted on 03/26/2004 2:40:51 PM PST by longjack
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To: wonders
OK:

I found this commentary on the "Die Welt" site. I translated this, however, since the article is on a (free) members only page, you'll have to take my word on the fact that my translation mirrors the original German. Unless you're a (free) member, of course.

I found this commentary typical, somehow. Funny in a (real) sad way. I can actually visualize groups of people at the Stammtisch sanctimoniously parroting this same line.

After reading this you should understand the German perspective of the Kosovo situation, and that anything written previously about German behavior there is most likely accurate.

Here we go:


Robbers' Dens

by Ulrich Clauss

Much speaks for the fact that the representatives of the United Nations in Kosovo are correct in their assessment that the murders of two UN policemen aren't directly connected with the most recent ethnic disturbances. Whoever is at the wrong place at the wrong time in Kosovo, even with an UN insignia on the hood, is just as less sure of his life as those on the Mitrovica Bridge where Serbian and Albanian hotheads went at each other to the hilt. Despite the still deep trenches between the ethnic parties in the region, devastated by three Balkan wars, the inhabitants have one thing is common, involvement in the rampant organized crime. The unresolved status of Kosovo, namely, has attracted every flavor of bandit and fortune hunter. With little fanfare the German Military has taken on the organized crime in Prizren with great skill. Their reports make your hair stand on end. Of course, as long as the European Union believes the question of Kosovo's status has to hang in the balance, little improvement, from a political order perspective, can be expected. Particularly, also, since one hears less about Kosovo as the hotbed of a European-wide network of organized crime than they do of the occasional flaring up of ethnic disturbances accompanied with a great deal of political bellowing. Drug pushers there are a danger for all of Southern Europe - and the terror-mafia there, as well.

As long as the status of Kosovo is not defined clearly, none of the problems there can be solved, because the authority questions are only provisionally in place and no tough security structures have been established. If Europe doesn't act soon, not only will the ethnic conflicts there increase again, but Kosovo and adjacent regions will definitely degenerate into the robbers' dens of South-eastern Europe, as well.

"Die Welt"..Commentary....Räuberhöhle

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Tranlated by longjack

14 posted on 03/26/2004 3:53:42 PM PST by longjack
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To: longjack; starys; MarMema; Wraith; getoffmylawn; vooch; kosta50; DTA
Wow, longjack, you're my hero! (Blowing lots of grateful kisses) Thank you so much for taking all the time and trouble to dig up and translate for us *balkanites. I really, really appreciate it! The subject also happens to be of great personal interest to me, and you've helped me enormously.






15 posted on 03/26/2004 5:14:08 PM PST by wonders (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: wonders
You're welcome :>)

longjack

16 posted on 03/26/2004 5:25:05 PM PST by longjack
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To: MarMema
Ack! That is deeply disturbing, MarMema. I am shocked.
17 posted on 03/26/2004 5:57:16 PM PST by wonders (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: wonders
Just to elaborate, I spent some time in Germany. I can actually understand what they are seeing. A German I spoke with at great length informed me with much arrogance of his view of the world.

Americans are fat and stupid and hedonistic. They never bother to learn a second language while most Europeans speak 3 even.

Russians are nice people but poor and stupid peasants who are superstitious. He said, and I can still hear him saying this today - "The Russians will never get anywhere".

The Russians and Serbs and the Orthodox church, because we resist westernization, because we skipped the Renaissance and had no Reformation, are considered backward.

Because we rely on a view of Christianity which emphasizes the soul, the heart, and a mystical personal communion with God, rather than rational, logical approaches ( which we actually deny as useful when it comes to knowing God), we are seen as ignorant.

So I truly believe in my heart that the Germans ( just as the rest of those who attempted to convert us, at times by the sword in the past) are just trying to lift we ignorant, superstitious peoples out of our backward swamp. But to stand by as ancient buildings were destroyed was unthinkable, and for that I can offer no excuse.

18 posted on 03/27/2004 1:28:16 AM PST by MarMema (Next Year in Constantinople!)
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Thank's a lot for a search and comments. I could see rationale in Germans trying to reduce drug and human trafficking, crime that comes from Kosovo Albanian gangs.

However, the intended solution does not appear appropriate - to take Kosovo from Serbs and give it to Albanians. US former goverment, Germans, and rest of the Europe jumped willingly into the whole mess in 1999, and contributed to it significantly. Now they should clean it up on their own expenses, not on expenses of Serbian people.
19 posted on 03/27/2004 8:22:40 AM PST by starys
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To: starys
The commentary I translated irritated me for the reason that the author made the blanket statement that both sides were guilty in the organized crime wave, thus no one should point fingers.

I, in my perhaps naive logic, would ask if the organized crime problem had always existed in Kosovo.

If the answer to that is false, then I would ask when it started.

If there were any conspicuous events that coincided with the start of the lawlessness (such as the influx of refugees with a history of such behavior in their land of origin), I would re-consider any blanket statements as to who was causing what.

There were German cities, at least in Rheinland-Pfalz, already complaining about law and order problems with their Albanian refugees in the late 90's 'fer crissakes. The author of the "Die Welt" commentary might as well be smoking what the Albanians have to offer if he doesn't know that.

I'm trying letting off a little steam, here. If I'm completely wrong about this, I wouldn't mind being told that, it may make me calm down a little.

longjack

20 posted on 03/27/2004 8:46:22 AM PST by longjack
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