There is NO DEAL says, Arnold Schwarzenegger!

www.ktkz.com | March 23, 2004 | Eric Hogue

[Eric Hogue 1380 KTKZ]

News from the "Belly of the Beast", the Governor's office is reporting that there is "NO DEAL" with Gil Cedillo on SB1160. I have confirmed reports that Arnold has NOT agreed to anything...and what he has mentioned as a possibility is too strict for the taste and liking of Cedillo and the Democrats.

Plus...there was a report that 12 Republicans were ready to sign this 'piece of legislation' (that never was/is)...well I discivered today that the truth is...the Democrats don't have enough votes to bring this (if it was an authentic committee draft, it's not!) to a count in the Assembly. They have a majority and they can't bring themselves to face another defeat on an issue like this!

I hate to say I told you so...but...

Now, stop supporting the Democrats 'attack Arnold' campaign, as well as their effort to eat at the conservative vote in the GOP for California. They have a problem with passion surrounding John Kerry - Don't let them create appathy for the GOP vote.

Stop carrying the water for Gil Cedillo, Art Torres, Fabian Nunez and John Burton! Support the new administration and its goal, while supporting Bush for '04 in California!

I'm a believer, are you?

[WilliamofCarmichael]

RE: "If we just sat quietly, hoping. . . ."

Why bother with reason. The mainstream Republicans have mastered the liberals' patented ad hominen attacks. You'll get very little discourse from them. Not as bad as dem Rats yet, but they're gaining.

I heard a few minutes of Mr. Hogue's program. We are too dumb to understand that dem Rats are using us, you see.

[seastay]

Since 1949, when the United Nations sanctioned its use, the International Driver's License (IDL) has allowed International Travelers to drive freely throughout the world. The bill to give a state drivers license to any foreign national as visitor to California is not in not logic with international customs, the proper document for these drivers is the IDL. Why doesn't the rest of the world have a problem with its visitors? Because they use what is called a passport! Its Ironic that the same people who promote the UN as the ultimate authority, including all the Dems in the CA legislator and the government of Mexico (whom did not support the US in Iraq), these are the same folks that don't want to follow international law when it comes to passports and IDLs!

[Columbine]

I've been hearing about this "plot" between the governor, the Republican senators and Cedillo for days and all of it spread by conservatives.

If it really isn't true, as this talk show host says, then what are we to think?

Why should we believe the next conspiracy theory that is spread?

[Republic Rocker]

arnold brought a EARTHQUAKE to Gray Davis...Can he help Bring about a California REVOLUTION for GWB in 04....?

[onyx]

Shhh. Don't argue with the patients.

LOL! Thank you!

If he thinks he's Marshall Dillon, let him be Marshall Dillon. Nothing is going to change and Arnold will continue to do what he said he would do.

Well, dang me, dang me, so long as Marshall Dillon don't hang me. :)

[onyx]

Mainstream Republicans.

That's a nice way of putting it. Thank you.

[onyx]

I "almost" feel bad for cutting out to Mississippi on yall.
Emphasis on "almost."

[South40]

If he thinks he's Marshall Dillon, let him be Marshall Dillon.

Marshall Dillon?

More like Chief Bromden.

[WilliamofCarmichael]

RE: Why should we believe the next conspiracy theory that is spread?

The best way to understand this "conspiracy theory" is for you to hear the Governor himself say it at the Sacramento Press Club lunch. He was responding to a question from a Hispanic reporter for Channel 19. I threw my TV away ten years ago and have not watched TV since. I do not know the current status of local TV but I think Ch 19 is Telemondo or something like that.

Otherwise, here is a link to some Freep threads that discuss the matter from all angles.

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/k-sb60/browse

I will quote from one of the threads' articles by everybody's favorite. One of the best and brightest Sacramento Bee brains, Daniel Weintraub

Now that SB 60, the illegal immigrants' drivers license bill, is about to be repealed, speculation shifts to exactly what Schwarzenegger envisions as the next move on this issue. He has said since the campaign that he was open to some sort of compromise. In an interview Monday with Univision 19 anchor Pablo Espinoza, the governor suggests that he will agree to legislation giving illegal immigrants licenses as long as they are able to show proof of insurance, undergo background checks and have their digital fingerprints recorded. Here is a transcript of the interview provided by the station:

Reporter: "You did say that to me when we talked one on one (Sept. 6, 2003) that you would consider a package deal that would have included a requirement of insurance for those people that are going to get the drivers license. That I know is something that you believe in. Do you also believe that all undocumented immigrants will be able to get a drivers license if they present insurance, if they have a background check, fingerprints?

Governor: "Absolutely...yes. This is what we are going to work on. This is what we are going to talk about, but right now the most important thing is to get this passed (the repeal of SB 60) so we can move to other issues. I think Senator Cedillo was extremely gracious and helpful with this whole thing. He is a great leader, he understood what would be the best thing for California; rather than just doing an immediate fix, but to make everybody happy. It doesn't make sense if the majority of Californians run around and hate the idea of undocumented immigrants having drivers licenses because there is no background check, because it doesn't solve the problem with insurance. Let's do it the right way, let's make every Californian happy and let's make the undocumented immigrants happy." [end extensive excerpt]

Note the reference to "background checks and have their digital fingerprints." IMO that will increase the license fees for everyone by two or three times, I bet. That has been cost estimates in the past.

[WilliamofCarmichael]

RE: Why should we believe the next conspiracy theory that is spread?

continued

So in my mind the ""NO DEAL" with Gil Cedillo on SB1160" issue is like one of them stupid liberal tricks -- or, perhaps the "meaning of is" gambit.

Either way, it's silly. Fact is, the governor has stated clearly that he is open to a deal.

No amount of personal attacks are going to keep Americans from expressing an opinion on this most ciritcal (IMO) issue.

[Sabertooth]

I'm a believer, are you?

No.

From your own post:

I have confirmed reports that Arnold has NOT agreed to anything...and what he has mentioned as a possibility is too strict for the taste and liking of Cedillo and the Democrats.

Need more?

Schwarzenegger criticized Davis for signing a bill granting driver's licenses to undocumented immigrants, saying, "We're leaving ourselves wide open to terrorism." And he repeated his support for a guest-worker visa program -- "then they can (get) driver's licenses hooked together with insurance."
Sacramento Bee - September 9th, 2003

Schwarzenegger said he opposed the bill because it would "bring danger to our state" because it doesn't require background checks of illegal immigrants.

He did, however, say he supported proposed federal legislation that would help those in the United States illegally become legal residents more quickly.
Sacramento Bee - September 17th, 2003

Why does Schwarzenegger consistently leave the door open for CDLs for Illegals?

[onyx]

Saber, try this thread. You'll feel better.

[onyx]

LOL! New computer is so fast, it didn't let me stop the post.

I forgot to add the link to the thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1103931/posts

[BibChr]

Excellent.

As many of you know, Eric's got excellent creds. Eric's show birthed the recall. While some here were happy enough being Bustamante/Davis' only and best hope, Eric was a very active supporter and promoter of the dethroning and replacement of Davis. His show is a bright spot in a dark town; I listen and enjoy every day.

(You can hear it on www.ktkz.com, M-F, 5-9 am. You'll be glad you did!)

Dan

[Sabertooth]

In the matter of DLs for illegals?
No, I don't see activism as the force behind the GOP senators' position.
The public at large hates the very idea.
To me, this is a no-brainer.

Assemblyman John Campbell was on the John and Ken Show last week (maybe the week before), and was asked about SB 1160. He said he would oppose it, and didn't think there were enough Republicans to pass it.

He said there would have been last year, because the Pubbies in the Assembly and State Senate had no idea how strongly the voters were opposed to any kind of CDL for Illegals.

What changed between last year and this year?

[onyx]

BUMP!
Good to *see* you Dan.

[Southack]

I've heard worse...

[onyx]

What changed between last year and this year?

The successful recall of Gray Doofus and the election of Governor Arnold by a landslide.

[Sabertooth]

The successful recall of Gray Doofus and the election of Governor Arnold by a landslide.

More than either of those, with regard to the CDLs for Illegals, was the qualification of the Save Our License referendum.

The politicos realied that the "Proposition #187 backlash" was just wolf-crying spin, and that Illegals are wildly unpopular among the electorate.

[onyx]

I think it's a combination of a lot of factors; chiefly because the very idea of granting DLs to illegals just doesn't sit right with most folks. Moter Voter is the cincher, I believe. Give 'em DLs and they get to vote. That is the reason the democrats want to give them CA DLs.