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Man Who Killed Armed Intruder Jailed Eight Years
News.Scotsman.com ^ | March 23, 2004 | Will Batchelor

Posted on 03/23/2004 12:02:50 PM PST by Travis McGee

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To: Travis McGee
It scares me to think what he might've got had he used a gun.
21 posted on 03/23/2004 12:25:38 PM PST by cwb (Kerry: The only person who could make Bill Clinton look like a moderate.)
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To: Travis McGee
"12 inch sword"

Sword? That's a knife..

22 posted on 03/23/2004 12:26:50 PM PST by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: Travis McGee
Scotland obviously is not a civilized country.
23 posted on 03/23/2004 12:27:01 PM PST by Agnes Heep (Solus cum sola non cogitabuntur orare pater noster)
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To: Travis McGee
William Wallace would be proud..
24 posted on 03/23/2004 12:28:10 PM PST by waverna (I shall do neither. I have killed my captain...and my friend.)
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To: Travis McGee
I florida, which you guys like to make fun of, the homeowner would have been a hero, and the three surviving perps would be on death row for participating in a felony that resulted in a death.
25 posted on 03/23/2004 12:32:05 PM PST by js1138
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To: Travis McGee
English citizens having to defend themselves with swords because they do not have a right to posses firearms. Let's hope this never happens in America.
I wonder if the punishment would be worse if he had killed the intruder with a firearm he legally owned? Look for new legislation in England to ban swords.
26 posted on 03/23/2004 12:32:29 PM PST by Jeeper (Virginia is for Jeeper's)
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To: Travis McGee
When the state takes away the God given right of self defense from honest citizens...

Then that state is no longer legitimate and the power of that state stolen from its citizens needs to be taken back

We did it in 17776

IMO
27 posted on 03/23/2004 12:33:12 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Travis McGee
A Clockwork Orange....
28 posted on 03/23/2004 12:51:48 PM PST by ambrose ("I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it" - John F. al-Query)
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To: GrandEagle
As John Wayne would say, "Yup."
29 posted on 03/23/2004 12:58:01 PM PST by Twinkie
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To: vpintheak
"We better pray that this does not happen here in the Good old USA."

There would be a revolution within 24 hours of such a law getting on the books. No, I take that back: There would be a revolution if the congress-critters even DISCUSSED puting such a travesty of the books. Congress would be taken over and occupied posthaste. Sic Semper Tyrannis!
30 posted on 03/23/2004 12:58:22 PM PST by ought-six
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To: Space Wrangler
"What a travesty that this guy is charged with murder, and the accomplices that helped to get their partner in crime killed walk free."

Apparently crime does pay in England. If there was ever a population who deserve to be robbed, raped and murdered it is the English. If I was a criminal I would be over there right now relieving the weenies of their cash and valuables.
31 posted on 03/23/2004 12:58:54 PM PST by monday
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To: joesnuffy
"When the state takes away the God given right of self defense from honest citizens.... Then that state is no longer legitimate and the power of that state stolen from its citizens needs to be taken back. We did it in 1776."

Yup.
32 posted on 03/23/2004 1:00:28 PM PST by ought-six
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To: Travis McGee
I'm not clear on this but was the robber killed inside the home or outside? Also, what prison terms did the other three guys get?
33 posted on 03/23/2004 1:01:37 PM PST by John123 (A proud member of the most crooked, you know, lying group you've ever seen)
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To: Travis McGee
Sorry excuse for justice they do over there.
34 posted on 03/23/2004 1:02:44 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Drammach
"12 inch sword"
Sword? That's a knife.."

and not a very big one. sheesh... the English really are a bunch of wanking pansies aren't they?
35 posted on 03/23/2004 1:04:36 PM PST by monday
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To: Travis McGee
So this is saying that this was over a "drug deal gone sour?"
36 posted on 03/23/2004 1:06:13 PM PST by johnb838 (Kerry: Wrong on Defense, Wrong on Taxes. Repeat as necessary.)
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To: monday
Yes, I wonder how long the common folk will put up with this left wing madness? Do you think they are so beaten down that they have just given up? The exact same thing happened a couple fo years ago where a farmer living in a rural area shot and killed a robber, and he was arrested, sent to prison, and all of his assets transferred to the robbers survivors through the courts. Sheer madness.
37 posted on 03/23/2004 1:08:25 PM PST by Space Wrangler
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Imagine how badly things could have gone in Australia, where swords are illegal.

I'm sure swords are illegal in UK, too. Even most of the knives many Americans like to collect are illegal over there, a Bowie, for instance.

38 posted on 03/23/2004 1:33:34 PM PST by Restorer
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To: dennisw
What I can't find in any of the above is whether or not any sort of jury was involved....that would compound the idiocy of this situation.
39 posted on 03/23/2004 1:42:30 PM PST by ErnBatavia (Gay marriage is for suckers...)
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To: Travis McGee; David Hunter
When the gang tried to rob him he grabbed a samurai sword and stabbed one of them, 37-year-old Stephen Swindells, four times.

That's ridiculous. Why doesn't the Conservative party run on a platform to pardon everyone convicted of using deadly or disproportionate force in self-defense? Who issues pardons in the UK?

40 posted on 03/23/2004 2:04:20 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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