YES!! Limbaugh discussing Kerry and the plot in Kansas City

Rush | 3-23-04 | dfu

[doug from upland]

Yes!! Limbaugh finally discussing the plot in Kansas City in 1971 to assassinate U.S. senators. Kerry has been lying. The door has now been opened. It is about time this has been on Rush's show.

[doug from upland]

Randy Barnes?

[doug from upland]

Randy Barnes in Nicosia's "Home from War" --

According to Barnes, everybody knew that the discussion in that hall "was grounds for criminal indictment of conspiracy."

[Bonaparte]

Lots of things could go pop, sbg. His former co-conspirators at VVAW (or his crew from VN) could disappear or suffer memory loss or change their stories or go insane. But without massive, unrelenting pressure on the networks and the NYT/WP/LAT, it's doubtful the ball will get to the endzone.

[Eva]

I read somewhere, today, that the pages exonerating Kerry were picked from twelve boxes of reports. So, one agent was not convinced that Kerry was a bad guy. What was in the other boxes? Not only that was this agent even present at the meeting, was he even privy to what went on at that meeting. There's a disconnect here somewhere and I think that it's intentional.

[prairiebreeze]

Yes, Barnes.

[spycatcher]

Whoa, check this out from the Gibson segment:

"...The vet said Kerry didn't like the plan and loudly argued against it. He thereby accidentally proved that Kerry was there at the meeting, and that he (the vet Gibson was interviewing) was not telling the truth when he said he did not recall Kerry being at the meeting at all. He did recall Kerry's presence enough to remember details about the argument, he just lied about it when asked directly earlier in the inverview."

[Toespi]

You are preaching to the choir! Excellent points so express it to the media.

[madison10]

Does anyone think that Kerry may have been the FBI mole within VVAW?

Nope. I think he was there because he truly believed in the causes of VVAW...all of them.

[doug from upland]

Wow. Thanks for posting that!

[savedbygrace]

Nearly every day, Granny used to tell me, "Nothing ventured, nothing gained."

[prairiebreeze]

LOL, I swear we get so used to the RATS deception that we don't easily recognize it sometimes. Of course he did just that....!

Prairie

[Bonaparte]

Granny was wise.

Did she also tell you, "If it's worth doing at all, it's worth doing well"?

[spycatcher]

Scroll down too. A lot more "Kerry in KC" coverage from that Junkyard Blog website. Glad to see the weblogs are starting to hammer this story harder.

[Bonaparte]

"So, one agent was not convinced that Kerry was a bad guy."

We don't even know that much at this point. We only know that the Kerry campaign handed off some scraps of paper to CNN and that CNN dutifully recited the content of those scraps of paper. We've heard nothing from the FBI itself.

Ask yourself this: Since when does chain of custody for evidence of a possible crime include the suspect himself?

[beelzepug]

"...co-conspirators at VVAW (or his crew from VN) could disappear..."

Or be run over while sleeping on the railroad tracks, or commit suicide by shooting themselves five times in the back of the head, or, or....damn! That story has already been done in Arkansas, hasn't it?

[savedbygrace]

Almost every day.

[Bonaparte]

:-)

[js1138]

I read somewhere, today, that the pages exonerating Kerry were picked from twelve boxes of reports. So, one agent was not convinced that Kerry was a bad guy. What was in the other boxes? Not only that was this agent even present at the meeting, was he even privy to what went on at that meeting.

If the group was careful to pick an unbugged location for the meeting, and only allowed senior management in, the FBI had no way of knowing what was discussed. It's pretty obvious that only one or two hotheads wanted to discuss assassination, and it went no further. Problem is, over the years, some of them developed loose tongues. this is one of those Crime and Punishment scenerios. The guilty just have to confess.

[Hon]

"...The vet said Kerry didn't like the plan and loudly argued against it. He thereby accidentally proved that Kerry was there at the meeting, and that he (the vet Gibson was interviewing) was not telling the truth when he said he did not recall Kerry being at the meeting at all. He did recall Kerry's presence enough to remember details about the argument, he just lied about it when asked directly earlier in the inverview."

Barnes is one of the witnesses who first claimed that Kerry was at the meeting, then after a couple of calls from Veterans For Kerry head (and former VVAW member) John Hurley, he had a lapse of memory. Apparently his memory sometimes flashes back.

Anyway, this was the same tactic they tried on another witness to Kerry's presence, disabled vet (and to my mind a real hero) John Musgrave. But even after a couple of calls from Hurley, Musgrave stuck with his story.

BTW, Nicosia says that Barnes wasn't even in the meeting, but had to wait out on the lawn with the other non-trustees.

[OKSooner]

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