[mrustow]

Zing!

[Rocko]

Bump!

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

With regard to the recent elections in Spain, we shouldn't be concerned about Europe's destiny....

It's their density that should be of a more immediate concern.

[Springman]

Book Marking Bump!!!!!

[Carry_Okie]

Thank goodness, no American president would be so foolish, as to let the U.S. be overwhelmed by hostile foreigners!

He lost me right there. Perhaps a tour in LA is in order so that he can see the Mexican flags.

[x]

By the early 20th century, Europeans tended to speak synonymously of "Europe," "Christianity," and "the West." But Christianity was born in the same place as Judaism - the Middle East. Christianity may have achieved its greatest political power in Europe, but its greatest religious passion had peaked long before it arrived on the Continent. By the mid-19th century, at the height of European power, Christianity was a decadent, empty shell. And the ideas associated with "the West" were already moving -- west.

That's a very condensed, "armchair" view of history. There's some truth in it, but a lot to object to. Had Christianity's religous passion really "peaked long before it arrived on the Continent?" That would have been news to generations of popes, clerics, theologians, reformers, and artists. Does a thousand years of Medieval religion count for nothing? By Stix's logic, America itself doesn't hold a candle to the Middle East of two millennia ago, so we can't be especially religious today.

Was Christianity really a "decadent, empty shell" by the mid-19th century? The situation might have looked that way to philosophers like Nietzsche, but for millions of the faithful it certainly wasn't the case. Even down to the mid-20th century, religion was quite strong, especially in Southern and Eastern Europe, but even in France and Germany.

Comparing European elites with ordinary Americans is an "apples and oranges" comparison. Ordinary Western Europeans today, do seem to be particularly irreligious, but that wasn't always the case; nor are American elites especially devout for something close to a century. The point of Nietzsche's judgement was that he saw through what many openly professed to the void he thought lay beneath, and his judgement on 21st century America wouldn't be so different from his condemnation of his own era of European History.

European Christianity certainly has been in decline and probably Europe itself, but Stix is too quick to assume that America is immune to Europe's problems. Contemporary political divisions do reflect deeper conflicts, but one can overstate the historical differences between Americans and Europeans.

[McGavin999]

I've never understood the liberal attachment to europeans? Why on earth would you be facinated with the place that so many fled?

This guy is right, England is NOT europe, but it's rapidly becoming european and those brave souls who cherish their British heritage will end up fleeing that valiant isle as more and more cowards break flood the country from their "european" brothers.

[Free ThinkerNY]

[VOA]

Spain's Surrender, and the Destiny of Europe

Maybe I've missed it, but has any commentator/politician
mentioned that Spain's new Prime Minister might as well send up the
white flag to ETA and just let the Basques go for good?

If ETA hasn't mailed a letter to Zapatero "Let us go or we'll blow up
more Spaniards than Al-Quida did." the Basque separatists are too dumb
to earn their freedom.

[Casloy]

Let's see, they elected a socialist. First they give up their self respect and humiliate themselves by begging the terrorists to leave them alone. Second, they give up their economy. In the hands of a socialist it will be another train wreck.

[HitmanLV]

Sorry, but political articles lose a lot of credibility when they begin extended quotes from movies.

[Travis McGee]

Western European nations increasingly embrace appeasement, while permitting themselves to be overwhelmed by hordes of their Muslim enemies, enemies who hold everything European in contempt, and who increasingly include violent gangs, whose idea of fun is to brutalize Jews and gang-rape Christian girls.

The Euros have lost even the will to survive. They are far below replacement numbers, they can't even summon the energy to breed a new generation. Their men are so flaccid that they will put their women in burkahs and kiss the scimitar before they raise a fist to defend their culture. The only question is which will be the first nation to adopt islamic sharia law.

[lainde]

Excellent summary of European history...Without pancake made-up revisionism!