Disgusting Protester Sign at the NYC "Peace" March

Canon EOS 10D | March 20, 2004 | toupsie

[toupsie]

What these two "Patriotic" Americans' sign says:
Support the Only Position with Successful Historical Precedent
Call for the Mutiny of U.S. FORCES in Iraq as in Vietnam!
U.S. Regime withdrew from Vietnam in 1975 only after
Mutiny in Ranks: Mass Shootings of Officers by Enlisted Men
and Refusal of Recruits to Even Get on Troop Ships! Mutiny
at an earlier date would have saved the lives of
2 Million Vietnamese and over 58 Thousand Americans!

[capitan_refugio]

I hunted for a picture, but could not find one. I'll check an older Janes Fighting Ships to see if I can identify at least the class of transport the General Patch was in.

In the Korean and Vietnam Wars there was no submarine threat, so the days of packing 10,000 soldiers/marines onto a stripped down ocean liner were over. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I recall the sister ship of the Titanic was sunk as a hospital ship during WWI (Brittanic?). I think another sister ship was used as a fast troopship (Olympic?).

[U S Army EOD]

True, but it was well known that the Britanic was also carrying munitions and war supplies and lost her status.

My family went to Germany in 1949 on the General Sturgess but was supposed to go on the General Blue. The Blue had boiler problems so they switched us over to the Sturgess. Although I was only five years old, I still remember a lot of the trip on the ship and the train ride from Bremahaven to Garmish. Since their were no quarters for Americans at that time, we were forced against our will to stay in one of the big resort hotels in Garmish for a while. What torture it was.

[U S Army EOD]

PS: In 1977 when I got out of the Army in Germany, I went to England and bought a 36 foot sailboat that I sailed back to the States in the winter time. I learned from that experience that it is not a good idea to cross the North Atlantic in the winter time in a 36 ft sailboat.

But it sure was fun when I turned in my travel voucher at Fort Gordon, GA, POV from Frankfurt, Germany to Lincolnton, GA.

[Coleus]

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[capitan_refugio]

I found this:
http://www.usmm.org/msts/line.html

[Texas Eagle]

What do the buttons say on that guy on the left? The one in the middle looks like a photo of President Bush with an X across it but I can't make out the other two?

Any chance one of them identifies him as a Kerry supporter?

[toupsie]

Well they certainly are not going to vote for George Bush so I am assuming they are going to vote Kerry or Nader.

[RightOnline]

"Why are most socialist protestors funny looking old guys?"

You mean the dweebs who couldn't get laid.....at any age.......except by the fat, ugly chicks? Those guys?

[Howlin]

There's a George Carlin joke in there somewhere. :-)

[RightOnline]

Probably. These droolers are nothing but a bad joke anyway.

[capitan_refugio]

Here's another page with some specifications. Hope you find this as intersting as I did. I really don't know very much about the auxillary side of the navy.

BTW, isn't "torture" against the Geneva conventions? ;^)

[capitan_refugio]

"But it sure was fun when I turned in my travel voucher at Fort Gordon, GA, POV from Frankfurt, Germany to Lincolnton, GA."

I hope you were getting per diem.

[Joe_October]

I'll say it again.

Hitler, a phenomenon of the Left.

Why are the Lefties saying Bush is one of theirs?

[Howlin]

Don't miss this one:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1102610/posts

[Atchafalaya]

The YCL kid must double at Wal Mart; check out all the pins.

[capitan_refugio]

http://www.usmm.org/pships.html

LOL This time, I'll actually give you the link!

[U S Army EOD]

They paid me MAC Tarriff rates or what it would cost to fly a person back. However since I had the my boat "Georgia Peach II" on my orders I could bring her in duty free.

Unfortunately due to the fickle finger of fate I no longer have the boat. That was one of the best times in my life. But not all of it. The first 1,500 miles was a nightmare. I can tell you first hand what it is like to go through a Force 12 (by the BBC) for 18 hours and take three 100 degree or more knock downs in one night. Or to get hit by a big wave and notice water coming in all the hatches which meant the entire boat was under water.

We went through three major storms during the trip but it was still worth it. We navigated with a sextant and got so good with it that from a known point we were able to get within 1/2 mile of our longitutude and 200 yards of our lattitude using noon sights. When we got to Savannah, Georgia we had 100% confidence in both ourselves and the boat.

If ever a non living object could have a soul the Georgia Peach II had one.

[U S Army EOD]

I just sent a copy of it to the VVAW Vietnam Veterans Against the War website.

[capitan_refugio]

Sounds like you could well understand the storyline in "The Perfect Storm"! When I was in college I worked three summers in the Deep Sea Drilling project on the Glomar Challenger. The first summer we were in transit from Istanbul to the Atlantic through the Med. We hit a particular bad summer storm right on the beam. The Glomar Challenger was a drill ship, with this big old heavy derrick in the middle, reaching up over 100 feet above the waterline. And also, just below the level of the bridge deck was the drill pipe racker. All this heavy drill pipe sitting flat, adjacent to the derrick about 20 over the main deck.

I was told the ship could take a 57 degree roll and recover. A couple of times we rolled over 40 degrees (There was a roll meter (inclinometer) in the galley). I swear to god I knew where every life raft was located and where every extra life vest was. The Captain kept those of us on duty (ships crew and scientific crew alike) in vests for one day. On a couple of those big rolls the ship just shuddered and hung there for a few seconds before diving back down into the wave trough and getting right again.

This is nothing like your experiences in the small boat - its just you against nature! I will say however, that a sister ship of the Challeger, the Glomar Java Sea went down in a typhoon in the South China Sea. Apparently she broke her back and sank in seconds!

[U S Army EOD]

I remember the other drill ship going down. I think there were some men in a decompression chamber that were trapped and could not get out.

I would take my chances in a sailboat like I had over a large ship. The most seaworthy vessel ever designed was a bottle with a cork in it. A sailboat under 45 feet is very simular to that in idea. There were some ships sunk in the major storm we were in and south of Maderia we encountered another bad blow where we lost our main boom in a jibe. There was a Russian cruse ship there named of all names the Georgia. She had her entire bridge stoved in. We both left Maderia at the same time and I elected to return to Maderia after we lost the main boom because my wife had relatives and contacts there. That is when we saw the ship after it was damaged. The only damage that we ever took in storms that weren't my fault were broken rail stantions and the spray hood got ripped off. We never did a 360 roll like some boats I knew did. Some of them kept their mast even after that. I knew one Swede that did two in one night in about a 31 foot boat. When we left England there was a race starting for singlehanded 21 feet and under to the Carribean. They did loose one boat in that but it was probably hit by a ship. While we were in Maderia a German ship put in trying to get a search organized. What had happened one of the crew members just happened to look over the side one day and noticed a sailboat mast hung in the anchor. They had no idea when they hit the other boat. One of the neatest things that happened on the entire trip was when we were about 600 miles from the British Virgin Islands we sighted a single white light headed from south to north with us going from east to west. We kept watching this and could finally make out some sails. It was a sailboat with just the masthead light on with the auto pilot set and everyone asleep. To this day, I think if we had held our course we would have hit each other. We yelled and could not wake anybody up. Thinking back on it I wished we had thrown a note into their cockpit as they went by and let them find it the next day when they woke up.

I take that back on the neatest thing. While in Lisbon we had several boats tied together with each boat coming in with better sea stories. We were all going to make repairs and leave in about a week or so. All these plans fell apart when someone discovered where we could buy wine for only eighteen cents per gallon if we brought our own jugs. A month and a half later, all the boats were still there.