We may be witnessing a strange reversal of the 1930s, with Islamo-fascists in place of Euro-fascists

The Sunday Times (UK) ^ | 3/21/04 | Andrew Sullivan

[Prime Choice]

The parallels are indeed plain. I'm sure the Spanish are now claiming "peace in our time" the same as Neville Chamberlain!

[annyokie]

THEY GAVE IN: The county that gave us the Scopes trial has decided to reverse its decision to make itself Homorein. But the spirit of Rhea county Christianity lives on among its youth: But 12-year-old Caitlin Kinney, attending the meeting with her mother, said she supported the commissioners' initial vote. "I think they should go further, try to see if they can ban them," she said. "It's not a Christian thing." The evangelicals brought her up well, didn't they?

Andy wants to have it both ways.

[Reagan Man]

I’m sorry, Mr Zapatero, but the liberation of millions from two of the most brutal police states in history is not and never could be described as “a disaster”. Just to utter that sentiment is to have lost even the faintest sense of moral bearings.

Sullivan gets it.

[proxy_user]

Unlike many of his buddies, Mr. Sullivan appears to take the threat by Islamists to eliminate homosexuals seriously.

He under stands that if they say they're going to do it, they will undoubtedly make good on their words.

[Tuco Ramirez]

Regardless of how they are viewed today, "Euro-fascists" were never interested in world dominations. They were more "nationalist" than "globalist".

Any comparison between European fascism in the 1930s and Islam today is a serious underestimation of Islam.

[Bonaparte]

"No wonder that a day later another Islamist group threatened France with mass murder if the government did not relent in its ban on headscarves."

France has already declared its cowardice and corruption clearly and loudly. It will either do the terrorists' bidding or suffer the consequences. That country was unwilling to face islamofascism on its feet and now it will do so on its knees.

[Redcoat LI]

"The jihadis have learnt another couple of lessons. The first is that America will not quail before a terror attack."

That ham-slammer may be confused about a lot of things,but he understands what this is all about.

[oceanview]

the next holocaust in europe will come when islamic majorities under 30 years old realize they are shouldering the costs for the retirement and social needs of elderly white christian europeans.

[Reagan Man]

Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf, that the German people were the Master Race and destined to rule the world. It's a historical fact. Hitler wanted to rule the world.

[Clemenza]

Ping!

[Rocko]

Bump.

[syriacus]

Europe should seize the moment that America failed to grasp.”

The Europeans are acting like someone counseling a wife to stay with her abusive husband.

[Fiddlstix]

BTTT

[Tuco Ramirez]

Hitler felt that the Germanic people were destined to rule the world; he did very little to make it happen.

He set out to conquer Greater Germany's neighbors; he had no plans, and developed no weapons, to take it beyond that.

"European fascism" encompasses much more than "Nazism".

[2banana]

The truth, of course, is the exact opposite. Nothing threatens Al-Qaeda or the Islamo-fascist terror network more than the possibility of a constitutional democracy in Iraq. If Iraq succeeds, the entire dysfunction in the Middle East on which Al-Qaeda relies for its recruitment and growth would be in danger of unravelling. If Iraqis can achieve a semblance of a free and democratic society — with economic growth, political pluralism and religious freedom — the Al-Qaeda model of theocratic fascism will lose whatever appeal it has now in that part of the world.

Losing Afghanistan was bad enough for the jihadis. Seeing Iraq emerge into modernity would be fatal. How long could Syria’s dictatorship last if that occurs? What would happen to Iran, where a young generation desperate for freedom and democracy could finally look over the border and see a Muslim state prosper with real elections and a meaningful constitution? Al-Qaeda understands the stakes. That is why it is so desperately keen to drive a wedge between Europe and America, to intimidate anybody building a new Iraq with violence and murder, and to mobilise the young and disaffected among Europe’s Muslim population to unleash terror from within.

About sums up the whole conflict and what is at stake...

[Reagan Man]

You made a statement that was untrue. I refuted it. No have no rebuttal. Next.

[Springfield45]

"Any comparison between European fascism in the 1930s and Islam today is a serious underestimation of Islam"
I don't think the comparison was between the entire worldwide Islamic faith but between the radical, violent Islamic groups that sponsor and participate in terrorism vs. the groups that came to power in Europe in the 1930s. In fact, I think the comparison is highly accurate.
Both groups- the IslamoNazi's (radical Islamic terrorists) and the terrorists of the 1930s (Hitler and his ilk)- gain acceptance through public trickery and brutal repression, through exploiting intolerance and ignorance and feelings of clan or national superiority.
"Regardless of how they are viewed today, "Euro-fascists" were never interested in world dominations."
HUH? The German/Italian Coalition conquered nearly all of continental Europe, was threatening Norway and Finland, and had its sights set on the conquest of Great Brittain, The Soviet Union, and Africa. If they were never interested in world domination, why would they have gone to all that trouble?!

[Bonaparte]

It's well known that Imperial Japan and nazi Germany had a plan for dividing America between them. You bet Hitler had a plan for world domination. And so did Japan.

[eddie willers]

Andrew smacks it outta the park.