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To: Havoc; Cronos
Where did you "hear" this prayer with the crucial words left out? I provided a link. I suspect you either found it in anti-Catholic literature, so obsessed with discrediting the Pope that it would, in effect, stoop to the level of planting evidence. If you heard it coming from the mouth of a priest, either he made a mistake, or (more likely IMOHO) your need to attack the Pope led you to develop a selective hearing disorder.

In any case, I have thoughtfully provided a link to the actual words of the prayer. The John 14:6 referrence explains what he is saying quite efficiently.

Think about it for a second. John Paul II is a brilliant man. You would conceed this point, I expect? Popes have been dealing with the same tired accusation that you just made for centuries. Protestants have trouble understanding Mary's Special Role in Catholic Tradition, so they assume that in consititutes worship. It doesn't, but that's beside the point. Why would the Pope, of all people, add fuel to the fire by making such a blatant mistake? He wouldn't.

As a Christian, I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you did not intentionally change the quote to suit your argument. It's beside the point. You're still wrong.

226 posted on 03/19/2004 3:26:08 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9
As a Christian, I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you did not intentionally change the quote to suit your argument. It's beside the point. You're still wrong.

What you quoted and what I quoted are essentially the same thing. As I said, the relevant portion is the fact that JP II as ya'll call him, sought Mary in prayer for salvation. You can spin that any way you wish. It does not change it one iota. I don't care a whit about the "special role" you wish to say exists. It isn't in scripture and it's blasphemous. Scripture tells us that Christ is the way the truth and the life and that no man comes to the Father but by Him. Paul tells us that salvation comes through us individually believing on Christ and Confessing him with our mouths. That alone should be enough to tell us that Mary can in NO way obtain salvation for ANYONE. She can't believe for you and she can't confess for you. This is another Gospel message being foisted on us. You can't rationalize your way out of it. He said it. You're in denial.

233 posted on 03/19/2004 3:34:32 PM PST by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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