[wayoverontheright]

Who had the most to gain from these bombings? How about Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero and his minions?

First, remote detonation simply isn't al-Qaida's signature, there was secular involvement here. Secondly, al-Qaida still hasn't acknowledged involvement in 9-11, why this one and why so rapidly?

This looks like a frame up to me, since when did Socialists not consider their own citizens to be expendable to achieve their grand vision?

[livius]

That's true - there have been no indications of suicide bombers in this (one of the reasons it was first believed to have been ETA, which never blows up its own members).


Also, one alleged communique was found after an anonymous phone call several hours after the event told police they could find it someplace (a trash can, if I recall correctly) between a mosque and an abandoned factory. This is not AQ's style.

[Restorer]

The problem with your theory is that the conventional wisdom, right up through the election, was that the attacks would result in a larger majority for the party in power.

None of the pundits really predicted a Socialist victory as a result of the attacks, which blows a great big hole in their potential motive.

Also, you need to remember that Socialists (in America called liberals) are not Communists. They are squeamish Communists. If they were not squeamish, they would be hard left, not soft left like Tony Blair. That's why Socialists normally get eaten alive by real Commies, who are not even the slightest bit squeamish, in factional fighting.

As a rule, squeamish people do not kill 200 civilians for some nebulous possible political benefit.

[truthandlife]

I wonder if radical Democrats in this country are getting any ideas from this? I would not put it past them for an October surprise.

[nathanbedford]

You and this article raise serious questions. I think we should await the verdict of forensic evidence, if the FBI can produce something.

A another question is raised here: The problem of splinter freelancers. And this raises the danger for the socialists in places like France who believe they can somehow manage the threat through negotiation or appeasement while simultaneously undermining America. They cannot be sure they will have cut their deal with the right bunch of Islamo-crazies. They will find that they cannot buy peace because they make the business of terror profitable, both politically and financially.

We have learned that we cannot win the war against drugs if we cannot eliminate demand merely by attacking supply. The Socialists have just created demand;I am afraid they have unwittingly let the genie out and infinitly prolonged the war.

[HenryLeeII]

Who had the most to gain from these bombings? How about Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero and his minions?

Reichstag '04!!! But at least the Nazi's waited until night when there were fewer people in the building (as did that other left-wing terrorist, Clinton, with his aspirin factory attack).

[Just mythoughts]

"Who had the most to gain from these bombings? How about Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero and his minions?"


Not out of the realm of possibility. Especially considering what the commies socialists in the US, running for president have been saying.

One does have to begin to wonder if the commie socialists are not the hidden hand of power for terrorists.

[genefromjersey]

Ah,wayover ! I posted the same ideas-with some documentation-on one of the liberal websites. They reacted promptly....by pulling my post altogether.

I don't know how many people here would be interested,but I did a bit of research on "el Partido Socialista Obrero Espanol" ( sorry-I don't know how to add the proper "tilde" mark to Espanol !)otherwise known as the Socialist Workers' Party ; on the Maoist terror group ETA (Euzkadi Ta Askatsuna), and on EE (Euskadiko Ezkerra) the political arm of ETA.

If anyone is interested,post a comment,or use the direct comment, and I'll work it up.

[atomicpossum]

Who had the most to gain from these bombings? How about Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero and his minions?

[CDHart]

"This looks like a frame up to me, since when did Socialists not consider their own citizens to be expendable to achieve their grand vision?"

Perhaps a modern Reichstag?

Carolyn

[cake_crumb]

That video of Binny taking credit for 9/11 sure sounded like an acknowledgement of involvement.

[cake_crumb]

Forgot to add that I agree, we shouldn't rule out Zapatero.

[B Knotts]

Good point.

Cui bono?

[Robert_Paulson2]

Zapatero's party apparatus was my number one suspect on these murders.
Around here a few years back, the Clintons were widely believed to be involved in a series of "arkancides," over their careers, just to stay in power. (see alamo girl's downside legacy files and archives)

Socialists, of the liberal variety, support abortion and infanticide, largely to court the women's vote. If they pander to murder to stay in power, why is it such a stretch to suspect they would commit mass murders to stay in power...

or to gain power?

Hitler's NAZI socialist party did this with the Reichstagg fire, used to build hatred for jews and seize political power... why is Zapatero's socialist party, seemingly beneath such an action in the thinking of so many?

I BELIEVE there may indeed be a direct connection to Zapatero's party and the Madrid bombings. And it's not a conspiracy theory... it's consistent with a historical pattern of socialists we know something about... the clintongs rise to power and a similar path hitler's NAZI party.

This angle should be pursued.
The king should be kept in a position wherein he can safely dismiss parliament and call for new elections. Spaniards should be encouraged to press for investigation of the matter. And we need to keep in mind that conservatives in Spain, who moved towards the US war on terrorism, still make up about 40 percent of the population...

I would like to see new elections called for, if this angle gains any more credibility... you?

[Ditto]

Secondly, al-Qaida still hasn't acknowledged involvement in 9-11, why this one and why so rapidly?

Don't you recall the video tapes we found in Afghanistan showing Bin Laden braging about the planning and execution of 9-11?

[El Gato]

Secondly, al-Qaida still hasn't acknowledged involvement in 9-11, why this one and why so rapidly?

Other than the tape of Osama bragging about 9-11, and saying how they really didn't expect to take the towers completely down. But then again, that was a tape captured in Afghanistan, not something designed for public release.

I could however see a possible collusion, even if not quite in the nature of a conspiracy, between Zapatero and Moorocan groups. Pretty much like the French (and Zapatero) supporting Kerry. A Zapatero government is way more likely to give up the remaining Spanish North African colonies than the current government would have been.