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Ferret: why I'm alarmed by FR & will never post here ever again (except for my 9 replies & counting)
Originally posted elsewhere ^ | 2004-03-08 | Michael Joseph McCarthy

Posted on 03/16/2004 4:38:03 AM PST by bicycle thug

Edited on 03/16/2004 5:17:47 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Mod update: To put this "opus" in perspective, some additional information compliments of a thorough FReeper, dighton.

From a Kerry in 2004 Meetup page, via google cache:

bicyclethug (Eugene, OR)

I am Michael Joseph McCarthy, well known forest activist in Eugene, Oregon who ran against Scott Meisner for City Council last election. I am a Member of the Pacific Green Party who wants this scoundrel in office now thrown out.

72 posted on 03/16/2004 5:05:43 AM PST by dighton


Begin "opus":

Fascism in Free Republic manifests itself as extreme ideology that celebrates themselves as solely representing the nation as an organic community transcending all other loyalties. It emphasizes a myth of national rebirth after a period of decline or destruction. Liberalism is the prime keyword to represent the "problem" group causing the "decay and disruption of "proper" American life.

The FR reminds me of the typical fascist call for a "spiritual revolution" against signs of moral decay such as individualism and materialism, and calls to purge "alien" forces and groups that threaten the organic community. Fascism tends to celebrate masculinity, mystical unity, and the regenerative power of violence. Often, but not always, it promotes racial superiority doctrines, ethnic persecution, imperialist expansion, and genocide. At the same time, fascists may embrace a form of internationalism based on either racial or ideological solidarity across national boundaries. Usually fascism espouses open male supremacy, though sometimes it may also promote female solidarity and new opportunities for women of the privileged nation or race.

FR's call to purge Liberalism and to install a conservative only lifestyle in these United States is not realistic under the auspices of the U.S. Constitution which is designed for all groups of all types and classes to be protected from the domination and authority of the dominant group.

The FR calls for the establishment of a dominant group - their brand of Conservatives - that keeps all the others in line including conservatives "who don't think right on various topics. The virtual community has degenerated into a witch hunt for any and all "untrue thinkers," who must be purged at all costs.

FR's approach to politics is both populist--in that it seeks to activate "the people" as a whole against perceived oppressors or enemies - and elitist - in that it treats the people's will as embodied in a select group, or often one prime iconic leader whose authority flows downward only. FR, in typical Fascist style seeks to organize a cadre-led mass movement in a drive to seize state power. It seeks to forcibly subordinate all spheres of society to its ideological vision of what a community is, and the end result of their game is totalitarianism, pure and simple.

Both as a movement and a regime, fascism uses mass organizations as a system of integration and control, and uses organized violence to suppress opposition, although the scale of violence varies widely. FReepers unethically disrupts polls, hacks and disrupts other sites, and uses real or perceived disruption by others of their site as a rallying point to drive home a wedge between them and any group not belonging to the FReeper movement to reshape America.

Fascism is hostile to Marxism, liberalism, and even true conservatism, yet it borrows concepts and practices from all three. Jim Rob's blend of conservatism and use as advocacy of George W. Bush to insure that the right thinkers who know how to follow orders stay on board builds an obedience and cohesion to central authority. He wishes to create an entity that can influence people like Bush to fall into sync with his goals by offering an effective vehicle to mobilize and control people on the grass roots level as he has proved to people like the President that he indeed can do things like galvanize and grow the Klamath water rights for farmers issue.

JimRob is shrewd, he wishes to influence those in higher office and at the same time remold the electorate into a cohesive force that can roll over any group that gets in it's way in a very unconstitutional fashion.

The FR exploits real grievances against capitalists and landowners through ethnic (or in the Free Republic's case the classic homosexual wedge issue) scapegoating or radical- sounding conspiracy theories. They reject the liberal doctrines of individual autonomy and rights, political pluralism, and representative government, yet it advocates broad popular participation in politics and may use parliamentary channels in its drive to power.

Its vision of a "new order" clashes with the conservative attachment to tradition-based institutions and hierarchies, and much like fascism, they often romanticizes the past as inspiration for national rebirth.

Fascism always has had a complex relationship with established elites and the non-fascist right much like the FR does. It strives to be not a mere puppet of the ruling class, but an autonomous movement with its own social base. In practice, they defend capitalism against instability and the left, but also they pursue an agenda that sometimes clashes with capitalist interests in significant ways.

I have watched and studied the FR with going horror as this culture has grown more malignant and horrifying over the years. Any and all peoples and nations are vulnerable to the disease of fascism, and thought I am sure JimRob and company started with the best of intentions, over the years they have cognitively grown more hostile and unreasonable to anyone not of an elite brand of FReeper. The road to fascism is so incremental it sneaks in and decades later people always wonder how the heck it happened. And it is happening at that particular virtual community, make no mistake about it.

I have always wanted to see the FR grow up. Journalism in these United States was reactionary and lacked accountability in the early years of our nation and as it evolved it was forced to grow up. I want the FR to flourish and to grow up ethically and responsibly, with a measure of respect and empathy for those other groups that blend with them to form our great nation.

But it hasn't, and it has grown into an entity quite alarming. If FReepers care and act now, they can take back a precious jewel of a forum bought and paid for by them that fills an important need in their lives.

If this doesn't happen, we will crush the FR and remove it like a malignant tumor before it destroys what we collectively hold dear; The United States of America as we know it with our Constitution as is works now with it's checks and balances there to prevent Fascist and totalitarian entities from taking us and the world on the road to incredible destruction and human misery.

. This is a critically important topic, and people have leadership and intuitive skills that can either debunk me, or develop tools to reform FR and make it responsible and ethical as it should be. I don't hate and nurse disdain for the Free Republic, I deeply care and want the best for FReepers. And it hurts deeply and horribly to articulate my thoughts and fears here, as FReepers are indeed special people who do not deserve to be used, and to have bad things happen to them, or to be manipulated to cause bad things to happen to others.

Peace, and respect to all.


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To: bicycle thug
I am beginning to wonder about the people on this site lately.

I had an argument with two idiots who tried to argue that Martha Stewarts insider trading was 'freedom of speech' and if she had inside info she should be able to trade on it.

No amount of common sense would convince them that someone lost money when they bought martha's stock. The seemed unable to understand that some actual living person bought her stocks, and said that the stock eventually went higher so they 'made out' in the long run...

idiots
261 posted on 03/16/2004 6:44:51 AM PST by Mr. K
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To: JimVT
The fact that it's well-known and used reference doesn't mean it's not vulgar and derogatory.
262 posted on 03/16/2004 6:45:01 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Lead Moderator
Interesting. He calls us fascists but he now hangs out with Nazis.
263 posted on 03/16/2004 6:45:21 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Dog
This isn't an opus.......Laz writes a fine opus.

The Opus: Hello to my friends.....

264 posted on 03/16/2004 6:45:32 AM PST by ActionNewsBill
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To: thoughtomator
Some log on here and just read the news, others feel trapped and cannot leave.


265 posted on 03/16/2004 6:45:37 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: bicycle thug
Still posting here?

Well, so much for you having the courage of your convictions!

266 posted on 03/16/2004 6:48:38 AM PST by FormerLib ("Homosexual marriage" is just another route to anarchy.)
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To: bicycle thug
I have read some crazy, paranoid, tin foil hat on too tight, rants in my time, but hon, you win the prize. I have never seen anyone hopping around in a white bunny suit looking for Wonderland before, thanks for the memory.

The only thing you have contributed of value, is an excellent example of liberal mental illness, facism pointing it's accusing finger at the innocent. From the liberal vote fraud in 2000, to the liberal dung on the Oval Office carpet, to liberal anarchy regarding any established norms, yours is the typical psycological illness common to liberalism, infantilism.

The liberal experiences infantile rage at boundries, or anything that would keep him from his instant gratification, no matter the cost to the whole. The society you invision is an uncohesive riot of rot that disregards the lessons of history, disdains ethics, and holds no other commitment except to self.

I began this as a total put down to you, using the truth to shame you. Actually, I hope I have done you a favor, revealing honestly what is hampering your mental health and happiness, and I hope you seek professional help for your condition. It's called infantilism. You are the poster child for the condition.
267 posted on 03/16/2004 6:49:16 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Mr. K
Don't judge our idiots until you shared their eating utensils!


268 posted on 03/16/2004 6:49:17 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: bicycle thug
Leave off the trumpets already and just GO.
269 posted on 03/16/2004 6:52:21 AM PST by Carolinamom (Currently re-programming my thinking to positive mode.)
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To: bicycle thug
"One of them was to be more responsible for my actions and to own my words."

Except you want to be exempt from any consequences for your past words.

Basically, you were on a forum for conservatives, which does not describe you. You posted for a while, despite the fact that this site is not for people who share your beliefs. Then, "Jim Robinson banned [you]in March 2000 after some admittedly foul posts made while [you were] mortally angry".

So Jim decided to cut the cord.

Since then, you have shown that you do not want to be responsible to your actions or words, because you have signed up new accounts repeatedly to come on this forum, which is not for people like you, against the wishes of the proprietor.

You talk about liberty, but deny Jim his liberty to invite only those he wants here to be here. You talk about taking responsibility, but only when it means you get what you want.

You say a lot of things about who you are and what you believe. We are supposed to take it on face value that you are telling the truth, when you have shown that you don't follow your own words. Look at the title of this thread- "Why [you] are alarmed by Free Republic, and will never post here ever again". Those are your words. How much did you mean them? Not much, apparently. You meant them so little that you posted it here, and you meant them so little that you have subsequently posted repeatedly to this thread, and you meant them so little that you said "If he were to allow me to stay, I would."

I do not think your words mean much. You say them, but you don't seem to attach to them any meaning other than trying to serve your positions.

And you hope we survive. Mighty white of you. Is that before or after you crush the FR and remove it like a malignant tumor, if we don't capitulate to what you want, and allow you a forum to promote your views, which only go so far, if your words mean what you say they mean, which is debatable?

I think this thread has served the purpose I hoped when I left it up, in showing everyone your true colors. It seems that most everyone but Laz has seen through your bull. Have a good one, Mr. Thug.

270 posted on 03/16/2004 6:54:34 AM PST by Lead Moderator
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To: sauropod
I'm posting these in case some Freepers want to file these away for use in debates with eco-fascists:

"We reject the idea of private property.” Peter Berle, former president of the National Audubon Society

“Private ownership is not absolute and governments must often impose land use laws for the greater public good, whether it’s to protect endangered species, save trees, maintain scenic vistas or regulate population density.” Bill Craven, Sierra Club of America

“What matters is to emphasize the fundamental idea in my party’s economic program clearly - the idea of authority. I want the authority; I want everyone to keep the property he has acquired for himself according to the principle: benefit to the community precedes benefit to the individual. But the state should retain supervision and each property owner should consider himself appointed by the state. It is his duty not to use his property against the interests of others among his own people. This is the crucial matter. The Third Reich will always retain its right to control the owners of property.” Adolph Hitler

“Land ... cannot be treated as an ordinary asset, controlled by individuals and subject to the pressures and inefficiencies of the market. Private land ownership is also a principal instrument of accumulation and concentration of wealth and therefore contributes to social injustice; if unchecked, it may become a major obstacle in the planning and implementation of development schemes. The provision of decent dwellings and healthy conditions for the people can only be achieved if land is used in the interests of society as a whole. Public control of land use is therefore indispensable...” United Nations policy on land
271 posted on 03/16/2004 6:55:05 AM PST by sergeantdave (Gen. Custer wore an Arrowsmith shirt to his last property owner convention.)
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To: bicycle thug
"Michael Joseph McCarthy ... member of the Pacific Green Party ... " - talk about calling the kettle BLACK! Whew his criticism of FR fits him to a "t". It is Michael Joseph McCarthy that is the extremist that personalizes anything and everything in his hyper sensitive world.

His departure only proves how easy it is for these fruitcakes to be run out of town solely on debating ideas. In his case his ideas have been defeated. He can't stand that so he leaves this as his parting childish post pointing the finger to everyone but himself.

Good riddance!

272 posted on 03/16/2004 6:55:43 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Lead Moderator
You are the coolest moderator of all!!!


274 posted on 03/16/2004 6:58:14 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Lead Moderator
Have a good one, Mr. Thug.

Thank you!

275 posted on 03/16/2004 6:58:39 AM PST by new cruelty
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To: sergeantdave
Good post!

BTTT!
276 posted on 03/16/2004 7:00:03 AM PST by glock rocks (molon labe)
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To: FourtySeven
Special consideration for unintended environmental references sprinkled throughout.
277 posted on 03/16/2004 7:00:22 AM PST by mabelkitty (A tuning, a Vote in the topic package to the starting US presidency election fight)
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To: ActionNewsBill
But it has been a while since I saw a good opus here. Not that this one was a good opus, mind you. I could understand if he was mad at his local Republican Party or something.
278 posted on 03/16/2004 7:00:50 AM PST by RonPaulLives
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To: Neets
I agree with you to a point. Did you read some of his last posts? The cruelty of some of the FReepers did not help the situation.
I know what you are saying because I was an office manager for 2 Psychiatrists and 5 therapists. If a person is depressed and set to suicide, nothing can help it, but some things can certainly hurt the situation.
My point was not as much the situation with that FReeper, only as a point of reference, but this one. If this man is taking a website this seriously, it is not good. People can be cruel because they do not know who they are talking to and are basically faceless. People forget that there are humans behind those screens. I resolved after the tragedy to be kinder and understand that I could walk away from FR and no one would ever notice.
280 posted on 03/16/2004 7:03:06 AM PST by netmilsmom (Jonathansmommie's daughter was born 3-11-04, God Bless her!)
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