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Ferret: why I'm alarmed by FR & will never post here ever again (except for my 9 replies & counting)
Originally posted elsewhere ^ | 2004-03-08 | Michael Joseph McCarthy

Posted on 03/16/2004 4:38:03 AM PST by bicycle thug

Edited on 03/16/2004 5:17:47 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Mod update: To put this "opus" in perspective, some additional information compliments of a thorough FReeper, dighton.

From a Kerry in 2004 Meetup page, via google cache:

bicyclethug (Eugene, OR)

I am Michael Joseph McCarthy, well known forest activist in Eugene, Oregon who ran against Scott Meisner for City Council last election. I am a Member of the Pacific Green Party who wants this scoundrel in office now thrown out.

72 posted on 03/16/2004 5:05:43 AM PST by dighton


Begin "opus":

Fascism in Free Republic manifests itself as extreme ideology that celebrates themselves as solely representing the nation as an organic community transcending all other loyalties. It emphasizes a myth of national rebirth after a period of decline or destruction. Liberalism is the prime keyword to represent the "problem" group causing the "decay and disruption of "proper" American life.

The FR reminds me of the typical fascist call for a "spiritual revolution" against signs of moral decay such as individualism and materialism, and calls to purge "alien" forces and groups that threaten the organic community. Fascism tends to celebrate masculinity, mystical unity, and the regenerative power of violence. Often, but not always, it promotes racial superiority doctrines, ethnic persecution, imperialist expansion, and genocide. At the same time, fascists may embrace a form of internationalism based on either racial or ideological solidarity across national boundaries. Usually fascism espouses open male supremacy, though sometimes it may also promote female solidarity and new opportunities for women of the privileged nation or race.

FR's call to purge Liberalism and to install a conservative only lifestyle in these United States is not realistic under the auspices of the U.S. Constitution which is designed for all groups of all types and classes to be protected from the domination and authority of the dominant group.

The FR calls for the establishment of a dominant group - their brand of Conservatives - that keeps all the others in line including conservatives "who don't think right on various topics. The virtual community has degenerated into a witch hunt for any and all "untrue thinkers," who must be purged at all costs.

FR's approach to politics is both populist--in that it seeks to activate "the people" as a whole against perceived oppressors or enemies - and elitist - in that it treats the people's will as embodied in a select group, or often one prime iconic leader whose authority flows downward only. FR, in typical Fascist style seeks to organize a cadre-led mass movement in a drive to seize state power. It seeks to forcibly subordinate all spheres of society to its ideological vision of what a community is, and the end result of their game is totalitarianism, pure and simple.

Both as a movement and a regime, fascism uses mass organizations as a system of integration and control, and uses organized violence to suppress opposition, although the scale of violence varies widely. FReepers unethically disrupts polls, hacks and disrupts other sites, and uses real or perceived disruption by others of their site as a rallying point to drive home a wedge between them and any group not belonging to the FReeper movement to reshape America.

Fascism is hostile to Marxism, liberalism, and even true conservatism, yet it borrows concepts and practices from all three. Jim Rob's blend of conservatism and use as advocacy of George W. Bush to insure that the right thinkers who know how to follow orders stay on board builds an obedience and cohesion to central authority. He wishes to create an entity that can influence people like Bush to fall into sync with his goals by offering an effective vehicle to mobilize and control people on the grass roots level as he has proved to people like the President that he indeed can do things like galvanize and grow the Klamath water rights for farmers issue.

JimRob is shrewd, he wishes to influence those in higher office and at the same time remold the electorate into a cohesive force that can roll over any group that gets in it's way in a very unconstitutional fashion.

The FR exploits real grievances against capitalists and landowners through ethnic (or in the Free Republic's case the classic homosexual wedge issue) scapegoating or radical- sounding conspiracy theories. They reject the liberal doctrines of individual autonomy and rights, political pluralism, and representative government, yet it advocates broad popular participation in politics and may use parliamentary channels in its drive to power.

Its vision of a "new order" clashes with the conservative attachment to tradition-based institutions and hierarchies, and much like fascism, they often romanticizes the past as inspiration for national rebirth.

Fascism always has had a complex relationship with established elites and the non-fascist right much like the FR does. It strives to be not a mere puppet of the ruling class, but an autonomous movement with its own social base. In practice, they defend capitalism against instability and the left, but also they pursue an agenda that sometimes clashes with capitalist interests in significant ways.

I have watched and studied the FR with going horror as this culture has grown more malignant and horrifying over the years. Any and all peoples and nations are vulnerable to the disease of fascism, and thought I am sure JimRob and company started with the best of intentions, over the years they have cognitively grown more hostile and unreasonable to anyone not of an elite brand of FReeper. The road to fascism is so incremental it sneaks in and decades later people always wonder how the heck it happened. And it is happening at that particular virtual community, make no mistake about it.

I have always wanted to see the FR grow up. Journalism in these United States was reactionary and lacked accountability in the early years of our nation and as it evolved it was forced to grow up. I want the FR to flourish and to grow up ethically and responsibly, with a measure of respect and empathy for those other groups that blend with them to form our great nation.

But it hasn't, and it has grown into an entity quite alarming. If FReepers care and act now, they can take back a precious jewel of a forum bought and paid for by them that fills an important need in their lives.

If this doesn't happen, we will crush the FR and remove it like a malignant tumor before it destroys what we collectively hold dear; The United States of America as we know it with our Constitution as is works now with it's checks and balances there to prevent Fascist and totalitarian entities from taking us and the world on the road to incredible destruction and human misery.

. This is a critically important topic, and people have leadership and intuitive skills that can either debunk me, or develop tools to reform FR and make it responsible and ethical as it should be. I don't hate and nurse disdain for the Free Republic, I deeply care and want the best for FReepers. And it hurts deeply and horribly to articulate my thoughts and fears here, as FReepers are indeed special people who do not deserve to be used, and to have bad things happen to them, or to be manipulated to cause bad things to happen to others.

Peace, and respect to all.


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To: Neets
Hiya toots.
221 posted on 03/16/2004 6:12:22 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Hey John F'in. Kerry, why the long face?)
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To: glock rocks; bicycle thug
It looks like you've had this bottled up quite a while BT !

Aye, captain ! She's gonna BLOW !! hehe ! ;^)


222 posted on 03/16/2004 6:13:51 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (The Democrats say they believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
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To: bicycle thug; ferret
If this doesn't happen, we will crush the FR and remove it like a malignant tumor before it destroys what we collectively hold dear; The United States of America as we know it with our Constitution as is works now with it's checks and balances there to prevent Fascist and totalitarian entities from taking us and the world on the road to incredible destruction and human misery.

Spoken like a true Fascist Totalitarian, ferret. ;-)

223 posted on 03/16/2004 6:16:00 AM PST by an amused spectator (Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to be lied to by Democrats)
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To: Lazamataz
"But lets face it, there are some serious issues over here. We even posted kitten and cloud pictures to one another to demonstrate the head-in-sand mentality of many of the hardcore 'bots, and to object to the wolfpacking that we were subjected to."

Laz, you are so correct. If you stand up for a conservative core principle that is in opposition to the administration, you are swarmed with negative comments which are absurd in every way. Principle doesn't matter, winning does, and that's all the bots know, thus why I am on the the other site more also.

"I don't blame the mods."

I don't either. They can banish any of us for any offense they deem fit. This is a private not public entity. JR can do what he wants, when he wants. I may not agree with half of it, but when I see people sacrificing principle, it disturbs me greatly. Many of the posters here think it is more important to act like the "Moby" and "Soros" bunch than to stand on core conservative values. That is very, very sad.
224 posted on 03/16/2004 6:16:13 AM PST by Beck_isright ("I did not have sexual relations with that woman" - (Fill in name of Democrat here))
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To: bicycle thug; ferret
If this doesn't happen, we will crush the FR and remove it like a malignant tumor before it destroys what we collectively hold dear; The United States of America as we know it with our Constitution as is works now with it's checks and balances there to prevent Fascist and totalitarian entities from taking us and the world on the road to incredible destruction and human misery.

Spoken like a true Fascist Totalitarian, ferret. ;-)

225 posted on 03/16/2004 6:16:23 AM PST by an amused spectator (Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to be lied to by Democrats)
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To: DonaldDuke
So ferret is also a Kerry campaign activist?

Nope. He's a Greenie, a Naderite, a guy that'll work hard for Ralph--and that'll put President Bush back in the White House for four more years. We should embrace him, Birkenstocks & all.

226 posted on 03/16/2004 6:16:34 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: Lead Moderator
OK, thanks. We'll keep this in mind.

Fascists!!! Well, I thought we were portrayed as being VRWC???
227 posted on 03/16/2004 6:18:07 AM PST by danamco
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To: Lazamataz
ROTFLOL.

Lemon taffy eater.

228 posted on 03/16/2004 6:18:35 AM PST by new cruelty
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To: Lead Moderator
Check your mail in a few.
229 posted on 03/16/2004 6:18:54 AM PST by Neets (“I now know Him in a more personal way that I have. It is as it was " Jim Caviezel)
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To: bicycle thug
Why today? Has this got you upset?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1098471/posts

230 posted on 03/16/2004 6:19:15 AM PST by B Knotts
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To: bicycle thug
BUH BYE
231 posted on 03/16/2004 6:19:50 AM PST by viaveritasvita ("When Love takes you in, everything changes.")
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To: Cultural Jihad
"Ah, so now the anarcho-faeries are obediently and obeisantly bowing down to the fascists who are only out to stomp on everyone's neck, eh? Are you sure your name isn't Todd?"

With all due respect, I used my real name on this thread in the prompting box for author. As a longtime critic of scoundrels like ELFers and ALFers, I deeply believe one must be accountable for their words and actions.

I put my name to this because I have been taught many valuable things over the years by Free Republic and the good people on it. One of them was to be more responsible for my actions and to own my words.

My intentions should be to solely lay forth my opinions and fears with the cross hairs on the goal of making this forum better. I believe there are very real problems inherent with the way FR does business.

But my strongest desire is to see dialog and work to resolve them and to heal the forum in anyway possible.

It would be high tragedy for FR to sink and die, and I deeply hope that it matures and evolves into an entity that is here on line a hundred years from now in a country still strong, a Republic, with democracy it well serves. I question the ethics and actions of management and some of the most strident of informal leaders among FReepers; but I have no right to think of myself better than they or anyone else; of I commit a personal breach of ethics far worse than anything I believe anyone else here has committed.

232 posted on 03/16/2004 6:19:51 AM PST by bicycle thug (I'm just a Pit bull on the pant leg of opportunity)
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To: Lazamataz
Missed your Anti-Opus the first time around.
One of the funniest things I've ever read! :)
233 posted on 03/16/2004 6:19:59 AM PST by MaryFromMichigan
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To: sauropod
BTW, you don't even know what fascism means.

To him it means anybody who wants to prevent him from sodomizing goats.

234 posted on 03/16/2004 6:20:32 AM PST by Agnes Heep
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To: vannrox
The posters on Free Republic aren't perfect either."

The hell i'm not! ;-).

235 posted on 03/16/2004 6:21:01 AM PST by sauropod (I intend to have Red Kerry choke on his past.)
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To: bicycle thug
Al says: "Don't let the door hit you on the way out!"

236 posted on 03/16/2004 6:21:38 AM PST by Poser
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To: bicycle thug
Lighten up, Francis. I've been hanging around these environs for about six years and seen every shade of opinion, political or otherwise, freely posted. The only requirements as far as I can see are the same as those which used to apply to your average grade school playground. Comments should avoid the "seven words you can't say on television" and have at least a whiff of a relationship with reality.

Are there a few folks here who might feel comfortable in brownshirts and armbands? Sure, but IMHO they are a small minority. If you want to see a genuine group of "fascists", that is people who believe in rigid order enforced by an all wise and all powerful elite group of leaders, look around the room at your next meeting of the "Pacific Green Party", or go enjoy yourself at "that other site".

Most of the people here are strong believers in live and let live. However, there's another side to that coin, namely anyone or any authority who wants to harm me or mine, confiscate my property for the enrichment of others, or dictate how I live my life is treading dangerous ground. That isn't fascism, that is just a strongly worded expression of what individual (G*d given, not government granted) freedom means.

237 posted on 03/16/2004 6:21:50 AM PST by katana
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To: Agnes Heep
Don't knock it until you tried it!!!


238 posted on 03/16/2004 6:22:42 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: tkathy
Typical muddled liberal thinking. Confusing degeneracy with freedom, rights without responsibility.

"Tree-Hugging" and all that nonsense is all about what they are learning in our universities today! Ferret go and hug a tree or two today!
239 posted on 03/16/2004 6:26:51 AM PST by danamco
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To: bicycle thug
Tell us how you feel about the E.L.F. terrorist who just got arrested? Think he's cool, right?
240 posted on 03/16/2004 6:30:02 AM PST by mabelkitty (A tuning, a Vote in the topic package to the starting US presidency election fight)
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