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Ferret: why I'm alarmed by FR & will never post here ever again (except for my 9 replies & counting)
Originally posted elsewhere ^ | 2004-03-08 | Michael Joseph McCarthy

Posted on 03/16/2004 4:38:03 AM PST by bicycle thug

Edited on 03/16/2004 5:17:47 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Mod update: To put this "opus" in perspective, some additional information compliments of a thorough FReeper, dighton.

From a Kerry in 2004 Meetup page, via google cache:

bicyclethug (Eugene, OR)

I am Michael Joseph McCarthy, well known forest activist in Eugene, Oregon who ran against Scott Meisner for City Council last election. I am a Member of the Pacific Green Party who wants this scoundrel in office now thrown out.

72 posted on 03/16/2004 5:05:43 AM PST by dighton


Begin "opus":

Fascism in Free Republic manifests itself as extreme ideology that celebrates themselves as solely representing the nation as an organic community transcending all other loyalties. It emphasizes a myth of national rebirth after a period of decline or destruction. Liberalism is the prime keyword to represent the "problem" group causing the "decay and disruption of "proper" American life.

The FR reminds me of the typical fascist call for a "spiritual revolution" against signs of moral decay such as individualism and materialism, and calls to purge "alien" forces and groups that threaten the organic community. Fascism tends to celebrate masculinity, mystical unity, and the regenerative power of violence. Often, but not always, it promotes racial superiority doctrines, ethnic persecution, imperialist expansion, and genocide. At the same time, fascists may embrace a form of internationalism based on either racial or ideological solidarity across national boundaries. Usually fascism espouses open male supremacy, though sometimes it may also promote female solidarity and new opportunities for women of the privileged nation or race.

FR's call to purge Liberalism and to install a conservative only lifestyle in these United States is not realistic under the auspices of the U.S. Constitution which is designed for all groups of all types and classes to be protected from the domination and authority of the dominant group.

The FR calls for the establishment of a dominant group - their brand of Conservatives - that keeps all the others in line including conservatives "who don't think right on various topics. The virtual community has degenerated into a witch hunt for any and all "untrue thinkers," who must be purged at all costs.

FR's approach to politics is both populist--in that it seeks to activate "the people" as a whole against perceived oppressors or enemies - and elitist - in that it treats the people's will as embodied in a select group, or often one prime iconic leader whose authority flows downward only. FR, in typical Fascist style seeks to organize a cadre-led mass movement in a drive to seize state power. It seeks to forcibly subordinate all spheres of society to its ideological vision of what a community is, and the end result of their game is totalitarianism, pure and simple.

Both as a movement and a regime, fascism uses mass organizations as a system of integration and control, and uses organized violence to suppress opposition, although the scale of violence varies widely. FReepers unethically disrupts polls, hacks and disrupts other sites, and uses real or perceived disruption by others of their site as a rallying point to drive home a wedge between them and any group not belonging to the FReeper movement to reshape America.

Fascism is hostile to Marxism, liberalism, and even true conservatism, yet it borrows concepts and practices from all three. Jim Rob's blend of conservatism and use as advocacy of George W. Bush to insure that the right thinkers who know how to follow orders stay on board builds an obedience and cohesion to central authority. He wishes to create an entity that can influence people like Bush to fall into sync with his goals by offering an effective vehicle to mobilize and control people on the grass roots level as he has proved to people like the President that he indeed can do things like galvanize and grow the Klamath water rights for farmers issue.

JimRob is shrewd, he wishes to influence those in higher office and at the same time remold the electorate into a cohesive force that can roll over any group that gets in it's way in a very unconstitutional fashion.

The FR exploits real grievances against capitalists and landowners through ethnic (or in the Free Republic's case the classic homosexual wedge issue) scapegoating or radical- sounding conspiracy theories. They reject the liberal doctrines of individual autonomy and rights, political pluralism, and representative government, yet it advocates broad popular participation in politics and may use parliamentary channels in its drive to power.

Its vision of a "new order" clashes with the conservative attachment to tradition-based institutions and hierarchies, and much like fascism, they often romanticizes the past as inspiration for national rebirth.

Fascism always has had a complex relationship with established elites and the non-fascist right much like the FR does. It strives to be not a mere puppet of the ruling class, but an autonomous movement with its own social base. In practice, they defend capitalism against instability and the left, but also they pursue an agenda that sometimes clashes with capitalist interests in significant ways.

I have watched and studied the FR with going horror as this culture has grown more malignant and horrifying over the years. Any and all peoples and nations are vulnerable to the disease of fascism, and thought I am sure JimRob and company started with the best of intentions, over the years they have cognitively grown more hostile and unreasonable to anyone not of an elite brand of FReeper. The road to fascism is so incremental it sneaks in and decades later people always wonder how the heck it happened. And it is happening at that particular virtual community, make no mistake about it.

I have always wanted to see the FR grow up. Journalism in these United States was reactionary and lacked accountability in the early years of our nation and as it evolved it was forced to grow up. I want the FR to flourish and to grow up ethically and responsibly, with a measure of respect and empathy for those other groups that blend with them to form our great nation.

But it hasn't, and it has grown into an entity quite alarming. If FReepers care and act now, they can take back a precious jewel of a forum bought and paid for by them that fills an important need in their lives.

If this doesn't happen, we will crush the FR and remove it like a malignant tumor before it destroys what we collectively hold dear; The United States of America as we know it with our Constitution as is works now with it's checks and balances there to prevent Fascist and totalitarian entities from taking us and the world on the road to incredible destruction and human misery.

. This is a critically important topic, and people have leadership and intuitive skills that can either debunk me, or develop tools to reform FR and make it responsible and ethical as it should be. I don't hate and nurse disdain for the Free Republic, I deeply care and want the best for FReepers. And it hurts deeply and horribly to articulate my thoughts and fears here, as FReepers are indeed special people who do not deserve to be used, and to have bad things happen to them, or to be manipulated to cause bad things to happen to others.

Peace, and respect to all.


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To: bicycle thug
Ever heard of Kevan Smith? He's the local Green Party prez here. He also serves as a pretty good DJ at the local NPR affiliate, spinning classical CDs.

I went to college with him. He's not a bad guy. Just a little meloncholy and confused politically.
161 posted on 03/16/2004 5:39:15 AM PST by Skooz (My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3)
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To: bicycle thug
Malignant tumor?

Fascism?

You may well have something interesting or important to say, but it's completely submerged in hyperbole and overwrought writing.

Here's a hint from a professional writer: get rid of the $2 words and the rambling style. It is fatal to use vocabulary beyond your understanding. C.S. Lewis once said that all theologians should try to translate their writings into plain English, because the professional vocabulary often simply disguises the fact that they don't know what they're talking about.

The same holds true for politics. You seem to be using the vocabulary of the professional political agitator, without having the slightest idea what any of it means.

162 posted on 03/16/2004 5:39:25 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of Venery (recess appointment ) TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. . .)
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To: hellinahandcart
This is really going to bring down your Opus grade.

:O)

163 posted on 03/16/2004 5:40:50 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: bicycle thug
Bicycle thug has redefined the epithet "fascist" to suit himself, defined "Freeper" to suit himself, and then announced that the two words mean the same thing. It's a grandiose version of name-calling.

Essentially, he has stuck his tongue out at FR.

That's about all it means.

164 posted on 03/16/2004 5:41:02 AM PST by Savage Beast ("Vote Democrat!" ~Osama bin Laden)
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To: bicycle thug
Guess you're off to torch another SUV.

Good luck in your endeavors, loser.
165 posted on 03/16/2004 5:41:10 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (So you're a feminist - isn't that cute!)
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To: leadpenny
Good to see ya, Laz.

:o)

It's good to be obscene. :o)

166 posted on 03/16/2004 5:41:16 AM PST by Lazamataz (How to turn a 'Basher into a 'Bot: LET THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN SUNSET!!!!)
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To: Catspaw
"Oh, of course you were. But that's what Opuses are for. Maybe not Opettes, but an Opus is an exercise in "I'm a Legend in My Own Mind" territory." I have to laugh as you are very much on the money. I have been guilty of taking myself too seriously, and like everyone else, I have the obligation to remember not to so lose perspective I cannot remember to keep my own ego in check. Thanks for the good post.
167 posted on 03/16/2004 5:41:33 AM PST by bicycle thug (I'm just a Pit bull on the pant leg of opportunity)
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To: bicycle thug
If I am truly well debunked, I would be most pleased.

LOL You'll be pleased to be debunked, even though you went on the Kerry meetup page to post this:

I am a Member of the Pacific Green Party who wants this scoundrel in office now thrown out.

You are lying to someone, but no one is buying it (except maybe kerberos...LOL).

168 posted on 03/16/2004 5:41:45 AM PST by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: bicycle thug
You seem[ed] like a nice guy. Sorry to see you go.
169 posted on 03/16/2004 5:42:31 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Lazamataz
Hey Laz, good to see you.

I've had a few good discussions with ferret over the years. I had always believed his motives were genuine though methods were misbegotten (IMHO) and were certainly not something I agreed with.

I am afraid he revealed a little too much of his true nature here. This rant marks him, IMHO, as an abject socialist at best, and more likely a marxist or anarchist sympathiser. The latter leads to the former, hand in hand. It is their method and way, the true definition of useful idiots.

On top of that, despite the disagreement he has with JR and FR, he has been banned and returned under different names, knowing well the proprietor's wishes. He has posted articles from sites the proprietor has indicated he did not want the info from. In short, he has, and is showing total disrespect and disregard for the rights of the owner here...not too out of keeping with the anarchists he tries to warn about.

He may have (from his perspective) cause for his disagreements...but he compounds his own problem and reveals something about his character by carrying on in the way I just described. It is not something to be respected IMHO.

Sad thing.

Take care bro. Good to see you in passing.

170 posted on 03/16/2004 5:43:02 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Lazamataz
They wore *me* out.

It also didn't help that my hard drive died and I lost all my pictures of #7 WTC on fire, the Pentagon with a hole the size of an airplane in it before the walls collapsed, etc. It'll take me forever to find all those pics again.
171 posted on 03/16/2004 5:43:12 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: AnAmericanMother
His writing is corpuliscious without the compunction of the libido ranked Phoenician.
172 posted on 03/16/2004 5:43:25 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: sauropod; Neets
It's creepy how much these zombies whine and moan about how much they hate and loathe FreeRepublic, in between the comforting words of fellow zombies, such as "Oh, I used to be upset about FreeRepublic, now instead of just clinching my teeth and making fists I calmly walk over and kick the dog instead!"

This opus, as an example, claims that FR is "a precious jewel of a forum" (for fascism). There is a high level of irrationality apparent.

173 posted on 03/16/2004 5:44:08 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: reagan_fanatic
I have been very critical of criminal activities such as that Earth Liberation Front activity of which you speak. I would never torch someone else's private - or public - property.

That solves nothing, and critically harms anything resembling defense of the planet, and her blessing of life on it; including the human race.

I am pleased that Tre Arrow has been caught. He needs to be made accountable for his actions if convicted of the crimes he is accused of.

174 posted on 03/16/2004 5:45:51 AM PST by bicycle thug (I'm just a Pit bull on the pant leg of opportunity)
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To: bicycle thug
Thanks for your input.
175 posted on 03/16/2004 5:45:51 AM PST by HIDEK6
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To: Savage Beast
Essentially, he has stuck his tongue out at FR.

I would venture that he stuck out a different part of his anatomy.

And then promptly stepped on it.

176 posted on 03/16/2004 5:46:01 AM PST by dirtboy (Howard, we hardly knew ye. Not that we're complaining, mind you...)
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To: JimVT
Dude. Relax... nobody hates you and it wasn't about the picture. It was the subtitle that was a bit over the edge. No big deal, I get sh-- err stuff pulled all the time. Rework it and be a little more subtle.
177 posted on 03/16/2004 5:47:15 AM PST by myself6 (Nazi = socialist democrat=socialist therefore democrat = Nazi)
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To: dirtboy
What is he? The human tripod of posters?
178 posted on 03/16/2004 5:47:24 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: JimVT
Had you simply posted the picture, it would still be up.
179 posted on 03/16/2004 5:48:13 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: InvisibleChurch
I watch with amazement as the leftists quickly drift leftward out to sea, all the while screaming that the lighthouse on shore is moving to the right. This country is, by any standard, more liberal than it has ever been, yet they claim we are on the edge of fascism. BTW, note how they redefine fascism to suit their purposes.
180 posted on 03/16/2004 5:48:33 AM PST by BadAndy (Liberalism is a mental illness.)
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