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Ferret: why I'm alarmed by FR & will never post here ever again (except for my 9 replies & counting)
Originally posted elsewhere ^ | 2004-03-08 | Michael Joseph McCarthy

Posted on 03/16/2004 4:38:03 AM PST by bicycle thug

Edited on 03/16/2004 5:17:47 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Mod update: To put this "opus" in perspective, some additional information compliments of a thorough FReeper, dighton.

From a Kerry in 2004 Meetup page, via google cache:

bicyclethug (Eugene, OR)

I am Michael Joseph McCarthy, well known forest activist in Eugene, Oregon who ran against Scott Meisner for City Council last election. I am a Member of the Pacific Green Party who wants this scoundrel in office now thrown out.

72 posted on 03/16/2004 5:05:43 AM PST by dighton


Begin "opus":

Fascism in Free Republic manifests itself as extreme ideology that celebrates themselves as solely representing the nation as an organic community transcending all other loyalties. It emphasizes a myth of national rebirth after a period of decline or destruction. Liberalism is the prime keyword to represent the "problem" group causing the "decay and disruption of "proper" American life.

The FR reminds me of the typical fascist call for a "spiritual revolution" against signs of moral decay such as individualism and materialism, and calls to purge "alien" forces and groups that threaten the organic community. Fascism tends to celebrate masculinity, mystical unity, and the regenerative power of violence. Often, but not always, it promotes racial superiority doctrines, ethnic persecution, imperialist expansion, and genocide. At the same time, fascists may embrace a form of internationalism based on either racial or ideological solidarity across national boundaries. Usually fascism espouses open male supremacy, though sometimes it may also promote female solidarity and new opportunities for women of the privileged nation or race.

FR's call to purge Liberalism and to install a conservative only lifestyle in these United States is not realistic under the auspices of the U.S. Constitution which is designed for all groups of all types and classes to be protected from the domination and authority of the dominant group.

The FR calls for the establishment of a dominant group - their brand of Conservatives - that keeps all the others in line including conservatives "who don't think right on various topics. The virtual community has degenerated into a witch hunt for any and all "untrue thinkers," who must be purged at all costs.

FR's approach to politics is both populist--in that it seeks to activate "the people" as a whole against perceived oppressors or enemies - and elitist - in that it treats the people's will as embodied in a select group, or often one prime iconic leader whose authority flows downward only. FR, in typical Fascist style seeks to organize a cadre-led mass movement in a drive to seize state power. It seeks to forcibly subordinate all spheres of society to its ideological vision of what a community is, and the end result of their game is totalitarianism, pure and simple.

Both as a movement and a regime, fascism uses mass organizations as a system of integration and control, and uses organized violence to suppress opposition, although the scale of violence varies widely. FReepers unethically disrupts polls, hacks and disrupts other sites, and uses real or perceived disruption by others of their site as a rallying point to drive home a wedge between them and any group not belonging to the FReeper movement to reshape America.

Fascism is hostile to Marxism, liberalism, and even true conservatism, yet it borrows concepts and practices from all three. Jim Rob's blend of conservatism and use as advocacy of George W. Bush to insure that the right thinkers who know how to follow orders stay on board builds an obedience and cohesion to central authority. He wishes to create an entity that can influence people like Bush to fall into sync with his goals by offering an effective vehicle to mobilize and control people on the grass roots level as he has proved to people like the President that he indeed can do things like galvanize and grow the Klamath water rights for farmers issue.

JimRob is shrewd, he wishes to influence those in higher office and at the same time remold the electorate into a cohesive force that can roll over any group that gets in it's way in a very unconstitutional fashion.

The FR exploits real grievances against capitalists and landowners through ethnic (or in the Free Republic's case the classic homosexual wedge issue) scapegoating or radical- sounding conspiracy theories. They reject the liberal doctrines of individual autonomy and rights, political pluralism, and representative government, yet it advocates broad popular participation in politics and may use parliamentary channels in its drive to power.

Its vision of a "new order" clashes with the conservative attachment to tradition-based institutions and hierarchies, and much like fascism, they often romanticizes the past as inspiration for national rebirth.

Fascism always has had a complex relationship with established elites and the non-fascist right much like the FR does. It strives to be not a mere puppet of the ruling class, but an autonomous movement with its own social base. In practice, they defend capitalism against instability and the left, but also they pursue an agenda that sometimes clashes with capitalist interests in significant ways.

I have watched and studied the FR with going horror as this culture has grown more malignant and horrifying over the years. Any and all peoples and nations are vulnerable to the disease of fascism, and thought I am sure JimRob and company started with the best of intentions, over the years they have cognitively grown more hostile and unreasonable to anyone not of an elite brand of FReeper. The road to fascism is so incremental it sneaks in and decades later people always wonder how the heck it happened. And it is happening at that particular virtual community, make no mistake about it.

I have always wanted to see the FR grow up. Journalism in these United States was reactionary and lacked accountability in the early years of our nation and as it evolved it was forced to grow up. I want the FR to flourish and to grow up ethically and responsibly, with a measure of respect and empathy for those other groups that blend with them to form our great nation.

But it hasn't, and it has grown into an entity quite alarming. If FReepers care and act now, they can take back a precious jewel of a forum bought and paid for by them that fills an important need in their lives.

If this doesn't happen, we will crush the FR and remove it like a malignant tumor before it destroys what we collectively hold dear; The United States of America as we know it with our Constitution as is works now with it's checks and balances there to prevent Fascist and totalitarian entities from taking us and the world on the road to incredible destruction and human misery.

. This is a critically important topic, and people have leadership and intuitive skills that can either debunk me, or develop tools to reform FR and make it responsible and ethical as it should be. I don't hate and nurse disdain for the Free Republic, I deeply care and want the best for FReepers. And it hurts deeply and horribly to articulate my thoughts and fears here, as FReepers are indeed special people who do not deserve to be used, and to have bad things happen to them, or to be manipulated to cause bad things to happen to others.

Peace, and respect to all.


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To: bicycle thug
I am Michael Joseph McCarthy, well known forest activist in Eugene, Oregon

How can you be "well known" if I've never heard of you?

141 posted on 03/16/2004 5:29:52 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: bicycle thug
Facist?

You might have never seen CNN/CBS/ABC/NBC/MSNBC?

Talk about facist!
142 posted on 03/16/2004 5:30:03 AM PST by Preachin'
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To: bicycle thug
You want to see Fascism?

Wait until the Greens take over.
143 posted on 03/16/2004 5:30:25 AM PST by Skooz (My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3)
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To: bicycle thug
Ferret, I know you actually do want FR to succeed. You've often mentioned that the only way to keep YOUR sides excesses in check is to have a vibrant and healthy body on our side, holding the left accountable.

But I would have rewritten this if I were you. A LOT. For example, this: "we will crush the FR and remove it like a malignant tumor" is absolutely inflamatory and serves no purpose other than to set others faces against you.

Oh well. Too late now. I think you squandered an opportunity to try to have a good discussion on the things you are concerned about.

144 posted on 03/16/2004 5:31:41 AM PST by Lazamataz (How to turn a 'Basher into a 'Bot: LET THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN SUNSET!!!!)
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To: bicycle thug
Do I have your permission to thread parent my thread here?

Don't you know that one of the major problems in America today is bad thread parenting?

(I've heard it can lead to fascism.)

145 posted on 03/16/2004 5:31:45 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: hellinahandcart
LOL! Do you think he might also have broken a heel off one of his shoes?
146 posted on 03/16/2004 5:32:20 AM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: Catspaw
I am only well known locally. I am indeed no better than anyone else. I wasn't trying to insinuate that I was.
147 posted on 03/16/2004 5:32:24 AM PST by bicycle thug (I'm just a Pit bull on the pant leg of opportunity)
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To: sauropod
I don't like W. I don't like generally his big gubbermint stance on just about everything. But I dislike infantile thumbsucking collectivist types that support the other side even worse. That includes the RATS.

This just about sums up my feelings on the matter. Fascism? I sure wish the communist mind set would find a different whipping boy than that old cliche'. It always rings out as a clarion that the doofus doesn't know what he's talking about.

148 posted on 03/16/2004 5:32:43 AM PST by Thommas
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To: Lazamataz
They're still going over the WTC collapse over there? Oh dear, what a waste of time.

It won't matter how many times you debunk it, they will just post the identical mess somewhere else. I think the strategy is to wear all the debunkers out.
149 posted on 03/16/2004 5:34:02 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Is there an anti-opus list?

I wrote the original Anti-Opus.

150 posted on 03/16/2004 5:34:20 AM PST by Lazamataz (How to turn a 'Basher into a 'Bot: LET THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN SUNSET!!!!)
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To: Coop
No, I was afraid he'd crush me and remove me like a malignant tumor. Those green bicycle thugs give me the willies.
151 posted on 03/16/2004 5:35:08 AM PST by Lead Moderator
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To: Skooz
No need to wait. He already telegraphed to us what the environment will look like in his rant...

If this doesn't happen, we will crush the FR and remove it like a malignant tumor

Lost all respect for his views and opinions (which I did not agree with in the first placed but hoped might at least be genuine) with that comment, one he made after suggesting that FR should be more open and work with other groups to promote his brand of liberty.

Very disappointing...very revealing.

152 posted on 03/16/2004 5:35:17 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: bicycle thug
I am only well known locally. I am indeed no better than anyone else. I wasn't trying to insinuate that I was.

Oh, of course you were. But that's what Opuses are for. Maybe not Opettes, but an Opus is an exercise in "I'm a Legend in My Own Mind" territory.

153 posted on 03/16/2004 5:35:23 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: Lazamataz
Your point is well taken, and I would like to see Free Republic survive. I agree I should have edited that part of the post before transferring it here.

This thread is intended to foster diolog in any event. If I am truly well debunked, I would be most pleased.
154 posted on 03/16/2004 5:35:48 AM PST by bicycle thug (I'm just a Pit bull on the pant leg of opportunity)
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To: hellinahandcart
They're still going over the WTC collapse over there? Oh dear, what a waste of time.

It's a little (a lot) nutty. I guess they overlook the contribution of TWO FREAKIN' AIRLINERS PLOWING INTO THE DAMNED BUILDINGS!!! (sheesh).

It won't matter how many times you debunk it, they will just post the identical mess somewhere else. I think the strategy is to wear all the debunkers out.

You might be right.

155 posted on 03/16/2004 5:36:09 AM PST by Lazamataz (How to turn a 'Basher into a 'Bot: LET THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN SUNSET!!!!)
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To: bicycle thug
Comment #36 Removed by Moderator

Hey, Moderator....or anybody else.....please explain where I have offended any sensibilities by posting a picture of two cats from this jerk's home page??????????

156 posted on 03/16/2004 5:36:16 AM PST by JimVT (.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
Or inadvertently tucked his skirt into his pantyhose? That's another thing you don't want to do before making a dramatic exit...
157 posted on 03/16/2004 5:37:20 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: Fierce Allegiance; *Opus List
Thanks!

*Opus List

158 posted on 03/16/2004 5:37:26 AM PST by Constitution Day (Go to Hell Carolina!)
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To: Lazamataz
Laz, you are an original! (Precious Moments... very good!)
159 posted on 03/16/2004 5:37:31 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (Much of your pain is self-chosen. --- Kahlil Gibran)
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To: Jeff Head; bicycle thug
Lost all respect for his views and opinions (which I did not agree with in the first placed but hoped might at least be genuine) with that comment, one he made after suggesting that FR should be more open and work with other groups to promote his brand of liberty. Very disappointing...very revealing.

As if you needed any more proof of my point, ferret.... here's a VERY good guy, a VERY level-headed and influential patriot who's completely tuned you out because of that one phrase.

Oh well. Live and learn, I guess.

160 posted on 03/16/2004 5:39:02 AM PST by Lazamataz (How to turn a 'Basher into a 'Bot: LET THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN SUNSET!!!!)
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