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URGENT: Breaking: 5 Missionaries shot in Mosul, Iraq - Prayer Alert
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Posted on 03/15/2004 12:13:01 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus

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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
I'm not sure they endangered anyone but themselves. And, frankly I'm pleased that the Apostle Paul didn't wait for an escort....outside of the Spirit, that is.
81 posted on 03/15/2004 4:33:11 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
Apostle Paul would have known that thousands of fellow Saints were also working in Iraq, and would have taken care to follow simple precautions to protect his brothers, I think.
82 posted on 03/15/2004 5:04:00 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ("(We)..come to rout out tyranny from its nest. Confusion to the enemy." - B. Taylor, US Marine)
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To: Salvation
Prayer bump. It seems that bad news comes all at once, I think we need to re-double our prayers in the war on terror.
83 posted on 03/15/2004 6:20:49 PM PST by tiki
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Here's the information from the International Mission Board.

http://www.imb.org/core/story.asp?ID=1415
84 posted on 03/15/2004 7:02:09 PM PST by computerjunkie
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Prayers offered.
85 posted on 03/16/2004 12:37:00 AM PST by TEXOKIE (Hold fast what thou hast received!)
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To: CedarDave
Amen Brother!
86 posted on 03/16/2004 5:25:30 AM PST by tob2 (Old Fossil and proud of it!)
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To: Lady Heron
I agree.

But I think the only way to achieve Islamic cleansing is the same way the Muslims enforced Islam over the entire Middle East, North Africa, and, for a while, all of the Balkans, Iberia, Sicily and southern Italy - by the sword they so much admire.

Convert or die!!
87 posted on 03/16/2004 6:05:02 AM PST by ZULU (God Bless Senator Joe McCarthy!!!)
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To: highlander_UW
During the Battle of Springfield, New Jersey in the American Revolution, a minister tore up his bibles and gave the pages to American soldiers to use as wadding for their muskets.

I fear this is the only message Muslims understand.
88 posted on 03/16/2004 6:07:00 AM PST by ZULU (God Bless Senator Joe McCarthy!!!)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
From the nbc6 (Charlotte, NC) web site:

Four Baptist missionaries looking for a way to bring clean water to northern Iraq died after a suprise attack, their employer said.

The latest victim, David E. McDonnall, 28, of Rowlett, Texas, died Tuesday morning while en route to a military support hospital in Baghdad. Four U.S. military surgeons worked for six hours to save his life, according to the Southern Baptist International Mission Board.

His wife, Carrie Taylor McDonnall, 26, is listed in critical condition, the mission board reported. No other missionaries were with the group.

The other three victims were identified as Larry T. Elliott, 60, and Jean Dover Elliott, 58, of Cary, N.C.; and Karen Denise Watson, 38, of Bakersfield, Calif.

The Elliotts were scouting the best location in Iraq for a water purification project, said Michelle DeVoss of Cary, whose First Baptist Church in the Raleigh suburb was home when the Elliotts returned from Honduras, where they had been missionaries since 1978.

"They were fully aware of the risk and they were just called to do it," said DeVoss, who hosted a welcome-back party at her home for the Elliotts in January.

Watson was a detention officer with the Kern County Sheriff's Department in Bakersfield before joining the Richmond, Va.-based mission board in January 2003, said Bill Bangham, a spokesman for the group that coordinates missionary activities for the Southern Baptist Convention. She arrived in Iraq earlier this month to help the Elliotts and others study how best to allocate the mission board's humanitarian efforts, Bangham said.

U.S. Lt. Col. Joseph Piek, a spokesman for American forces in the northern city of Mosul, said in an e-mail message that the victims were traveling Monday in a car on the eastern side of Mosul when they were attacked. A Pentagon spokesman didn't immediately return calls Tuesday seeking additional comment.

The four died from bullet and shell fragment wounds from automatic weapons and rocket-propelled grenades, according to the mission board's Web site.

Larry Elliott had experience in disaster relief that included helping Honduras recover from Hurricane Mitch in 1998, DeVoss said. He first traveled to Iraq last month to survey the country's needs and his wife joined him a few weeks later, DeVoss said. The couple planned to return to their home in the Honduran capital of Tegucigalpa later this month and move permanently to Iraq in June, she said.

"These are two of the most tender-hearted and on-fire Christians I have ever met," said DeVoss, who lived in the Elliotts' home during a November mission trip to Honduras with her husband and 10-year-old son.

"Larry had a fantastic, deep, belly laugh. He enjoyed life and yet served with so much enthusiasm," DeVoss said. "Jean had a heart of gold. She opened her home every time there was a mission group. She just accepted people into her home like they were family."

Larry Elliott was born in South Boston, Va., and grew up in Granville County, Bangham said. Jean Elliott was born and grew up in Shelby.

Every few years, they would return to the U.S. on a furlough and live in Cary for a few weeks in the former parsonage behind the First Baptist Church, said Keith Stevens, chairman of the 2,000-member church's board of deacons.

Larry Kingsley, a church deacon who coordinated the mission work of First Baptist's members, said Larry Elliott had an engineering degree from North Carolina State University.

"He was a person who could just do anything," Kingsley said. He said during one trip to Honduras, he and the Elliotts poured concrete and stationed reinforced beams to raise a church and school.

Unlike their years of working and preaching in Central America, Kingsley said, the Elliotts understood that their humanitarian work in Iraq would focus on helping human needs rather than ministering to souls.

"They knew going into Iraq, they couldn't really share their Christian faith unless somebody asked them," Kingsley said. "They were there in a humanitarian situation. ... They were people who just had a great heart for helping people out."

The Elliotts are survived by two sons, one of them living in the Raleigh area, and a daughter in Texas, DeVoss said.

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May God comfort their families and friends even as He welcomes them Home to their eternal rest!

89 posted on 03/16/2004 7:56:12 AM PST by kayak (Medals do not make a man. Morals do.)
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To: ZULU
During the Battle of Springfield, New Jersey in the American Revolution, a minister tore up his bibles and gave the pages to American soldiers to use as wadding for their muskets. I fear this is the only message Muslims understand.

Islam is not such a megalithic thing that many muslims would have people believe. There are many who are called muslim that simply live in areas controlled by muslims. There are many muslims who practice a syncratic mix of Islam and animism, there are many muslims for whom Islam is simply a culture and not a religion of the heart. There are people who are reaching out, AND being successful amongst muslim peoples.

I had a conversation once with a muslim apologist who was complaining to me how unfair Christian missionary practices were because so many muslims were having visions from God of Jesus and there were so many that were being healed by Jesus that it wasn't fair. I hope he one day realizes what he was saying. Instead of realizing he was witnessing the power of God he seemed to understand there is power in Christianity, but he didn't consider why Jesus would be performing healings when Christian would pray.

90 posted on 03/16/2004 8:02:55 AM PST by highlander_UW
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To: ZULU
i agree,,,its not the place for missionaries no matter what good work they do elsewhere
91 posted on 03/16/2004 8:06:37 AM PST by rrrod
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To: RJS1950
There are lots of civilians in all types of capacities over there right now. Missionaries only a very small part. Missionries know the possibilities going in but know it's worth the risk. In fact Christians are being persecuted in Muslin countries all over the world. We know of 10 locals in Sudan that were killed because they became Christians. BUT, they need the Good News brought to them regardless. They're just following the great commission: "Go into all the world and preach the gospel."

I guess I should pose a question to you. Was Jesus Christ wrong to have preached the good news and to be a sacrifice. After all it was devisive, soldiers had to quell violence, people got killed.
92 posted on 03/16/2004 8:20:57 AM PST by Aggie1 (Life is hard, it's even harder if you're stupid.)
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To: highlander_UW
"Islam is not such a megalithic thing that many muslims would have people believe. There are many who are called muslim that simply live in areas controlled by muslims. There are many muslims who practice a syncratic mix of Islam and animism, there are many muslims for whom Islam is simply a culture and not a religion of the heart."

You have a point there. I guess this is less the case in places like Saudi Arabia or Iran where you have an effective central government and that government is an Islamic theocracy.
93 posted on 03/16/2004 8:27:10 AM PST by ZULU (God Bless Senator Joe McCarthy!!!)
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To: kayak
May God comfort their families and friends even as He welcomes them Home to their eternal rest!

Amen.

Thanks for your updated info.

94 posted on 03/16/2004 8:49:04 AM PST by LibertyAndJusticeForAll
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Don't beat yourself up. The violent death of these loving Christian helpers are tragic in so many ways.

This is war & until the current crisis passes (IGC takes control?) nonessential personnel are a burden for our troops. Prayer works 'long distance ' & God will use humanitarian efforts such as those previously posted on your threads:

"The Marines want to help children like these and improve relations with Iraqis in the 'Sunni Triangle.' " http://www.spiritofamerica.net/req_6/request.html.
95 posted on 03/16/2004 9:28:03 AM PST by getgoing
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To: ZULU
You have a point there. I guess this is less the case in places like Saudi Arabia or Iran where you have an effective central government and that government is an Islamic theocracy.

It is the places with more theocratic governments that are more difficult to reach, but even in such places people are able to reach for God. The people of Iran, for instance, are very warm toward America, it is simply the theocratic government that is against the West. But I don't believe it will remain this way. I know many who are praying for the freedom of the Iranian people. The increasing efforts of the central government to crack down on the population is proof that they are losing their grip a bit. They recently had elections, but to maintain power the hardliners had to abuse their powers as they disqualified between 2500 and 3000 moderate candidates. This has not gone unnoticed by the people of Iran. They know they're being controlled. And in the process, they are getting a good view of the best Islam is able to provide them government wise. Unwittingly, the hardliners are preparing the hearts of the Iranian people to hear the gospel of Jesus Christ.

96 posted on 03/16/2004 10:49:25 AM PST by highlander_UW
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To: getgoing
So many are doing such good in Iraq, and have been from the beginning. You know that, of course.

Our troops being treated like taxi drivers when they risk so much, and are more often called also by God and following their faith ... I don't see a lot of support for our major battle of good vs. evil in our communities, from our churches.

The casual way they treat God's warriors angered me yesterday, but this thread is not the place, and for that I am sorry.

More comments, prayers, pics:

8 Drive-by shooting in Iraq kills four American missionaries on humanitarian project ~ AP | 3/15/04 | Emery P. Dalesio


97 posted on 03/16/2004 5:49:36 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ("(We)..come to rout out tyranny from its nest. Confusion to the enemy." - B. Taylor, US Marine)
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To: tiamat
There are many missionaries in Islamic lands and they do convert many to Christianity. Many of these gentle people work in extremely hazardous regions delivering basic health care and foodstuffs. Although they keep a rather low profile, everyone knows who they are and who they represent. Despite the official Islamic position, they are generally left alone to quietly proselytize and take care of the needs of the local population.

A missionary friend of mine just got home from Africa and he and his mission team baptized 11,000 people in one week. It is a Muslim country.

Missionaries frequently go into areas that are dangerous, otherwise their help would be needed. They are extraordinarily courageous people and deserve our support, financially and in prayer.

At the moment, I have relatives who are missionaries in Tibet and prayers for their safety and success would be much appreciated.

98 posted on 03/16/2004 6:14:44 PM PST by TexanToTheCore
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To: boxerblues
Color me insensitive, but news would be a bunch of Christian missionaries in Mosul not being shot and killed.
Next time someone has the bright idea of sending more, just make a quick phone call to Vegas and get the odds of not getting shot. Now, suicide by religion is a whole other subject...
99 posted on 03/16/2004 6:19:33 PM PST by Publius6961 (50.3% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks (subject to a final count).)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
prayer bump here. we need those people here not in heaven right now.
100 posted on 03/16/2004 6:21:24 PM PST by LauraJean (Fukai please pass the squid sauce)
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