Brinkley: Kerry Faces Questions about Senate Hit Plot

NewsMax ^ | March 14, 2004 | Steve Malzberg

[Gypssy]

Sunday, Mar. 14, 2004 10:49 PM EST Brinkley: Kerry Faces Questions about Senate Hit Plot

What did Sen. John Kerry know and when did he know it about a plot to assassinate pro-Vietnam war U.S. Senators hatched at a November 1971 Kansas City meeting of the group Vietnam Veterans Against America?

According to presidential biographer Douglas Brinkley, that's the question Sen. Kerry needs to answer. If it turns out that the likely Democratic presidential nominee knew of the treasonous plan, Brinkley says he had an obligation to go to the authorities.

"The question is: did Kerry quit [VVAW] before Kansas City or did he quit after Kansas City," Brinkley told WABC Radio's Steve Malzberg. "If he quit after Kansas City, that means he clearly knew about this assassination plot against the Senators and never went to the authorities."

Kerry says he submitted his official letter of resignation to the VVAW just days before the critical Kansas City confab. But two Vietnam veterans who attended the session told the New York Sun on Friday that they remember Kerry was there.

Meanwhile copies of Kerry's resignation letter are nowhere to be found.

Brinkley, whose book "Tour of Duty" chronicles Kerry's Vietnam war exploits, said that the former Navy Lieutenant had an obligation to warn authorities about the frightening plan, telling Malzberg, "Clearly his critics would say, if he had known about it why didn't he report it."

Once put to a vote, the death plot went down to defeat, with Kerry voting in the majority, according to the two witnesses who say he was there.

However, Kerry officials in Florida have recently invited the assassination plan's author, Scott Camil, to join the Senator's campaign, the Sun report claimed.

Brinkley described Camil as "a hothead Vietnam vet who wanted to bring down the U.S. government."

"I'm a little shocked that the Kerry campaign would want him actively working with them in Florida," he told Malzberg.

[raloxk]

" you are either very young and have not paid close attention to other elections, or you are from the left and have an agenda."

Neither. I am a student of history. I see historical trends emerging indicating a loss this fall.

[raloxk]

the most ominious thing for Bush is he cant crack 47% in any poll. Kerry bounces around from 45% to 54%. But Bush is steady. This means the public has decided it doesnt want Bush anymore but doesnt know if it wants Kerry.

Bush in the Rasmussen poll is at 44% today, the loweest in one month.

Electiosn arent decided in Oct, they are decided months sometimes years in advance.


I expect Kerry will win and maybe big. But I also expect buyers remorse within a few months and by this time next year media sotries on Kerry's plummeting approval rating.

[pax_et_bonum]

the issue of Kerry being in a meeting where assassinations were conducted is a dead end issue

You're not conservative.

Liberals are the ones who think that a thing is true just because they say it. Conservatives want the facts.

Your continuing to say that this is a dead issue without more detailed and logical reasoning except that the red and blue map is meaningless or that the public won't buy it is a big enough red flag for me.

Also, if you're going to be a more successful troll you should use better punctuation and grammar.

[raloxk]

"Your continuing to say that this is a dead issue without more detailed and logical reasoning except that the red and blue map is meaningless or that the public won't buy it is a big enough red flag for me."

My reasoning and logic are based on past accusations against those like Clinton adnhow they didnt work and when they didnt the right became even more shrill and turned off the public.


God help the conservative movement if this is what we're going to try and go after Kerry for if he is elected President

[pax_et_bonum]

My reasoning and logic are based on past accusations against those like Clinton adnhow they didnt work and when they didnt the right became even more shrill and turned off the public.

God help the conservative movement if this is what we're going to try and go after Kerry for if he is elected President

Sorry, but this is several internet and Fox News years later. Stories like this have stronger legs than they could have during Clinton's putrid presidency.

Also, let's leave God out of this.

[hummingbird]

I can bet that if Kerry wins. the right wil lbe as loony as the left is now.

The "right" has its negatives but being "as loony as the left is now" is a mighty big stretch. <8^/

[hummingbird]

...you moron...

I probably have this wrong...don't have the greatest memory...but didn't you get zotted or banned or something like that the other day? At any rate, calling someone a "moron" during debate automatically subtracts points from your argument.

If you weren't the one zotted/banned/etc, my apologies.

[raloxk]

no

[hummingbird]

I think the (Bush) AWOL charge was bogus...

I do agree with you on this point, raloxk.

[hummingbird]

one week from now, this will be a dead story

Will this story be...(da, da, da, dum) assasinated?!

[js1138]

As a student of history you seem to have forgotten that when Bush was the challenger he led gore by 10 points or more, right up to the last day. The more people see of Kerry the more they won't like him.

Now if the economy is bad, Bush will lose, but that's beyond our control.

[raloxk]

But the Bush Gore race of 2000 was different because it was an open election.

Look at elections with an incumbent. Right now Bush is following the pattern of Carter and Bush 41.

Luckily for Bush he is running against Kerry and not Edwards

[js1138]

Look at the economy and foreign policy under Carter. And the economy under Bush I. I can't see the future, but if the economy is improving, Bush wins.

I don't know what a major terror strike would do. I think Bush is wise to pressure Kerry on his foreign endorsements. This is a safe way of explaining to Americans that Kerry's softness on terror will be the cause of any terror attack.

[hummingbird]

In a cave for the weekend? haha Well sorta.... Just trying to catch up on everything today. Thanks for the references.

Every time I log off, it feels like I've been in a cave no matter how quickly I log back in! Things happen on FR lightning quick! For example, a poster's flag was Chinese; now, its Georgia. After I post this msg, it could be anything, I guess! Maybe I'll mix it up & change my flag one day...like when we get flags for Mars or the Moon...

"Let's watch!"

[hummingbird]

The lying part isn't going to win the day. But if these witnesses hold to their story, Kerry is in a whole heap of trouble for failing to report this assassination plot. That's the key issue here.

If the plot had gone through, wouldn't he have been some kind of accessory after the fact? Between Monk, Columbo, Matlock ("MATLOCK!" screamed Abe Simpson.), etc, I get my jargon confused sometimes. At any rate, it didn't go through but failure to report is the critical issue, I agree, savedbygrace.

[savedbygrace]

If the plot had gone through, wouldn't he have been some kind of accessory after the fact?

Ah, good thought. Ter-ay-sah shops for accessories all the time, I'm sure.

[hummingbird]

the issue of Kerry being in a meeting where assassinations were conducted is a dead end issue...

Wha...?! Do you write comedy for a living?! Just wondering....

[hummingbird]

Give credit to FReeper Hon for this story. He has done all the work on this.

Good work to the both of youse...

Kerry's behavior & history "read" very surreal:

A US Senator (or his "campaign"), running for US President in 2004, reportedly contacts an assassin advocate from a 1971 anti-war organization (co-founded by the Senator after he returns from a few months in VietNam - you do know he was in Nam, right?! LOL!) to ask the 1971 assassin advocate to work on his election. When pressed for details on his history with the organization and the assassination plot, the senator claims he resigned from the group on that particular issue.

Apparently, while resigning (is there proof of that?), he wasn't sufficiently alarmed to mention to the authorities in 1971 that assassinations were being planned against sitting US Senators.

"Paging Franz Kafka..."

"Oops, he did it again" should be the Kerry campaign theme song.

[hummingbird]

Ah, good thought. Ter-ay-sah shops for accessories all the time, I'm sure.

And now one of her accessories is running for office. Go figure!

[xlib]

So what has Camil done since 1971?

Well, after being acquitted in the "Gainesville Eight" trial in 1973, he remained in Gville, and has been active in various leftist/peace movement causes, most notably "Vietnam Vets for Peace." Sometime in the 80's (I can't recall exactly when) he was arrested and charged with cocaine dealing, but was acquitted. He used an entrapment defense, as I recall, and even though he did make the buy, the police really bungled the case (among other things, undercover agents shot the unarmed Camil in the back while trying to arrest him.) A recent link, about a partial reunion of the Gville 8:

http://www.sunone.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?SearchID=73165571397549&Avis=GS&Dato=20030831&Kategori=LOCAL&Lopenr=208310337&Ref=AR

Please God, let Kerry hire this man, and give him a prominent platform! Kerry will carry Alachua County, and lose the rest of the state!