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It's a World War
Jerusalem Post ^ | March 14, 2003 | Anonymous

Posted on 03/13/2004 7:13:09 PM PST by Piranha

From Bali, Casablanca, and Manhattan to Moscow, New Delhi, and Madrid, the evidence is too vast, clear, and appalling to ignore: The world is at war.

Having been in the thick of this mayhem longer than others, Israel is routinely asked by states victimized by terrorism to help in a variety of aspects, from intelligence gathering and targeted killings to bomb detection and corpse identification. The victims are, of course, doing well to seek such assistance in Israel, and Israel is right in offering it. However, besides such technical aid there is a mental syndrome that frequently afflicts new terrorism targets, and which Israel can help combat: it's called denial.

The haste with which Spanish officials blamed Thursday's atrocities on an organization that insisted it did not perpetrate them, ETA, while stubbornly denying reports that the ones responsible for the Madrid Massacre are those who indeed soon assumed responsibility for it – al-Qaida – reflected a mental refusal to join the list of the fundamentalist scourge's victims.

We in Israel have undergone three different stages of denial before finally realizing that, whether or not we like it, we have got business with the Islamist beast, and that dealing with it must involve less talk and more action.

Some of us may still recall how in the mid-'90s cops, politicians, and the press reflexively attributed several terrorist attacks to regular rather than politically motivated criminals, or how Yitzhak Rabin himself – after the first bus bombings – still insisted that terrorism did not pose a strategic threat. That stage of denial ended as the frequency and magnitude of the terrorist attacks left no room for doubts concerning their origins, resources, and determination.

The next stage of denial was about the cause. For a while, many here thought the terrorists could be either manipulated by Western negotiators or persuaded by Arab leaders to lay down their arms, provided their grievances were heard and some of their demands heeded.

Israel has since learned that terrorism cannot be beaten by satisfying "grievances." America, which until 9/11 was also plagued by the denial syndrome, has since launched a global war on fundamentalist terrorism and Middle East autocracy. Europe, however, has not joined America's ideological cause, and that goes even for Britain, which is Washington's closest EU ally.

Now, some Spaniards can be expected to blame themselves for their own victimization. If Spain had not joined the war on Iraq, they will say, it would not have been attacked. We cannot but implore Spain to avoid that kind of thinking; we've been through all that and can now confidently say that Spain was targeted not for anything it did or failed to do, but for what it is, namely a country that embraces and offers all the freedoms that Muslim fundamentalism detests.

Lastly, even when it finally understands its situation, Spain might still resort to denial when it will come to identifying its enemies. Israel, and the US, initially assumed that most Middle East governments are their partners in the war on terrorism. That was the rationale behind Bill Clinton's gathering of the Sharm e-Sheikh summit in the spring of '96. Sadly, as violence accelerated it emerged that most Middle East regimes are not prepared to actively fight terrorism, and that some are not only not prepared to be part of terrorism's solution but are actually part of its problem.

Spain has been a close friend of most Arab regimes since the days of Franco's rule. While the country's subsequent transition to democracy has fortunately generated formal and healthy ties with Israel, Madrid remained a pillar of Western acquiescence with Arab dictatorship. Last week's carnage should change this.

Spain and the rest of Europe must understand that, just like last century's threat to their future was fascism, this century it is the militant form of Islam, and that just like Nazism's in its time, the jihad's excuses for its mass-murders are not even worth a hearing. Europe must concede it is at war, and has no choice but to fight it until it is won.

The jihadis see Europe and America as a common enemy against which they hope to play divide and conquer. The longer Europe waits to join with America in common cause, the more the war will escalate and spread, including within Europe. The sooner Europe joins the fight, the sooner these massacres will end and the cause of freedom and human rights will prosper.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; israel; spain; terror; terrorism; worldwar; wwiv
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To: zarf
That's exactly what the Europeans have been saying about Palestinian arab mass murderers. Remember Reuters: "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter"?

I repeat: Terrorism against civilians is never justified. Never. Blowing up an opera house? Taking over a cruise ship? Kidnapping hundreds?

You're either with us or you're with the terrorists. Zarf, they're not only WITH the terrorists, they ARE the terrorists.
21 posted on 03/13/2004 8:07:31 PM PST by Piranha
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To: Diogenesis
1968 Robert Kennedy assassinated
Sirhan is Palestinian but was this his reason ? Have to say I've forgotten the details.
22 posted on 03/13/2004 8:24:15 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: Piranha
Don't you find the timing of the latest attacks strange? This will probably help Bush get re-elected and make Europe better allies.....maybe someone has some more input.
23 posted on 03/13/2004 8:29:28 PM PST by TheLion
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To: TheLion
First of all, I learned from another thread that 3/11/04 is exactly 911 days after 9/11/01. Second, al Qaeda may be indifferent to geopolitical issues in the countries where they launch their murderous attacks. Third, if they do care, this may have been a propitious time for them to do this, since the election is in a few days and they hope to incent the Spanish to elect the Socialists and withdraw from support of the Iraqi war. We'll find out pretty quickly what the Spanish electorate is made of.
24 posted on 03/13/2004 8:34:28 PM PST by Piranha
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To: 1066AD
I don't think Sirhan's assassination of Kennedy belongs on the list; he is a Christian, not a Muslim.
25 posted on 03/13/2004 8:36:06 PM PST by Piranha
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To: Diogenesis
I don't think Sirhan's assassination of Kennedy belongs on the list; he is a Christian, not a Muslim.
26 posted on 03/13/2004 8:36:57 PM PST by Piranha
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To: Piranha
during the 1990s, the Israeli government was doing the same.

I am afraid, this process continues.

27 posted on 03/13/2004 8:41:01 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: Piranha
The 911 days is just eerie. As you say, we shall see.
28 posted on 03/13/2004 8:42:05 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Smartass
The jihadis see Europe and America as a common enemy against which they hope to play divide and conquer. The longer Europe waits to join with America in common cause, the more the war will escalate and spread, including within Europe. The sooner Europe joins the fight, the sooner these massacres will end and the cause of freedom and human rights will prosper.

The above statement and your statement are a summary of the two most common-sense arguments to unite against the Islamofacists. The sooner Western Civilization does so (and by Western Civilization I include our worthy allies in Asia), the less of our blood will be spilled.

We should not be overly concerned with how much Muslim blood is spilled because Jihadists will kill innocent Muslims as easily as they kill Infidels. Once the innocent Muslims understand that we cannot spare the Jihadists hiding in their midst, they will the risks of being murdered by the Jihadists are less than becomming peripheral damage. And they will point out the Jihadists-- just as they did in Afghanistan and just as they are now starting to do in Iraq.

Whatever the virtues of Islamism, all but the densest among them will understand without modern civilization, they could not begin to support the populations they are currently supporting.

29 posted on 03/13/2004 9:35:07 PM PST by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trap-door if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: Piranha
"I don't think Sirhan's assassination of Kennedy belongs on the list; he is a Christian, not a Muslim."

IIRC Sirhan said that the reason he shot RFK was because of his pro-Israeli stand. The story was very heavy in the media. You might call the Michael Medved Show and ask him what Sirhan said. I believe Michael was working on the RFK campaign, and he might have been in the hotel where RFK was shot. Anyway, IIRC, the first Muslim shot was fired at Teddy Kennedy's brother. His older brother's shooting is still a mystery.
30 posted on 03/13/2004 9:41:55 PM PST by doxteve
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To: doxteve
I also remember that Sirhan shot Kennedy because he believed Kennedy was too pro-Israel.

I'm not defending Sirhan, obviously. But if we are keeping track of Islamic terror, then as far as I can tell this crime doesn't belong in the list.
31 posted on 03/13/2004 9:48:53 PM PST by Piranha
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To: Piranha
"... Sirhan shot Kennedy because he believed Kennedy was too pro-Israel.

I'm not defending Sirhan, obviously. But if we are keeping track of Islamic terror, then as far as I can tell this crime doesn't belong in the list."

A Palestinian assassinating someone for being too pro-Israel doesn't belong on the list?

I don't know the story very well - I was a little tyke - but your argument seems to put him on the list rather than take him off.

32 posted on 03/13/2004 10:01:19 PM PST by watchin
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To: watchin
Not if the list is Islamic terror. Christians are not Muslims.
33 posted on 03/13/2004 10:05:04 PM PST by Piranha
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To: Piranha
So you're sure he was a Christian? I really don't know.
34 posted on 03/13/2004 10:15:32 PM PST by watchin
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To: Smartass
Ever wonder why they take this stance about making nice with these terrorists. One of their biggest heros after all is Robert F. Kennedy who was assinated by Sirhan Sirhan who was an Arab that had emigrated to the United States and was reportedly disturbed by Kennedy's pro-Israel positions. Makes you wonder about Teddy Kennedy's positions on Terrorism and his moral make up doesn't it?
35 posted on 03/13/2004 10:24:16 PM PST by Gkubly
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To: watchin
According to an old Time Magazine article posted at http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1996/analysis/back.time/9606/10/index.shtml (I know, I know...Time and CNN...but still), Sirhan came from a Greek Orthodox background and attended Evangelical Lutheran schools. The Sirhan family came to the US in 1957, sponsored jointly by UNRWA and the World Council of Churches. Sirhan was a resident alien of the US and a citizen of Jordan.
36 posted on 03/13/2004 10:35:45 PM PST by Piranha
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To: Diogenesis
Thank you for your handywork.
37 posted on 03/13/2004 10:37:04 PM PST by The Westerner
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To: Piranha
their worst fears of an anti-Jewish backlash from the movie.

Excuse, me but I don't believe they're speaking in all sincerity when they try to boo us with an anti-Jewish backlash as a result of this movie.

Oh yes, they are idiots, but not to such an extend... they rather have a (clumsily) hidden agenda. This crowd had no beef with those who depicted Jesus as a gay, or a hippie, or whatever else; or created such eternal works of art as Madonna in Condom (the latter was on show here in Wellington).

But they went ballistic when the deeply religious Gibson tried to convey his vision of the life and death of Jesus...

IMHO, their bias isn't personally anti-Mel or even anti-Christian, it's pro-atheist. Hence, they're pro-terror as well, because I'm absolutely convinced that without true religion we're doomed in our war against Islamic terror.

38 posted on 03/13/2004 10:50:11 PM PST by Neophyte (Nazists, Communists, Islamists... what the heck is the difference?)
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To: Howie66
The very best part of this boy ended up as a stain on a mattress.

You mean, as a ketchup stain?

39 posted on 03/13/2004 10:52:41 PM PST by Neophyte (Nazists, Communists, Islamists... what the heck is the difference?)
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To: 1066AD
Sirhan is Palestininan but was this his reason?

In his (Sirhan) own words, yes. Kennedy's murder was due to his (Kennedy) support of Israel...

the infowarrior

40 posted on 03/13/2004 11:02:46 PM PST by infowarrior (TANSTAAFL)
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