Fines Against Passengers Draw Fire

FOX NEWS ^ | March 12, 2004 | Kelley Beaucar Vlahos

[BulletBobCo]

WASHINGTON

[Mulder]

It's all about perception.

Dominate. Intimidate. Control.

[HighWheeler]

This second statement of yours just nullified your first statement that I commented on.

[Mulder]

Some airline(s) may say to their potential customer base, fly with my airline and you can bring your arm onto my aircraft to help me secure it against potential hijackers.

Very good post. I concur will all of your arguments.

And if an airline would allow the American people to fly armed, I'd buy a ticket tommorrow simply on principle.

[HardStarboard]

My bet is that she liberated the steak knife from some fancy restaurant and got caught.....serves her right.

[Mulder]

Sounds like something my wife would do- or a lot of women I know

They need to get their act together and achieve perfection.

In our quasi-totalitarian police state, making a honest mistake, or doing something that some keyboard commando thinks is "stupid" can get you a felony record.

[WillL]

Free people let the marketplace sort this issue out.

Obviously the free market solution to this would be a private airline that only allows natural-born US citizens as passengers, and refuses to allow Muslims to fly, ever.

I don't know if that's legal -- I doubt it -- but it'd make a ton of money.

[HardStarboard]

My bet is that she liberated the steak knife from some fancy resteraunt and got caught.....serves her right.

[chaosagent]

My wife carries a steak knife in her purse. She works in a hospital. She often gets an apple or orange from the cafeteria to eat on break.

The cafeteria doesn't like people take out their silverware. And if she leaves the knife in her desk, it invariabily walks off.

Since she has done this for years, it would be very possible for her to accidently take it to the airport in her purse if she flew.

[Mulder]

I don't know if that's legal -- I doubt it -- but it'd make a ton of money

If they can violate the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and other amendments under the guise of "airport security", why can't they violate the 14th also (or better yet- instead of the others)?

[WillL]

serves her right

No man is an island, entire of itself

every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main

if a clod be washed away by the sea,

Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were,

as well as if a manor of thy friends or of thine own were

any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind

and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls

it tolls for thee.

-- John Donne

[Bob Mc]

"People carry all manner of things."

Grandma carries a knife. She loves apples but can't eat them whole because of her dentures. A knife is so handy for lots of people.

Does Grandma know about all the new idiotic TSA regulations? No. Is Grandma going to hijack a plane with that knife? No. Where's the crime? Where's the victim? Just take the stupid knife, tell her why, and let her go on!

[Mulder]

Since she has done this for years, it would be very possible for her to accidently take it to the airport in her purse if she flew.

And in the minds of many sheeple, that makes her a moron, a thief, and a terrorist.

And in a few years, if the police state continues to expand, it will make her an inmate at a federal gulag.

[Squantos]

Agree with that 101% !

[Mulder]

Does Grandma know about all the new idiotic TSA regulations?

Obviously grandma is working clandestinely with Al Queda.

Admit it, she just hates Freedom.

[WillL]

Grandma carries a knife. She loves apples but can't eat them whole because of her dentures.

A likely story. Sounds more like Grandma is a bomb-toting raghead! </ TSA >

[tracer]

“The civil penalties really help TSA to ensure that individuals traveling with dangerous items think twice before approaching the security checkpoint,” said Yolanda Clark (search), spokeswoman for the TSA. “We are committed to keeping air travelers safe.”

It is clear from this incident that, in reality, they don't, Yolanda. And you would be amazed by the field-expedient weapons that can be and no doubt are brought onto aircraft every day.

You see, the trick is to be smarter and more creative than the tangos -- and the hundreds of unthinking yet harmless passengers you so love to harass.

But you and your band of under-trained, TV-fed underachievers aren't and never will be. And it shows, to the extent that it has become common knowledge among the traveling public who have become very sick and tired of you and your pals.

Notwithstanding your trying to make "examples" out of the likes of Susan Campbell while waving shady characters right on through and past quaking octogenarians with walkers and in wheelchairs......

[tracer]

"...Campbell, the deputy director of the National Immigration Law Center."

On second thought, it would appear that she is a deserving recipient of the hosing she received.....

[Ronaldus Magnus]

I have a jacket with a small hole in the pocket that seems to eat a small percentage of the ammunition I put in it. Any idea what the penalty would be for a 22lr shell lost in the lining of a coat? My guess is that it would involve free room and board in Club Fed!

[WillL]

free room and board in Club Fed

According to some on this thread, that would serve you right.

[an amused spectator]

No hijacker armed only with bladed weapons less than 6" long is ever again going to be allowed to take over an aircraft; even armed with a pair of 18" short swords it'd be dicey.

I'll go even farther and say that hijackers with automatic weapons will have a hard time taking and holding a plane without killing most or all of the passengers.

Yeah, I'm just going to sit there and wait till Mohammed flies the plane into a building because he's got an AK-47.

Hijackers with knives are going to get laughed at before the passengers take away the knives and begin performing random amputations.