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New law to ban swords
The Herald Sun(Australia) ^ | 09mar04 | Peter Mickelburough

Posted on 03/12/2004 12:09:38 PM PST by neverdem

New law to ban swords Peter Mickelburough, state politics reporter 09mar04

SWORDS will be outlawed from July under new laws to curb the growing use of the weapons in street brawls.

Police Minister Andre Haermeyer said the ban would help police overcome a culture of young people arming themselves with swords. "For most people running around the street carrying swords there is absolutely no reason for them to be carrying those weapons," he said yesterday.

From July, anyone found possessing or selling a sword without a permit will face up to six months' jail and fines of up to $12,000.

Existing sword owners must surrender their weapons to police, sell them to a licensed dealer or apply to the Chief Commissioner for specific approval.

Collectors and people with legitimate cultural, religious or military reasons to own swords will be exempted from the ban, but must store them under lock and key and have a burglar alarm.

The sword ban follows a string of recent attacks and a regulatory impact statement undertaken by the State Government last year.

Last week, a 13-year-old boy was arrested and charged after allegedly charging police with a sword near Castlemaine, in central Victoria.

A 21-year-old man had his hand severed by a samurai sword in a confrontation between 40 men in the Fitzroy Gardens a fortnight ago -- the second brawl involving swords in 24 hours.

Huy Huynh, 19, was chased from the Salt nightclub and hacked to death nearby in July 2002 by a mob using samurai swords and machetes.

The new laws will make it illegal to sell swords to anyone who does not have a permit.

Sword sellers will have to keep a register of buyers' details and make it available for police to inspect.

Mr Haermeyer said groups such as highland dancers, historic re-enactment groups, bonafide collectors and people with family heirlooms could apply for an exemption from the licensing services branch of Victoria Police.

"Legitimate sword owners understand the importance of ensuring that their swords do not fall into the wrong hands," he said.

"The vast majority of the community would say, 'Look, there's no place for people just being able to go out there and buy these things and carry them around the street'."

Mr Haermeyer said the exact definition of a sword under the new regulations was still being considered.

He said machetes would remain a controlled weapon, requiring a person to have a legitimate reason for carrying them.

The Government is also looking at bans on some other weapons, such as crossbows, and greater restriction on the sale of prohibited and regulated weapons at weekend markets.

Mr Haermeyer warned that police would be actively hunting for knives and swords after being given new powers and 480 metal detectors late last year, allowing them to search people they reasonably suspected were carrying weapons.

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TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; machete; sword
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To: Martin Tell
What about point-ed sticks?
61 posted on 03/12/2004 12:46:09 PM PST by Gefreiter
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To: TonyRo76
Aye Matie, we pirates will never give up our swords! ARRR!


62 posted on 03/12/2004 12:51:03 PM PST by Feiny (Drawing on my fine command of language, I said nothing.)
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To: Gefreiter
What you need is more fresh fruit!
63 posted on 03/12/2004 12:52:21 PM PST by Martin Tell (I will not be terrified or Kerrified.)
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To: neverdem
I guess these were fully automatic assualt swords.
64 posted on 03/12/2004 12:52:46 PM PST by JOE43270 (JOE43270)
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To: jscd3
when I read that, I said to myself, "My GOD, what bizzaro world did I wake up in this morning?!"

Next it will be baseball bats, cricket bats, tire irons, butcher knives, then the Australians will pass a law saying everyone has to stay in their homes because the world is just too scary.

Give me a break!
65 posted on 03/12/2004 12:52:49 PM PST by bc2 (http://thinkforyourself.us)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
And no more Quickening for us Highlanders.........
66 posted on 03/12/2004 12:55:30 PM PST by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody got a peanut.....)
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To: neverdem
Australians are stoopid.
67 posted on 03/12/2004 12:56:49 PM PST by jjm2111
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To: neverdem
A link to flint-knapping lessons.
http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Falls/2474/flint_knapping.htm
Might come in handy someday!
68 posted on 03/12/2004 12:58:52 PM PST by DBrow
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To: sociotard
I've seen that axe before, but I can't quite place it. I like the spike on the backside.
69 posted on 03/12/2004 12:59:14 PM PST by steveegg (You don't clean up 8 years of messes in 4, only to turn it over to Pigpen - W'04)
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To: AnnaZ; HangFire
The British can't be too far behind.
Then, Feinstein will introduce the same bill in the Senate.
70 posted on 03/12/2004 12:59:35 PM PST by Feiny (Drawing on my fine command of language, I said nothing.)
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To: Servant of the 9
"everyone is gonna have to buy their food pre-cut by licensed butchers/chefs."

If you did that, you'd have to give the whole population pairs of little wooden sticks to eat with.
71 posted on 03/12/2004 1:00:52 PM PST by DBrow
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I thought most swords you can buy are dulled and not an effective weapon.
72 posted on 03/12/2004 1:01:33 PM PST by JimDingle (Give Dingle a Jingle)
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To: JOE43270
Fully automatic assault sword made by Ginsu and used in every Benny Hana's around the country....
73 posted on 03/12/2004 1:02:11 PM PST by Darksheare (Fortune for today: The penguins have taken over! THEY are our masters now!)
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To: JimDingle
http://www.starfireswords.com/

These are high quality steel that will hold a nice edge. An hour or two with a good stone will be time well spent.
74 posted on 03/12/2004 1:03:55 PM PST by DBrow
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To: feinswinesuksass
Demolition man, Something to watch now.
75 posted on 03/12/2004 1:04:04 PM PST by John Will
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To: neverdem
Pretty soon, it will be anything carried by hand.

In England, or at least parts of it, it's anything which could be used as a weapon. I guess that means they have to write with crayons, since either a sharpened pencil, or a ball point pen, makes a dandy weapon.

76 posted on 03/12/2004 1:05:05 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: El Gato
Also all people will have to use dummy scisors to cut, and I have no clue what cooks will have to use in replacement for knives.
77 posted on 03/12/2004 1:07:34 PM PST by JimDingle (Give Dingle a Jingle)
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To: El Gato
A look at your tagline got me to thinking of the robes writing their decisions with crayons. Seems appropriate considering some of their recent decisions.
78 posted on 03/12/2004 1:11:41 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
Wonder at what point does a sword becomes a knife?

And if I carry a pocket "sword", uh I mean pocket knife, am I carrying a concealed weapon?
79 posted on 03/12/2004 1:21:00 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: neverdem
Soon to be taught in the Australian Police Academies...

"...Tonight I shall be carrying on from where we got to last week when I was showing you how to defend yourselves against anyone who attacks you armed with a piece of fresh fruit..."

That is, after they have outlawed pointed sticks.

80 posted on 03/12/2004 1:25:30 PM PST by Ghengis
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