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New law to ban swords
The Herald Sun(Australia) ^ | 09mar04 | Peter Mickelburough

Posted on 03/12/2004 12:09:38 PM PST by neverdem

New law to ban swords Peter Mickelburough, state politics reporter 09mar04

SWORDS will be outlawed from July under new laws to curb the growing use of the weapons in street brawls.

Police Minister Andre Haermeyer said the ban would help police overcome a culture of young people arming themselves with swords. "For most people running around the street carrying swords there is absolutely no reason for them to be carrying those weapons," he said yesterday.

From July, anyone found possessing or selling a sword without a permit will face up to six months' jail and fines of up to $12,000.

Existing sword owners must surrender their weapons to police, sell them to a licensed dealer or apply to the Chief Commissioner for specific approval.

Collectors and people with legitimate cultural, religious or military reasons to own swords will be exempted from the ban, but must store them under lock and key and have a burglar alarm.

The sword ban follows a string of recent attacks and a regulatory impact statement undertaken by the State Government last year.

Last week, a 13-year-old boy was arrested and charged after allegedly charging police with a sword near Castlemaine, in central Victoria.

A 21-year-old man had his hand severed by a samurai sword in a confrontation between 40 men in the Fitzroy Gardens a fortnight ago -- the second brawl involving swords in 24 hours.

Huy Huynh, 19, was chased from the Salt nightclub and hacked to death nearby in July 2002 by a mob using samurai swords and machetes.

The new laws will make it illegal to sell swords to anyone who does not have a permit.

Sword sellers will have to keep a register of buyers' details and make it available for police to inspect.

Mr Haermeyer said groups such as highland dancers, historic re-enactment groups, bonafide collectors and people with family heirlooms could apply for an exemption from the licensing services branch of Victoria Police.

"Legitimate sword owners understand the importance of ensuring that their swords do not fall into the wrong hands," he said.

"The vast majority of the community would say, 'Look, there's no place for people just being able to go out there and buy these things and carry them around the street'."

Mr Haermeyer said the exact definition of a sword under the new regulations was still being considered.

He said machetes would remain a controlled weapon, requiring a person to have a legitimate reason for carrying them.

The Government is also looking at bans on some other weapons, such as crossbows, and greater restriction on the sale of prohibited and regulated weapons at weekend markets.

Mr Haermeyer warned that police would be actively hunting for knives and swords after being given new powers and 480 metal detectors late last year, allowing them to search people they reasonably suspected were carrying weapons.

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TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; machete; sword
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To: neverdem
Sword permits?
41 posted on 03/12/2004 12:33:14 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: *bang_list
Swoosh
43 posted on 03/12/2004 12:34:16 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

WHAT'S all this I hear about a law to ban FORDS?

I know you Chevy people have been talking about this for ages, but has it really come to this?

Can't we all just get along? If we have to ban anything, I say it should be Peugeots. Get those Frogmobiles off the streets before they surrender to a lamp post or a tree.

    Emily...it's 'swords.' They're trying to ban swords.

Oh. Never mind.


44 posted on 03/12/2004 12:34:56 PM PST by Nick Danger (Time is what keeps everything from happening at once)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
I saw a bumper sticker the other day in Virginia... "Buy a Sword, no waiting period"
45 posted on 03/12/2004 12:36:39 PM PST by CJ Wolf
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To: neverdem
Wait until someone puts an eye out with a fork.
46 posted on 03/12/2004 12:37:47 PM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: ZULU
The leftist social engineers are attempting to construct a world where it's impossible to either physically or emotionally hurt anyone else. They are insane, obviously.
47 posted on 03/12/2004 12:38:39 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: neverdem
SWORDS will be outlawed from July

Wait till they try and outlaw them from the other eleven months!
48 posted on 03/12/2004 12:39:29 PM PST by marktuoni (This space reserved for pithy comments...as yet I have none.)
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To: Restorer
If you think this is different from the US, you might want to try walking around downtown with your katana on your hip.

They may not have banned owning these implements in (most of) the US yet, but I guarantee you that carrying one around is frowned on.

This is very different.
Carrying firearms was banned in most states, but ownership was rarely banned. That left open the return of legal concealed carry in the future. Today concealed carry has been reintroduced in most states.
Once weapons have been outright banned and confiscated no one is going to ever get their rights or their weapons back.

So9

49 posted on 03/12/2004 12:41:58 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Goldwater Republican)
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To: jscd3
I thought the same thing.
50 posted on 03/12/2004 12:42:14 PM PST by Tribune7 (Vote Toomey April 27)
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To: Servant of the 9
Don't forget the boxcutters...
51 posted on 03/12/2004 12:42:15 PM PST by dixierat (Just a white boy lookin' for a place to do my thing....(Merle Haggard))
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To: neverdem
Yeah, well they'll never take my slingshot away. They'll have to pry it out of my cold, dead fingers.
52 posted on 03/12/2004 12:42:58 PM PST by King David (Kerry can't take a punch...)
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To: CJ Wolf
Next thing you know Australians will need a permit for kitchen knives.
53 posted on 03/12/2004 12:43:00 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Mr. Mojo
The leftist social engineers are attempting to construct a world where it's impossible to either physically or emotionally hurt anyone else. They are insane, obviously.

You can't say things like that. You hurt their feelings. Go sit in the corner for 5 minutes.

55 posted on 03/12/2004 12:43:13 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: kaktuskid
And sharp sticks. Yes, sharp sticks can only be carried with a permit.
56 posted on 03/12/2004 12:43:31 PM PST by Tribune7 (Vote Toomey April 27)
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To: neverdem
I don't think this is real. If it is, however, think of the loopholes!

And if the image link doesn't work later, go to http://66.0.193.113/isroot/www11650/ProductImages/mrl1026.jpg

Oh yeah! how about my favorite curved bilateral sword!

57 posted on 03/12/2004 12:44:52 PM PST by sociotard (I am the one true Sociotard)
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To: Servant of the 9
Kitchen knives are next, and everyone is gonna have to buy their food pre-cut by licensed butchers/chefs.

Drop the butchers (no meat) and you've got it.

58 posted on 03/12/2004 12:44:53 PM PST by steveegg (You don't clean up 8 years of messes in 4, only to turn it over to Pigpen - W'04)
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To: neverdem
Where's the National Sword Association on all of this?
59 posted on 03/12/2004 12:45:37 PM PST by Gefreiter
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To: Servant of the 9
Well, I've said that they can come and get my gun and my sword, they get the gun right after I run out of ammo and have to let them meet said sword...

But hopefully it won't come to that here in the states.
60 posted on 03/12/2004 12:45:55 PM PST by Darksheare (Fortune for today: The penguins have taken over! THEY are our masters now!)
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