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1 posted on 03/11/2004 6:09:42 AM PST by twas
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The psychologist Oliver James said that too much reliance had been put on IQ measures as objective assessments of brainpower. “The IQ test is heavily culturally conditioned,” he said.

Wealthy countries developed the IQ test - so intelligence traits valued in those countries will of COURSE be weighted more heavily. But since the bias in the test is in line with the national trait being measured, it is therefore an accurate predictor of national wealth.

DUH....

2 posted on 03/11/2004 6:12:13 AM PST by dirtboy (Howard, we hardly knew ye. Not that we're complaining, mind you...)
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here comes the Bell Curve bump
4 posted on 03/11/2004 6:17:53 AM PST by prognostigaator
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This is very interesting. Great post.

It's also very politically incorrect -- I'm surprised an article like this can be published without some kind of charges of "hate speech."
6 posted on 03/11/2004 6:21:40 AM PST by 68skylark
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As with all socialist/fascist/commie/evil dum policies, the less educated, free and empowered the population, the more POWER theyhave. The evil dums have tried for 40 years to convince blacks that they are so downtrodden and stupid (Repubs fault don't ya know) that only some fascist Elitist Dum can take care of them. Luckily most Blacks didn't fall for it.

The teachers UNIONS hate the idea of testing. They might have to educate children instead of using them as political pawns.

8 posted on 03/11/2004 6:25:11 AM PST by marty60
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These researchers are suffering from a common ailment of statisticians, causality inversion.

It doesn't take a great deal of brains to bring wealth to a nation. The Wealth of Nations comes about from embracing free trade and vigorous capitalism. I even believe there's a book about that somewhere.

Wealth is created by a nation that makes a commitment to objective truth and private ownership while trusting its inhabitants to manage their own affairs. This will naturally be followed by increased education of the masses and a higher IQ.

10 posted on 03/11/2004 6:32:34 AM PST by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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I thought that an IQ of 70-75 was considered mentally retarded. Is this correct?
11 posted on 03/11/2004 6:33:54 AM PST by blam
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REAL political incorrectness Bump.
12 posted on 03/11/2004 6:36:40 AM PST by DoctorMichael (What the %$#&!)
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"The wealth of nations is mapped by their IQ"

All the kids of the world know this!
They know that Santa Clause brings expensive gifts to all the rich kids and crappy gifts to all the poor kids.

Conclusion: The rich kids are smart enough to ask for the expensive stuff!
15 posted on 03/11/2004 6:44:20 AM PST by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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(The authors) are confusing IQ with education. If a country has a good education system, their economy will benefit.

True. People with no education in, say, geometry or math will NOT do as well on typical non-verbal IQ tests, regardless of their innate intelligence.

16 posted on 03/11/2004 6:54:52 AM PST by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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international aid agencies should do more to improve the nutrition of pregnant women and infants — the most important environmental determinant of intelligence — to help to lift developing nations out of poverty.

Oh sure, good idea.

Then we can outsource American jobs to them.

21 posted on 03/11/2004 7:18:39 AM PST by Age of Reason
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This guy will be labled as a racist before the day is over.
23 posted on 03/11/2004 7:22:57 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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If this is the case, our GDP will be going down the tubes since this nation is so dumbed-down now.
24 posted on 03/11/2004 7:23:19 AM PST by Indie (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.")
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I would like to see a comparison of Rep. vs. Dem. I.Q.

(I already know the answer, just want to know what the spread is. :) )
25 posted on 03/11/2004 7:25:41 AM PST by underbyte (Arrogance will drop your IQ 50 points)
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“In this country it tests your middle-classness and how well you know how to please the testers. The IQ of a working-class child adopted by a middle-class family will rise by about 12 points. (The authors) are confusing IQ with education. If a country has a good education system, their economy will benefit. It is rich countries that are likely to have those systems.”

Of course when assessing the quality of an "education system," a lot depends on the students themselves. So even if you were to transport the facilities and teachers from the best schools in the US or Singapore to some poor community, it would not necessarily amount to a great "education system." If you transported the staff and facilities from the best school France to Haiti, I am not convinced that it would amount to a great education system.

You could send some of the most mediocre teachers in America to Singapore, and the students would keep learning a lot, because their parents would insist on it.

Hong Kong has virtually nothing in the way of natural resouces (oil, other minerals, arable land). Yet is is pretty wealthy. You could say that drug smuggling (opium to China) gave it a good start, but the same could be said about Haiti, and they have nothing to show for it.

Hong Kong has a good port, but Haiti must have at keast one good port, perhaps somewhere near its capital.

The difference lie largely in the economic system, the laws, the incentives, the work ethic, and the education system that has developed over time. Education by itslef is not necessarily all that helpful for an economy. In more-or-less socialist Uruguay, there is great education, but not enough jobs for all the college educated young adults there. Education is important, but so is the overall culture and economic system.

27 posted on 03/11/2004 7:52:53 AM PST by Montfort
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EVOLUTION in action.
28 posted on 03/11/2004 7:55:27 AM PST by ZULU (God Bless Senator Joe McCarthy!!!)
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Pseudoscientific BS article...moving along now
29 posted on 03/11/2004 7:58:01 AM PST by cyborg (In die begin het God die hemel en die aarde geskape.)
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WV - SOCIOLOGY - ECONOMICS
30 posted on 03/11/2004 8:16:19 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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I am very chary of these sorts of " analyses"

" Yacht is to a boat as mansion is to a ____________"

If you happen to be from Papua New Guinea you may well not know what a yacht or a mansion is. I can assure you that if they plopped you in the jungle among papuans you would look relatively retarded to them. After all you don't know what a weri or a kasu is or the soil drainage requirements for yams are..
31 posted on 03/11/2004 8:28:42 AM PST by tcuoohjohn (Follow The Money)
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Well! That simply verifies the obvious.
Just look at the IQ if the sandmaggot... errr... Arab League: 220!

all 58 of them put together, of course.

37 posted on 03/11/2004 2:31:44 PM PST by Publius6961 (50.3% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks (subject to a final count).)
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