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Kerry no hero in ex-crewman's eyes
Boston Globe ^ | 3/11/04 | Michael Kranish

Posted on 03/11/2004 2:56:04 AM PST by kattracks

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:11:48 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Steven Michael Gardner served side by side with John Forbes Kerry in Vietnam, was wounded under Kerry's command, and was manning twin .50-caliber machine guns on a night that has forever haunted Kerry -- the night his crew killed a young boy in a sampan.


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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; jameswasser; jimwasser; kerry; militaryrecord; stephengardner
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To: KQQL
It did.
21 posted on 03/11/2004 5:10:29 AM PST by sport
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To: Tom D.
I believe Garner.
22 posted on 03/11/2004 5:11:35 AM PST by sport
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To: Brian Allen
Yep!

A democrat cannot stand to have the tuth told about them.
23 posted on 03/11/2004 5:15:19 AM PST by sport
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To: kattracks
"He was a great employee, but just in this economic situation we didn't have the volume in that territory to warrant a manager in that territory," Girton said. He said Gardner did not accept an offer to work as an independent contractor.

He is lying and he knows it. The economic situation warranted a manager in that territory until he old the truth about kerry. My money says that he was never offered a chance to work as an independent contractor.

I believe that girton is a democrat and got a call from either the kerry campaign or mcauffle to fire the man.
24 posted on 03/11/2004 5:24:06 AM PST by sport
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To: sport
Here's what I want to know. Gardner gets hit, there's blood all over the gun tub, nobody knows how bad he'd been hit, they back out of the canal and split. They patch Gardner up and he's ok, this time.

Did Gardner get a Purple Heart for his wounds?? Did Kerry put him in for one? How many other guys on Kerry's boats were decorated? In 4 months, was Kerry the only other guy on the boats that was hit with shrapnel and wounded? How many other crew members were wounded and decorated on Kerry's boats?

The way I remember it back then, if you got dinged and wanted a ribbon, you filled out a form and put yourself in for your prize. Most guys didn't. If you really got shot up, the CO or Sarge might put you in for a Heart, but you could do it yourself if you wanted to. Who put Kerry in for his Hearts? Did he write himself up????

Inquiring old minds sure want to know!
25 posted on 03/11/2004 5:30:02 AM PST by wouldilie
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To: kattracks
Good for you...glad to hear his boat crew speaking out....

Now about that Silver Star....and the officer who had to have written it up and approved it

Kerry couldnt have gotten as far as he did with his lie filled career without a little help from his friends...

Scumbags....all.....

I feel sorry for any sailor who had the misfortune of having to serve under this Papa Oscar Sierra

Good men tarred with the same brush just because of their 'bad luck' of having John Forbes Kerry for a skipper....
26 posted on 03/11/2004 5:35:23 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: wouldilie
My guess would be that the person who put on kerry's pants each morning is who wrote all his citations.

I gurantee you that if I was a bigwig in President Bush's re-election campaign, I would already be heading to where Garner lives.

He would make a great kerry deliar.
27 posted on 03/11/2004 5:37:04 AM PST by sport
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To: kattracks
My question is, why are the 9 others so enthusiastic about Kerry? Or are they?
28 posted on 03/11/2004 5:39:48 AM PST by Gritty ("Kerry says challenging his record is challenging his patriotism. He's right. His record does!)
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To: kattracks
. . .has his appearance on Larry King been announced yet; his interview with Katie? Surely an appearance on 'Night Line' and C-span is being arranged.
29 posted on 03/11/2004 5:44:04 AM PST by cricket
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To: KQQL
Bump
30 posted on 03/11/2004 5:45:55 AM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: All
Could someone post a picture of Mr. Gardner or if the photo in post therr is a picture of him, could someone enlarge it for me?

Thanks!
31 posted on 03/11/2004 5:58:41 AM PST by sport
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To: Carolinamom
Follow the money. Just looked up the company. I haven't had much time to do a thorough search, and some folks here are much more competent about finding political affiliations than I am, but here's a link to a story on their website:

http://www.millinfo.com/pr/fairisaac20031119.htm
32 posted on 03/11/2004 6:05:29 AM PST by petitfour
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To: petitfour
The link I posted above shows a business affiliation made by Millenium Information Services at the end of 2003 to a company called Fair Isaac. Here is a page from the Fair Isaac website with their associations. Lots of Beijing and Korea and RAT familiar liasons here:

http://www.fairisaac.com/Fairisaac/Partners/Directory/International+Distributors.htm
33 posted on 03/11/2004 6:11:58 AM PST by petitfour
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To: Dog; Miss Marple
ping
34 posted on 03/11/2004 6:15:16 AM PST by kayak (Medals do not make a man. Morals do.)
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To: kattracks
BUMP!
35 posted on 03/11/2004 6:16:14 AM PST by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: petitfour
Sheesh. Did I step in it? Fair Isaac is THE credit reporting formula calculator.
36 posted on 03/11/2004 6:22:26 AM PST by petitfour
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To: All
Here is the thread with the story from Time that is referenced in this article.

The Tenth Brother [former Kerry mate from Nam steps forward: "Kerry was chickens---"]

37 posted on 03/11/2004 6:22:49 AM PST by kayak (Medals do not make a man. Morals do.)
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To: SAMWolf
More info on tenth brother.
38 posted on 03/11/2004 6:26:02 AM PST by Samwise (I am going to need to be sedated before this election is over.)
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To: Carolinamom; sport; Miss Marple; Dog
The Rock Hill Herald is now running this story after interviewing Mr. Gardner:

Clover man paints different portrait of Kerry in Time interview

The quality is really lousy but they also have a picture.

39 posted on 03/11/2004 6:37:20 AM PST by kayak (Medals do not make a man. Morals do.)
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To: sport
Open Secrets shows John Pietrzak, president of Millennium Information Services, gave $500 to Carol Moseley-Braun in 1997,with earlier amounts to Tom Harkin and Dan Rostenkowski. No money to Republicans. He is obviously a liberal democrat.
40 posted on 03/11/2004 6:52:02 AM PST by superdad
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