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HILLARY: BEWARE OF VOTING MACHINES MADE OF STEAL
New York Post ^ | 3/11/04 | Vincent Morris

Posted on 03/10/2004 11:53:58 PM PST by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:20:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

March 11, 2004 -- WASHINGTON - Sen. Hillary Clinton said yesterday voters in New York and elsewhere may not be able to trust future election results, charging the company that makes high-tech voting machines may skew results to help Republicans win.


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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electronicvoting; hillary
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To: ArmstedFragg
I agree with your points.

I don't actually see a problem with using the electronic system to just print out the ballot that then goes into a box and is then counted later.

I do have a problem with giving voters a "receipt" to take out of the polling center with them. Thugs/employers could demand that the voter show them their receipt. "Knock and drag" drivers could demand to see the ballot (in exchange for payment).

What precautions would there be for voters to prevent forged "receipts" in the case of a recall?

Meanwhile, what can we do to get every voter to show picture ID (like is used to buy alcohol, drive a car, or write a check)?

21 posted on 03/11/2004 12:50:31 AM PST by weegee ('...Kerry is like that or so a crack sausage.')
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To: beaversmom
Yup.

From Goebbels speech at the Nuremberg Rally of 1934:

He is blaming others of this blame reversal ...
22 posted on 03/11/2004 12:54:35 AM PST by ThePythonicCow (Meow !!!!)
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To: ThePythonicCow
I have watched several news discussions on FOX and CNN. DemoC-Rats dominate the Talk. NO other person can complete a sentence. These Democ-Rats EVEN DO IT TO O'Reliey So, Republicans sit quietly and lose the debate, instead of interrupting like the DemoC-rats. The DemoC-rats will not let the opposition talk unless they interrupt every few seconds. Study Psych or Social Psych. Note that By interrupting the other person, any person watching or listening gets the impression that the OPPOSITION person doesn't know what they are talking about or communicate very well.
23 posted on 03/11/2004 1:55:46 AM PST by Wisard (How come Texas has more Mexicans than Mexico?)
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To: kattracks
Communists just won't be happy until they completely discredited our system of free elections.

Next thing you know, she'll be inviting the UN as "observers".

24 posted on 03/11/2004 2:31:22 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: kattracks
The fact that she is saying this is an indication that the Dems are planning on this very thing. This is the begining of the smoke and mirrors.
25 posted on 03/11/2004 2:45:05 AM PST by Clean_Sweep
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To: Wisard
There was an attractive Black Republican woman on Fox yesterday morning who had the audacity to not allow the 'rat plantation master to tell her how to think. She correctly pointed out that the 'rats use the Nazi propaganda methods perfected by Goebbels. The 'rat talking head (also black)attempted to scold her for using the dreaded "N" word (Nazi). She quickly pointed out the Move-On ads showing Bush morphing into Hitler. She is very combative;I like her style. On a unrelated note, why are all the good-looking female commentators Republican?

26 posted on 03/11/2004 2:57:21 AM PST by macrahanish #1
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To: kattracks
Forget the future voting systems. That is just a smokescreen for the RATs to cast aspersions on the current voting system. They've already started in on Florida and now Her Heinous is yakking about New York. Meanwhile out in Kalifornia, there are problems with some new machines, and some moron state senator is pushing for 14 year-olds to vote. When you add it all up, you've got a concerted effort to undermine confidence in voting at large, making it far easier for Boobus America to accept nationwide court challenges a la Florida 2000.
27 posted on 03/11/2004 3:01:58 AM PST by Dahoser (They RATS are waging war on many fronts. That's the big picture.)
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To: Caipirabob
hitlery will do that if it, I mean she, gets elected pres...I am getting nauseated thinking about that (gag)

coincheck
28 posted on 03/11/2004 3:03:22 AM PST by coincheck (support our troops, they are the best bar none (sua sponte))
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To: kattracks

BTW I voted with a touch screen last year.

Touch screen voting without paper is idiotic. Printouts are not made because it would cost too much and no county would have bought the touch screens. The way to go has always been optically scanned voter cards. Cheaper and more tamper proof. Ideally, network the scanner to election headquarters with a simple telephone modem so tallies are made in real time. Various states and counties went with these LCD touch screens because they seem more hi tech. As lame as handing out laptops to 5th graders meaning progress.

29 posted on 03/11/2004 3:05:54 AM PST by dennisw (“The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.”)
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To: kattracks

30 posted on 03/11/2004 3:09:34 AM PST by maggief
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To: kattracks
Cross-link:

-The Vote Fraud Archives--

31 posted on 03/11/2004 3:33:32 AM PST by backhoe (--30--)
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To: Patriot_from_CA
Contrary to all the concern about computerized voting, it will not be difficult to generate a comprehensive audit trail of an entire election using computers.

Yes, but this is now. The Diebold machines were used in California recently with results that could be expected in any democrat run election. More votes were recorded than there were registered voters. Without paper there is no audit trail and no backup. We have a ways to go before computerized voting can work. The technical problems are trivial. The procedural problems are vast.

32 posted on 03/11/2004 3:41:03 AM PST by js1138
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To: kattracks
She's just laying the groundwork for challenging the election results in November.
33 posted on 03/11/2004 3:42:16 AM PST by Junior (No animals were harmed in the making of this post)
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To: kattracks
Before Florida there was nothing wrong with manual voting devices. If Bush or Gore won Florida by more than a few thousand votes nothing would have changed.
34 posted on 03/11/2004 3:44:25 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Clean_Sweep
"The fact that she is saying this is an indication that the Dems are planning on this very thing. This is the begining of the smoke and mirrors."


I tend to agree with you. So knowing the lying liberals need to manufacture votes to win elections, seems appropriate that we not wait until election day to DO something.

We can't say we have not been warned, the hight priestess of evil sounded the warning. Wonder what she plans to do about it?
35 posted on 03/11/2004 3:54:57 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: kattracks
This may explain the "bet the farm" mentality of this election. Could it be that the REAL numbers are soooo bad that they have to sow the seeds of doubt.

I do not for a SECOND believe they do not know who to fix elections.

I do believe poll watchers are critical AND a mens of ANALOG recording of all data transmission from polling places. Thus is someone taps into the line, it will make a copy of the alteration process.
36 posted on 03/11/2004 5:24:47 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: kattracks
vicious lying bitch knows about vote fraud...
37 posted on 03/11/2004 5:27:33 AM PST by The Wizard
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To: kattracks
Besides the fact that the Dems have been committing voter fraud in every major city for over a century, we have been using high tech voting machines for years in many parts of the country.
38 posted on 03/11/2004 5:37:41 AM PST by kabar
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To: kattracks
This ties in with Kerry's comments about Republicans being lying crooks. It must be the new Demonrat talking points. And it's also giving liberal voters once again, a means to protest the election outcome in November if it isn't to their liking.
39 posted on 03/11/2004 6:33:09 AM PST by mass55th
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To: kattracks
I would like to know how these machines work - if there is indeed a Florida redux - how are we going to know the actual votes? We all know they will do whatever they need to do to try to steal ANOTHER election.
40 posted on 03/11/2004 6:51:53 AM PST by baseballmom
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