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Ann Coulter: W.W.J.K.: WHO WOULD JESUS KILL?
Coulter via Yahoo ^ | 3-10-04 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 03/10/2004 4:10:11 PM PST by Pharmboy

William Safire, The New York Times' in-house "conservative" -- who endorsed Bill Clinton (news - web sites) in 1992, like so many conservatives -- was sure Mel Gibson's movie "The Passion of the Christ" would incite anti-Semitic violence. Thus far, the pogroms have failed to materialize.

With all the subtlety of a Mack truck, Safire called Gibson's movie a version of "the medieval 'passion play,' preserved in pre-Hitler Germany at Oberammergau, a source of the hatred of all Jews as 'Christ killers.'" (Certainly every Aryan Nation skinhead murderer I've ever met was also a devoted theater buff and "passion play" aficionado.)

The "passion play" has been put on in Germany since at least 1633. I guess 1633 would be "pre-Hitler." In addition, Moses walked the Earth "pre-Hitler." The wheel was invented "pre-Hitler." People ate soup "pre-Hitler." Referring to the passion play as "pre-Hitler" is a slightly fancier version of every adolescent's favorite argument: You're like Hitler!

Despite repeated suggestions from liberals -- including the in-house "conservative" and Clinton-supporter at the Times -- Hitler is not what happens when you gin up Christians. Like Timothy McVeigh (news - web sites), the Columbine killers and the editorial board of The New York Times, Hitler detested Christians.

Indeed, Hitler denounced Christianity as an "invention of the Jew" and vowed that the "organized lie (of Christianity) must be smashed" so that the state would "remain the absolute master." Interestingly, this was the approach of all the great mass murderers of the last century -- all of whom were atheists: Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot.

In the United States, more than 30 million babies have been killed by abortion since Roe v. Wade (news - web sites), vs. seven abortion providers killed. Yeah -- keep your eye on those Christians!

But according to liberals, it's Christianity that causes murder. (And don't get them started on Zionism.) Like their Muslim friends still harping about the Crusades, liberals won't "move on" from the Spanish Inquisition. In the entire 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition, about 30,000 people were killed. That's an average of less than 100 a year. Stalin knocked off that many kulaks before breakfast.

But Safire argues that viewers of "The Passion" will see the Jewish mob and think: "Who was responsible for this cruel humiliation? What villain deserves to be punished?"

Let's see: It was a Roman who ordered Christ's execution, and Romans who did all the flaying, taunting and crucifying. Perhaps Safire is indulging in his own negative stereotyping about Jews by assuming they simply viewed Romans as "the help."

But again I ask: Does anyone at the Times have the vaguest notion what Christianity is? (Besides people who go around putting up nativity scenes that have to be taken down by court order?) The religion that toppled the Roman Empire -- anyone?

Jesus' suffering and death is not a Hatfields-and-McCoys story demanding retaliation. The gist of the religion that transformed the world is: God's only son came to Earth to take the punishment we deserved.

If the Jews had somehow managed to block Jesus' crucifixion and He had died in old age of natural causes, there would be no salvation through Christ and no Christianity. Whatever possible responses there may be to that story, this is not one of them: Damn those Jews for being a part of God's plan to save my eternal soul!

Gibson didn't insert Jews into the story for some Machiavellian, racist reason. Christ was a Jew crucified by Romans at the request of other Jews in Jerusalem. I suppose if Gibson had moved the story to suburban Cleveland and portrayed Republican logging executives crucifying Christ, the left would calm down. But it simply didn't happen that way.

Of course, the original text is no excuse in Hollywood. The villains of Tom Clancy's book "The Sum of All Fears" were recently transformed from Muslim terrorists to neo-Nazis for the movie version. You wouldn't want to upset the little darlings. They might do something rash like slaughter 3,000 innocent American civilians in a single day. The only religion that can be constantly defamed and insulted is the one liberals pretend to be terrified of.


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To: HighWheeler
Using the andy rooney voice on a thread about The Passion of THE Christ is just tooooooooo funny...considering his idiotic rants of late. LOL
101 posted on 03/10/2004 10:36:52 PM PST by kimmie7 (Headed to Boston next week...I think I'll put my "W" button back on my purse. < grin > Pray 4 Jacob!)
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To: sweetliberty
Well spoken, my FRiend.
102 posted on 03/10/2004 10:37:50 PM PST by kimmie7 (Headed to Boston next week...I think I'll put my "W" button back on my purse. < grin > Pray 4 Jacob!)
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To: Objective Reality
"Yes - in itself, as much a "leap of faith" as ever demanded by any religion in the history of humankind."

Well... not quite. Were quantum physics not true, we wouldn't have computers with which to talk about this. We also wouldn't have barcode scanners at supermarkets, among many other things.
103 posted on 03/10/2004 10:40:08 PM PST by Terpfen (Re-elect Bush; kill terrorists now, fix Medicare later.)
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To: Pharmboy
The only religion off-limits to criticism from liberals, as Ann points out, is the Religion Of Peace. TM We don't hear a lot of ink and commentary exactly spilled over W.W.M.K?(Who Would Mohammed Kill?)
104 posted on 03/10/2004 10:42:12 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Pharmboy
bump
105 posted on 03/10/2004 10:43:45 PM PST by kimmie7 (Headed to Boston next week...I think I'll put my "W" button back on my purse. < grin > Pray 4 Jacob!)
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To: Pharmboy
Although it always sounds trite, this piece was some of Ann's best work.
106 posted on 03/10/2004 10:44:20 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Terpfen
You've just stumbled upon the modern description of reality as defined by quantum physics.

I believe the "every decision made or not made" theory is just one among many espoused by physicists.

107 posted on 03/10/2004 10:47:56 PM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: Pharmboy
She not only slots her target, she drops a coin in afterwards.
108 posted on 03/10/2004 10:55:31 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: NutCrackerBoy
"I believe the 'every decision made or not made' theory is just one among many espoused by physicists."

Indeed, but at the very least, the consensus is that the extremely weird theory of quantum physics is true.
109 posted on 03/10/2004 11:03:44 PM PST by Terpfen (Re-elect Bush; kill terrorists now, fix Medicare later.)
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To: Pharmboy
Bump for later reading.
110 posted on 03/10/2004 11:06:06 PM PST by Terpfen (Re-elect Bush; kill terrorists now, fix Medicare later.)
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If the Jews had somehow managed to block Jesus' crucifixion and He had died in old age of natural causes, there would be no salvation through Christ and no Christianity. Whatever possible responses there may be to that story, this is not one of them: Da** those Jews for being a part of God's plan to save my eternal soul!

This has been stirring in me in a slightly different emphasis. People are missing the point when they try to soft-peddle the Jews' role in Christ's death. In fact, Jesus Himself said theirs was the greater sin, for handing Him over. HOWEVER, Jesus forgave them and by His teaching prior to the Cross, and at the Cross, He taught us to do the same. The Romans were culpable as, indeed, they were "the help," since the Jews could no longer execute people for offenses against the state, being in Roman subjection. But if neither the Jews nor the Romans had acted, Jesus would not have suffered the fate the Father prepared for Him from before the foundation of the world and no one would be saved.

We can thank the Jews and the Romans for what they did in our stead, for in handing over the Son of God to crucifixion and death, they enabled the resurrection, and redemption for anyone who hungers for it.

111 posted on 03/10/2004 11:12:58 PM PST by GretchenEE (Jesus is "the way, the truth and the life. No man comes to the Father but by" Him.)
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To: HighWheeler
"andy rooney voice"

You're really good. It sounded just like him. LOL

No, it really did. You even looked like him, hunched over the desk with his hands folded in front of him.

112 posted on 03/10/2004 11:32:15 PM PST by Badray (Make sure that the socialist in the White House has to fight a conservative Congress.)
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To: Pharmboy
She's a treasure!
113 posted on 03/10/2004 11:34:40 PM PST by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: Pharmboy
"Christianity was tried as a religion, and found wanting."

"On the contrary, my good friend. Christianity was found to be too difficult as a religion, and left untried."

The scope of the Christian religion calls upon us to emulate Christ, and when the time for sacrifice comes, we must strive to dedicate ourselves to the degree that Christ had, to bear an unjust accusation, or even accept the ultimate punishment growing out of that unjust accusation, and with our dying breath, forgive our enemy. Of course, long before the time for sacrifice, we are expected to behave in a just manner ourselves, and to expunge evil where we find it.

The great difficulty, for most of mankind, is precisely defining evil, and the just manner of expunging it.
114 posted on 03/11/2004 3:28:28 AM PST by alloysteel
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To: GretchenEE
,*** Jesus forgave them and by His teaching prior to the Cross, and at the Cross, He taught us to do the same.***

I wish others would realize this is true!
115 posted on 03/11/2004 4:20:08 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Objective Reality
It's been my observation that God doesn't work that way

But how do you know that God doesn't run His other universes in different ways? Maybe He's a loving, father-like God in our universe, a wrathful, vengeful God in another, and a neglectful, underachiever God in yet another. In other words, how can you presume to place limitations on God?

116 posted on 03/11/2004 4:40:55 AM PST by giotto
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To: BibChr
Wow! She should be required reading in the government schools.
117 posted on 03/11/2004 5:14:53 AM PST by Dataman
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To: Pharmboy
As usual, she is to the point (and thrusts it through the slime.)
118 posted on 03/11/2004 6:13:44 AM PST by Maigrey (D°°° those Jews for being a part of God's plan to save my eternal soul! - Ann Colture)
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To: Terpfen; Objective Reality
"Otherwise, we live in an infinite number of parallel, possible and impossible universes, and every decision made or not made results in a tangential fracture of the universe. Did you go to work today? If so, there's a parallel universe in which you didn't. Have soup for dinner? There's a parallel universe in which you had a chicken sandwich. And one in which you had a steak. There's also an infinite number in which you died today, and an infinite number in which you never existed. And so on."
You've just stumbled upon the modern description of reality as defined by quantum physics.
You guys ever read The Mind and the Brain?

Book's a fascinating discussion of the efficacy of will--and an assault, based on quantum physics, on the idea that free will does not exist.


119 posted on 03/11/2004 6:25:59 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Belief in your own objectivity is the essence of subjectivity.)
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To: Dataman
Yet objectively, you know that Ann Coulter would NEVER be permitted to become required reading in public schools. In fact, there would be quite a number of these public schools where her writings would not even be allowed on the library shelves, and if a student should be so rash as to quote Ann Coulter in a class discussion, the instructor would surely hold that student up for ridicule before the class. So much for the free interplay of ideas.
120 posted on 03/11/2004 7:01:24 AM PST by alloysteel
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