[ConservativeStLouisGuy]

Rush NAILED the whole Martha Stewart thing in yesterday's show....as always, right-on insights by the Maha Rushie...

FReegards,

- ConservativeStLouisGuy

[q_an_a]

For a change Rush is short and sweet then moves on. He might cover 30 topics in ashow instad of 6 if he was as focused as he was ont hsi sotry. He is RIGHTm about the jurors and Martha should sue her stupid lawyer for never mentioning in the closing arguement that Martha can't be an insider.

[King Black Robe]

I love Rush and everything but if the above is any example, he nailed NOTHING!

CALLER: Die hard Republican, I actually have the Bush-Cheney '04 sticker on the back of my car, not like that woman from Friday. But the defense of Martha Stewart, both my wife and my father-in-law are stockbrokers and Martha Stewart was a stockbroker, has a series 7 license and the cardinal rule is you don't trade on inside information, and Martha violated that, and on top of that, Martha was a board member of the New York Stock Exchange. So she had a double responsibility to ethics in this and she broke those rules, and, you know, I've read a lot of defense of Martha in the conservative press and the Washington Times, et cetera, and I just flat out disagree with it. She got caught, she knew she was wrong.

RUSH: Wait a second, there's no conservative-liberal to this. And, by the way, I'm getting very suspicious here of all you people who call here and say I'm a registered Republican, I have a Bush-Cheney sticker on my car, just talk to us and we'll know whether you do or not. But I mean you people call here, I got a Bush-Cheney thing on my car, Bush sucks, Bush and Cheney are cheating everybody with Halliburton. Well, then why you got the thing on your car? You're not fooling us. Or me, anyway, with this talk of "I have a Bush-Cheney sticker on my car" and then launch into some stuff about the conservative media. That's just seminar caller get-up and I don't fall for it. Substance of your comment I will make in just a second. All right, here's the final Martha Stewart analysis. Given what she was charged with, and given what she got - she got what she got. That's what H.R. just told me, so there you have it.

The caller made excellent points and Rush didn't respond to it at all. He just inserted a red herring argument and piled hyperbole on top of it. Might make interesting radio talk, but it is far from nailing the debate.

[alnick]

Martha Stewart wasn't charged with or convicted of perjury.

Bill Clinton was not on trial in Martha Stewart's case.

[WayneM]

I was listening to this exchange yesterday, and what I heard was Rush playing the class-envy card (used about as often as Jesse Jackson's race card).

The caller was absolutely correct. A stockbroker knows that insider trading is a violation of rule number one. And if she didn't know it was wrong, why did she lie to cover it up?

Unfortunately, the caller made the fatal decision to attempt to establish his conservative credentials (probably knowing this would be the first line of attack when Rush decided to slam him). A few seconds later, when Rush heard that the caller was going to actually disagree with him, it was all over. Forget the fact that the caller was right. Cut him off and go on the offensive.

Rush is generally right on the issues, but when he is wrong or when someone disagrees with him, he attacks. I, for one, get tired of his boorish behavior. That is why I have pretty much quit listening to him.

[Peter Libra]

Mr Limbaugh will win even more friends with this one. Even those who love to see the mighty, 'er high and mighty, take a tumble. I hope they take Rush's points carefully- these points will stand scrutiny.I posted previously on FR as a MINORITY in a poorly put, but similiar vein, like the El-Rushbo.

I said liberal spouse and I finally agreed on something, re skewed justice. I thought to put the money where the mouth is. Yep, in Canada it is SEARS that carries Martha products- I footed the bill and we PURCHASED products- ahem, modestly though. 25% off. Hey, this is good stuff, these items.

Free Martha.

[zip]

ping

[biblewonk]

Rush impresses me less and less. OK he's right that she got screwed and it is a case of class envy. Beyond that he'd just yacking. He doesn't know what she was thinking and he's arrogant for suggesting that he does.

"~The persuit of money is the source of all good~" Rush.

[evad]

One thing I will disagree with regarding Rush's analysis on Martha.

He said that she lied and that was her downfall. He also commented that she should have left the lying to the professionals, alluding to the Clintons who would instinctively know to say something like "I don't remember".

The part I disagree with is that there is conclusive proof that she lied at all. Other than that I would agree that he "nailed it" right on.

This whole episode again strenghtens my belief that the last place an innocent person want to find themselves is at the trial stage of our justice system.

[claudiustg]

So now we're going to hear, "Usually I agree with Rush, but Martha should be sewed up in a bag and beaten with two by fours..."

[Endeavor]

"And who destroyed her company? She didn't. She built it up from nothing. She may not have been a likable person to people, I don't know. But she sure is paying the price for not being one. She got convicted because she's a b-i-itch in people's minds because she wasn't friendly, because she's not nice to people, and this is a chance to take it out."

Hogwash. Rush getting a little nervous?

[Pylot]

I think there is a general desire on the part of us little people to see some of the privledged class get what a little guy would get in the same circumstances.

Bernie Ebbers et al are next.

Is there a double standard compared to the Clintons. Yeah, get over it. They are not in office any more.

[Tanniker Smith]

From (sorry, can't tell you, it's a secret):

Stewart Found Guilty

Bigger insider traders can have
brokers in their control hand
business information to client having
better institutions to channel hundreds --
billions! -- into their clammy hands.
But it comes hard,
bitterly, if the controlling hand
benefitting is that celebrated homemaker,
Martha Stewart.

That about sums it up.

TS

[ZULU]

Stewart could have be honest with the Feds and she would have gotten a slap on the wrist - nothing more. But she didn't. She lied. She lied because she felt she was somebody special and didn't have to play games with a bunch of Federal gunshoes.

Again, they offered her a plea bargain - twice - which would have spared her the jail sentence. Again, she rebuffed them.

Stewart was never the target of this investigation, Waxman was. Stewart was helped by Waxman when he warned her through her broker. She dumped her stock on some poor schlubs who didn't know better and saved a bug $51,000.

A multi-millionaress or billionairess broke the law and refused to cooperate with a Federal investigation because she wanted to save $51,000 and protect one of her buddies who was probably ALSo a left-wing Democrat like her.

So who does Stewart have to blame? If you or I did what she did, we wouldn't have gotten the high powered legal advice she had and most assuredly we would be doing time.

Stewart is arrogant, crooked and an elitist liberal. She got what she deserved and I hope she gets sent up the river.

Rush is getting sensitive because he's transferring his problems to the situation involving this elitist liberal b#tch and the situations are simply not analogous.

[discostu]

Stupidity got Martha. She's on the freaking board she should have known better. After Enronitis the feds were looking for a symbol to string up, she should have known better. Across the board Martha should have freaking known better, but she was dumb and now she's gonna do jail time for stupidity. Trying to write this off as class envy is raw stupidity on Rush's part, it's the equivalent of the race card and misused almost as often.

[Oztrich Boy]

dumb druggie logic