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Lou Dobbs has a poll
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/ ^

Posted on 03/09/2004 3:35:28 PM PST by Andy_Stephenson

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:03:59 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]


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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electronicvoting

1 posted on 03/09/2004 3:35:28 PM PST by Andy_Stephenson
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To: Andy_Stephenson
I have no confidence in them at all. Without some kind of printout to back it up, these machines aren't worth a hoot.
2 posted on 03/09/2004 3:40:57 PM PST by ArcLight
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To: Andy_Stephenson
How much confidence do you have in electronic voting?
A lot 8% 263 votes
Some 12% 388 votes
A little 12% 380 votes
None 69% 2257 votes
Total: 3288 votes

I have none. And that includes votes cast electronically at state Republican party conventions.

3 posted on 03/09/2004 3:56:00 PM PST by Eala (Sacrificing tagline fame for... TRAD ANGLICAN RESOURCE PAGE: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican)
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To: Andy_Stephenson
I don't even want to know about Lou Dobbs pole.
4 posted on 03/09/2004 4:00:48 PM PST by sharktrager (Kerry is like that or so a crack sausage)
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To: Andy_Stephenson
Voted. None is winning.
5 posted on 03/09/2004 4:03:02 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: ArcLight
I have none either...But then I have researched these machines for 18 months. I helped bring out the information regarding them.
6 posted on 03/09/2004 4:18:24 PM PST by Andy_Stephenson
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To: Andy_Stephenson
If there are RATs involved, it will be crooked. Simple as that.
7 posted on 03/09/2004 4:19:35 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: sharktrager
LOL.
8 posted on 03/09/2004 4:19:44 PM PST by breakem
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To: ArcLight
I also choose none. But then this is kind or ironic by using a form of electronic "polling"


8^)
9 posted on 03/09/2004 4:23:11 PM PST by The SISU kid (I'm the swizzle stick in the cocktail of life)
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To: Andy_Stephenson
I worked the poll last week at the fire station (no pun) in Menifee CA in soutwest Riverside County. I believe our county was the first one in Cal and maybe the country to use electronic voting. Folks can vote at four malls in the county or at the registrars office for two weeks before the election, as well as the usual absentee ballots.

For the first 90 minutes I asked folks coming off the machines if they preferred the old way or the new. It was unanimous for the new.

Two negative comments out of 500+ all day. One thought the votes could be altered and the other forgot to close off her vote by hitting the last prompt. We corrected that right away.

Our system is Sequoia and we had no problems. The system is closed. There is no internet connection or phone lines of any kind. Cartridges are taken out of the back of the machine at the end of the day and delivered by two people to the registrars office. The registrar has a reader for the cartridges which tallys up the votes and issues print outs of the totals and records of the votes at each location.

I think this is a great system and subject to abuse only to the extent the paper ballot system was. Maybe less.

10 posted on 03/09/2004 4:27:00 PM PST by breakem
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To: Andy_Stephenson
By the way, Welcome to FR
11 posted on 03/09/2004 4:27:15 PM PST by The SISU kid (I'm the swizzle stick in the cocktail of life)
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To: Andy_Stephenson
How much confidence do you have in a Lou Dobbs Poll?
A lot 8% 263 votes
Some 12% 388 votes
A little 12% 380 votes
None 69% 2257 votes
Total: 3288 votes

There, that's better

12 posted on 03/09/2004 4:33:31 PM PST by mc5cents
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To: breakem
I can hack sequoia...The password is get this "Password". Did Mischelle Townsend tell you they were not connected to the internet? I bet it was. In fact the Sequoia machine DOES have a wireless connection...I have the seen the schematics for it.As for secure...Any MCSE (Of which there are 1000's) can write a VBA program and tamper with the ballots. When the election is finished the "hack" disappears. If you noticed on the back of the machine...there is a large yellow botton...that takes you into admin mode. All sorts of havoc can be wreaked there. But there just as safe as paper. Yeah...right!

13 posted on 03/09/2004 4:34:53 PM PST by Andy_Stephenson
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To: breakem
I can hack sequoia...The password is get this "Password". Did Mischelle Townsend tell you they were not connected to the internet? I bet it was. In fact the Sequoia machine DOES have a wireless connection...I have the seen the schematics for it.As for secure...Any MCSE (Of which there are 1000's) can write a VBA program and tamper with the ballots. When the election is finished the "hack" disappears. If you noticed on the back of the machine...there is a large yellow botton...that takes you into admin mode. All sorts of havoc can be wreaked there. But they just as safe as paper. Yeah...right!

14 posted on 03/09/2004 4:35:16 PM PST by Andy_Stephenson
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To: Andy_Stephenson
Nice to have NONE at 67%
15 posted on 03/09/2004 5:09:24 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Andy_Stephenson
I just saw your response. Of course we didn't talk to Michelle we were trained by someone from her office. I don't know how any one could have hacked the machines during the voting. One of us observed the voters all day. We collectively ejected the cartridges and two of us delivered them to the registrars office. We were told that the registrars machine would tabulate by counting the individual cartridges and totalling all the votes. That machine constituted a closed system and was not connected.

That sounds to me like a good system. Not impentrable, but closed.

Corrupt people can cheat on most anything. You've probably heard all the stories of corruption with paper ballots.

I'm willing to listen to specifics.

16 posted on 03/10/2004 6:34:01 PM PST by breakem
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To: Andy_Stephenson
Don't know what an MSCE is. Can someone drive by the poll and hack because there's a wireless capability. Would the machine have to have an opening to the connection or is that automatic (the yellow button). Townsend is getting alot of credit. Where is she on the wrong track? Speak plainly, I'm barely a techie.
17 posted on 03/10/2004 6:36:31 PM PST by breakem
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