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John Kerry was a member of the Naval Reserves until 1978!
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Posted on 03/07/2004 3:17:34 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate
Edited on 04/13/2004 2:11:46 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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According to the Boston Globe, John Kerry was discharged from the Naval Reserves on 16 February 1978!!
Although not on active duty, he retained his commission as an officer.
Can anyone get this out to the talk-shows??
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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1978; 2004; hanoijohn; kerry; kerryrecord; militaryrecord; paris; peacetreaty; reserves; vietcong; vvaw
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To: An.American.Expatriate
To: An.American.Expatriate
As a reservist, he certainly had some sort of reporting/drill requirements like a National Guard person would...did he fulfill his obligations? Where are the records? Will the media go after J.F'ing.K. Like they did Bush? They might on the 5th Tuesday of the next month where the name of the month does not contain the letter "R".
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posted on
03/07/2004 3:23:30 AM PST
by
Keith in Iowa
(<a href="http://moveon.org" target="blank">Communist front group</a>)
To: An.American.Expatriate
Can anyone get this out to the talk-shows??
Don't kid yourself, neighbor, they know. But remember, there are sins of omission as well as commission.
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posted on
03/07/2004 3:26:57 AM PST
by
yankeedame
("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
To: Keith in Iowa
"Will the media go after J.F'ing.K. Like they did Bush?"
Damn right they will! After Fox News, Rush, Dennis Miller, Matt Drudge, etc. work this Story for at least a week!!!
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posted on
03/07/2004 3:29:25 AM PST
by
Dacus943
To: Keith in Iowa
Not necessarily . . . upon discharge from active duty, you can be placed in the so-called "inactive" reserves. There are no reporting requirements, no pay, etc....
However, it is significant that, as an officer - he retained his commission (if he had resigned it, he probably wouldn't have been in the reserves).
Some who may be more familiar with these matters may correct me here, but, since he accepted a promotion to full Lieutenant on January 1 1970 and was discharged from active duty 3 months later, he still had an "unfulfilled" commitment and COULD have been recalled to active duty.
To: yankeedame
Do they???
I stumbled across this by accident - I have always heard that Kerry was out in 1970 - not that he was still a commissioned officer during the protests and other treasonous activities . . .
To: Dacus943
Not only that, an unsanctioned meeting, as an officer, with an enemy foriegn government should have been given at least a raised eye brow or two!
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posted on
03/07/2004 3:32:20 AM PST
by
mdmathis6
(The Democrats must be defeated in 2004...." MDMATHIS6, The Anti-Democrat")
To: An.American.Expatriate
"he still had an "unfulfilled" commitment and COULD have been recalled to active duty"
Would you want this back stabbing SOB in your Outfit???
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posted on
03/07/2004 3:33:15 AM PST
by
Dacus943
To: Dacus943
No Way!!
But that is beside the point - he went to paris and negotiated peace terms with the enemy while we where at war, while still a commissioned officer of the United States!
To: An.American.Expatriate
He was negotiating nothing. The DPRV knew he had no standing. He was just getting publicity photo ops to increase his stature with US leftists while DPRV sent pictures worldwide to show "real Progressive Americans" wanted war to end on their terms!.
This was not "negotiating," this was "aid and comfort for the enemy!"
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posted on
03/07/2004 3:49:51 AM PST
by
MindBender26
(News first,,,, fast,,,,, five minutes sooner.... on your local FReeper Network station)
To: MindBender26
Which is exactly my point!!!
And this very fact makes him ineligable to be preseident. In fact, he should never have been allowed to hold any public office!!
To: An.American.Expatriate
It's been a long time since I was an Army Reserve officer, so I won't rely on memory. According to this:
Ready Reserve"... the following individuals may be assigned to the Ready Reserve: 1. Military personnel released from active duty (other than active duty for training) who have incurred a total military obligation of up to eight years. ..."
As many of us know, the Ready Reserve is where you have those frequent meetings and the annual two-week active duty requirement. We don't have enough info on Kerry's situation yet, but this is definietly worth looking into.
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posted on
03/07/2004 4:04:32 AM PST
by
PatrickHenry
(A compassionate evolutionist.)
To: An.American.Expatriate
He was probably in the inactive reserves and did not have to attend meetings. For example, my contract with the USMC was for six years. In 1970, when I was released from active duty after 4.5 years, I had to serve the remaining 1.5 years of my contract in the inactive reserves.
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posted on
03/07/2004 4:06:28 AM PST
by
JoeGar
To: An.American.Expatriate
John Kerry had a heck of a deal!
He joined in February 1968. He made Lieutenant in 1970. He was discharged in February 1970. I calculate 1 year 11 months and a few odd days of active duty service.
He was discharged from the USNR in 1978- date not given. That means he held a valid US Navy commission until 1978, and could be called to active duty at any time while in that status. As a matter of fact, inactive reserve members were called up for the Gulf Wars when they thought they were done with the service.
In less than 2 years, he joined, went through his basic officer training , served on a destroyer, went to swift boats, got all those cute medals, and made Lt(O-3).
I dont know what his original enlistment/commissioning contract was, but I know my original enlistment period was 6 years, with 4 to be served on active duty and the rest in the reserves.
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posted on
03/07/2004 4:10:25 AM PST
by
judicial meanz
(Socialism is a mental disorder, and John Kerry is its national poster child)
To: PatrickHenry; JoeGar
Yes, this is what I recall as well - it would be interesting to know if it was just the "unfulfilled commitment" stuff, or something else - BUT the real point is he was STILL a commisioned officer!
PH - Since you were an officer, maybe you know the answer to this . . . does a commission "expire"?
To: mdmathis6
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posted on
03/07/2004 4:14:51 AM PST
by
atomic conspiracy
(Know the enemy, the Hollywood/Madison Avenue Cultural Axis.)
To: judicial meanz
Not exactly correct . . .
February 18, 1966 Kerry formally enlists in the U.S. Navy
January 1, 1970 Kerry promoted to (full) Lieutenant
January 3, 1970 Kerry requests discharge
March 1, 1970 Kerrys date of separation from Active Duty
February 16, 1978 - Discharged from the US Navy Reserves
To: judicial meanz
He joined in February 1968. He made Lieutenant in 1970. He was discharged in February 1970. I calculate 1 year 11 months and a few odd days of active duty service. Did the "powers that be" in the Navy want to get Kerry out of the Navy more than Kerry wanted to get out of the Navy? It appears that the Navy was EXTREMELY anxious and willing to get rid of Kerry!
To: An.American.Expatriate
1. Commissions don't expire...you have to resign your commission at the end of your reserve service.
2. This is a non-story, and a non-issue. I stand second to no one in loathing and opposing Kerry, but there are better arguments against him,
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