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The Facts Show 2.4 Million Jobs Created Under Bush
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Posted on 03/06/2004 11:14:49 PM PST by MaineVoter2002

The Facts Show 2.4 Million Jobs Created Under Bush

The media and Democrats keep repeating it over and over: "2.3 million jobs lost" since President Bush took office. His could be the worst job record since before World War II, they claim. One little problem: It's not true.

Not only has there been no net loss of jobs during the Bush administration, there has been a net gain, even with the devastation of 9/11. At least 2.4 million jobs have been created since the president took office, 2 million of those in 2003. The gains more than offset the losses.

While Democrats continue to beat their election-year drums about outsourcing, manufacturing losses, unemployment and slow growth in employment, America's economy has been steadily creating jobs.

At least 366,000 jobs have been created in the last five months, over 100,000 of those in January, White House press secretary Scott McClellan has noted. And though the eight-month recession "officially" ended in November, economic indicators are surprising economists and pointing toward a take-off in the recovery.

The signs:

The 5.6 percent unemployment rate is the lowest in two years and below the average of the 1980s (7.3 percent) and '90s (5.8 percent), and still continues to drop.

The nation's economic output revealed the strongest quarterly growth in 20 years. The data for the fourth quarter of 2003 show that the civilian labor force rose by 333,000, while the number of unemployed in the labor force dropped by 575,000. Even better, the number of so-called discouraged workers declined in December.

Consumer spending grew between 4 percent and 5 percent last year, and real hourly earnings rose 1.5 percent. Real earnings have risen over the last three years.

Exports doubled to 19 percent in the fourth quarter, compared to less than 9 percent in the third.

The number of American workers is at an all-time high of 138.5 million, a level never before attained in U.S. history.

Jobless claims are 10 percent below the average of the last 25 years and still falling. Hiring indices are up, even in manufacturing. Productivity growth is extremely high.

Now the doomsayers are criticizing the validity of the unemployment rate, which at 5.6 percent does not fit their gloomy story. Faulty Counting The problem is the areas of biggest job growth are usually not even being counted at all.

Though 75 percent of jobs are created by small companies, according to the Small Business Administration, this sector's entrepreneurial activity and the jobs it creates are left out by Washington bean counters when calculating official new job numbers. The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) does its Payroll Survey by phoning businesses to crunch the number of jobs that have been gained or lost. This is where Democrats grabbed onto their lifeline, the 2.3 million figure. Look only at the Payroll Survey, and there has been a gain of only 522,000 jobs since Bush took office.

But here's the rub. The Household Survey is used to determine the unemployment rate and accounts for those who are self-employed, and small emerging businesses that might be overlooked by the Payroll Survey. But the number of U.S. firms isn't static, and the "fixed list" used by the BLS for phoning established businesses does not reflect new entrepreneurial activity.

People are called at home and asked if they have jobs, or if they are in the market for a job. In contrast to the Payroll Survey, the Household Survey shows that 2.4 million jobs have been created so far during Bush's time in office. As Economy.com writer Haseeb Ahmed recently wrote, "something is amiss in the [Payroll] survey."

Credit Where Credit Is Due

That's not all. When doomsayers, and media spoiling for a fight in an election year, laughed at Bush's prediction of 2.6 million new jobs this year, not everyone was scoffing.

Ahmed, Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan and others hardly batted an eye. Greenspan said it was "probably feasible" the economy would reach the Bush administration's forecast of adding 2.6 million jobs this year, provided growth continues and the productivity rate slows to more typically levels.

"I don't think it's 'Fantasyland,'" Greenspan said. "I agree with him," said John Ryding, chief market economist at Bear Stearns. "I think that we will create 2.5 million, possibly more, jobs over the balance of the year."

Ahmed is convinced that "the revision patterns of the early-1990s recovery cycle" will be repeated. A total of 1.4 million job gains were revised upward to 2.9 million in the first 21 months after the end of the last recession, just after Bush Sr. was voted out of office.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/2/25/171833.shtml

If elected, will John Kerry get credit for the jobs created under the Bush administration?

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: busheconomy; bushrecovery; gop; jobcreation; jobs; liberalmedia; taxcuts
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To: Texasforever
Ah yes, I remember you mentioned her the other night. She drove you to drinking. LOL :)
81 posted on 03/07/2004 12:58:02 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Destro
Here is a serious question. How old are you and what is your work experience? I don’t mean it is a sinister way I just want a handle on where your perspective comes from.
82 posted on 03/07/2004 12:58:26 AM PST by Texasforever (When democrats attack it is called campaigning)
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To: Texasforever
I am young and I have had work experiance.
83 posted on 03/07/2004 1:01:42 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
In what capacity?
84 posted on 03/07/2004 1:02:21 AM PST by Texasforever (When democrats attack it is called campaigning)
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To: MaineVoter2002
Bump!
85 posted on 03/07/2004 1:02:48 AM PST by Cold Heat (In politics stupidity is not a handicap. --Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: Texasforever
in the employed capacity.
86 posted on 03/07/2004 1:05:50 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
So in other words you are young and are in the employed capacity but yet you are feel qualified to expound on what is wrong with American enterprise and all its ills. Is that about right?
87 posted on 03/07/2004 1:08:44 AM PST by Texasforever (When democrats attack it is called campaigning)
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To: Texasforever
I hold a couple of business degrees and I know of the domestic and international HEAVY manufacturing industry with some intimacy to this day.
88 posted on 03/07/2004 1:18:20 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
I hold a couple of business degrees and I know of the domestic and international HEAVY manufacturing industry with some intimacy to this day.

Friend those degrees are not worth the paper they are written on until you actually apply them in the real world. You don't even know what you don't know yet.

89 posted on 03/07/2004 1:37:50 AM PST by Texasforever (When democrats attack it is called campaigning)
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To: MJY1288
Didn't Rush expose this job thing several months ago ..??

Hey Mike, how are you feeling! Did you get checked out with a doctor ..??
90 posted on 03/07/2004 2:09:06 AM PST by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: Texasforever; FreeReign; onyx
I wrote: "The downside is that half of those jobs created are for government employees, and the other half for illegal aliens." To which you collectively replied: "You made the claim now back it up."

Are you too touchy to recognize satirical criticism? Since Bush has been in office, he's been spending enormous amounts of our tax dollars on bloated government programs (hence, the reference to "half the jobs created for government employees"), and he's been enticing more illegal aliens to stream into America with his overtures of amnesty and other open-border concessions to Vicente Fox (hence the reference to "half the jobs going to illegals").

Was my comment an exaggeration? Yes, probably... eh, possibly... eh, hmmm, well who knows? With one out of seven Americans working for some branch of government in this country, it isn't a stretch to imagine 1.2 million new government jobs being created in a four year period under any spendthrift president. And with the almost complete abrogation of control of our borders, combined with a "do not deport" attitude, combined with an offer of amnesty... well, again it isn't difficult to imagine that the ranks of 7-9 million illegal aliens haven't swelled by another million in the past four years.

When it comes to criticizing the Dems, I guess all's fair. But don't we dare criticize "one of our own," eh? Fortunately, I'm an independent conservative so I can criticize any politician who fails to uphold the Constitution and promote conservative principles.

91 posted on 03/07/2004 3:39:30 AM PST by SpyGuy
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To: DoughtyOne
Wonder what the individual state unemployemt rates are? Tenn is 4.9% right now. BELOW the national average. Yes there are pockets like rural areas that have very little industry. My town of 9,000 (20 miles from Memphis) has 3 new buildings going up, Walgreens and Lowes, don't know what the other is....they added two other new ones last year a Lenny's sub and a Paint/flooring store..all new buildings in a town that hasn't seen a new one since the Super Wal-Mart went in a few years ago. Also the two largest Baptist churches are building NEW churches to house their growing congregrations.
92 posted on 03/07/2004 3:53:41 AM PST by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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To: MaineVoter2002
*BUMP*!
93 posted on 03/07/2004 4:11:01 AM PST by ex-Texan
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To: ex-Texan
Riddle me this...if we have supposedly lost 2.3 mil jobs under Bush, then WHY are there more employed now than when Clinton was in office? Those monthly 'jobs' figures we keep hearing about are starting to be as worthless as consumer sentiment.
94 posted on 03/07/2004 4:16:25 AM PST by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation
Though 75 percent of jobs are created by small companies, according to the Small Business Administration, this sector's entrepreneurial activity and the jobs it creates are left out by Washington bean counters when calculating official new job numbers. The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) does its Payroll Survey by phoning businesses to crunch the number of jobs that have been gained or lost. This is where Democrats grabbed onto their lifeline, the 2.3 million figure. Look only at the Payroll Survey, and there has been a gain of only 522,000 jobs since Bush took office.

LOL guess I should've read the whole article, those montly jobs figures ARE bunk, like the one we heard yesterday. Telephone surveys? Puhleeeease.

If there are 138 mil working right now and that is the highest its ever been, then jobs have NOT been lost.

95 posted on 03/07/2004 4:18:52 AM PST by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: SpyGuy
Are you too touchy to recognize satirical criticism?

Heh..good wiggle work.

Unfortunately, what you say about our president is true. Despite that, I'm still voting for him because I also recognize his strong leadership and character in times when such traits are essential.

You cannot trust the nation's security to a RAT!!
Pure and Simple.

96 posted on 03/07/2004 4:22:12 AM PST by evad (Cut taxes again. Cut spending. Cut Guv Regulations. Cut Guv Programs...Repeat)
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To: SpyGuy
Are you too touchy to recognize satirical criticism?

Guilty as charged.

97 posted on 03/07/2004 4:28:09 AM PST by onyx (Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Jeffrey Dahmer, and Timothy McVeigh)
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To: CyberAnt
I don't know about Rush, but I did about a month ago. If you want to see the raw government data, go to this link and follow the links I provided there.
98 posted on 03/07/2004 4:42:28 AM PST by Dan Zachary
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To: GailA; Texasforever; FreeReign; onyx
it isn't a stretch to imagine 1.2 million new government jobs being created in a four year period under any spendthrift president.

It's getting hard to tell -- is this exaggerated sarcasm again?  

Bashing-bush is easy, for that anyone can just make up the numbers.   Earning a living is a bit more demanding.    For those of us who need econ data to feed our families, an clear understanding of hard economic realities has to be a lot better than what someone might need for say, winning a political argument.  That's why we first checked the places like  BEA and BLS sites, and then faced that fact that more people are working now than ever before, and they're making better wages than ever before.  Like it or not.

Then again, when we want to bash-bush we just make up numbers (ALERT: that last part was facetious).

99 posted on 03/07/2004 5:08:02 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama
Then again, when we want to bash-bush we just make up numbers (ALERT: that last part was facetious).

Ditto, and "roger on the alert."

100 posted on 03/07/2004 5:11:31 AM PST by onyx (Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Jeffrey Dahmer, and Timothy McVeigh)
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