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Defector says Iranian military pro-U.S.
WorldNetDaily | March 5, 2004 | WorldNetDaily

Posted on 03/05/2004 9:56:29 PM PST by F14 Pilot

A former commander of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps has defected to Azerbaijan and disclosed that Iran's military is infused with pro-U.S. sentiment.

Col. Bakharali Bagiryan arrived in Baku last week.

"I came to Azerbaijan 40 days ago and was registered with the Azerbaijani representative office of the UNHCR as a political 魩gr鬢 Bagiryan said at the Baku Press Club Feb. 23.

Bagiryan said many Iranian military troops would like to defect.

"In Iran, the military are not issued with passports, which deprives them of the opportunity to leave the country legally," he said. "I have been sent to Azerbaijan in the capacity of a representative of those who want cardinal changes in Iran's state structure."

The IRGC are Islamic shock troops and are Teheran's key liaison with international terrorist groups, such as Lebanese Hezbollah.

Bagiryan said some 40 percent of servicemen in the Iranian army think as he does and are "waiting for the arrival of America in Iran."

"The strengthening of the U.S. position in the region causes optimism among many Iranian servicemen and they secretly support the operation in Iraq," the colonel said. "I think that many of them would back a similar U.S. operation in Iran."

Bagiryan said Teheran's claim that the Iranian army fully supports the government is groundless. He said he intended to stay in Azerbaijan and help those fighting for the national interests of southern Azerbaijan.

His remarks appeared in the Baku newspaper Turan, an independent, non-governmental news agency close to the People's Front of Azerbaijan.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: america; azerbaijan; defectors; iran; military; proamerican; unhcr
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To: FreeReign
It was not my intention to imply that we would move troops into S.A., although that is what it looked like. I do believe we will apply pressure when the time is right. I don't think that is without some risk though.

If we happen to have a 'Jimmy Carter' leftist in there when that time comes, he'll mismanage that effort into another 30 year problem like Iran has been.

Our major problem in that area is that the population seems to love living in the 5th century. Most humans would look at the modern world and see that as superior to what the people in the middle-east put up with. All too many over there take one look at the modern world and say not thanks.

Hopefully, that will change with a modernized successful and upwardly mobile Iraq. We shall see. I think it's iffy at best.
21 posted on 03/05/2004 10:47:58 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: RussianConservative
Yep, that is certainly a problem. Gorby is probably watching this with a certain sense of delight.
22 posted on 03/05/2004 10:50:17 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Humidston
I smell something too, and I sure hope for everyone's sake that is what it is. Heh heh heh...
23 posted on 03/05/2004 10:51:01 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: RussianConservative
Unless US run even megaer deficit and print much more monies, who gonna pay for all that...oh and US city on Mars too?

We take oil, and pay for conquests and we take trip to Mars and build big city so that we can look down on Russia.

OK?

24 posted on 03/05/2004 10:52:49 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: DoughtyOne
Our major problem in that area is that the population seems to love living in the 5th century.

Agreed.

25 posted on 03/05/2004 10:52:58 PM PST by F14 Pilot
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To: FreeReign
We take oil, and pay for conquests and we take trip to Mars and build big city so that we can look down on Russia.

LOOOOOOOL!!!

26 posted on 03/05/2004 10:53:53 PM PST by F14 Pilot
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To: DoughtyOne
I do believe we will apply pressure when the time is right.

I think the time is right -- now -- and I believe the pressure was applied back in Crawford two summers ago.

And I think Abdullah and his inner circle have been responding.

We'll see.

27 posted on 03/05/2004 10:57:24 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: F14 Pilot
The Iranian nuclear reactors must be taken out before its too late. This is very dangerous.
28 posted on 03/05/2004 10:59:13 PM PST by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: FreeReign
I'm not so sure that Crawford trip held as much sway as the bombings on Saudi soil did. All of a sudden terrorism was something to think about, har. I do agree some pressure is being applied.
29 posted on 03/05/2004 10:59:43 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: FreeReign
Yes, oil like in Iraq, who production fraction of what was for Saddam...yes you take Iran oil right till someone put RPG round into pipes...or new job for US unemployed...guard ever meter Iran/Iraq oil lines?
30 posted on 03/05/2004 11:02:53 PM PST by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: FreeReign
ROFL!!
31 posted on 03/05/2004 11:03:35 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: DoughtyOne
Gorby is piece of communist crap who make millions in US by talking at $1,000 seat dinner...oh and has offices in California. Kruschov's son, Stalin's daughter, several former KGB generals, etc, they all come to US...interesting crowd US attract these days....enjoy them, because Russia has no use for them.
32 posted on 03/05/2004 11:05:14 PM PST by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: DoughtyOne
I'm not so sure that Crawford trip held as much sway as the bombings on Saudi soil did. All of a sudden terrorism was something to think about, har. I do agree some pressure is being applied.

You might be right, but I also have another theory.

That the bombings in S.A. occured after Abdullah began the crackdown on Al-Qaeda in S.A..

And Abdullah began the crackdown on Al-Qaeda in S.A. after the U.S. removed a large chunk of A.Q. from around the world, after the U.S. removed Saddam from Iraq, and also after the U.S. tried something called the "Roadmap".

And all this was agreed to back in Crawford.

Also, see Pakistan for a similar series of events.

JMO

33 posted on 03/05/2004 11:10:14 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: RussianConservative
The subversive dollars that made their way into the green party of Europe in the 70s, is now making it's way into mainstream leftist circles in the United States. Soviet Russia may not exist, but it's foot soldiers have been loyal adherants to it's cause. That cause is fluorishing in the United States in ways the general public is completely blind to.

Attacks on our judidial system, our education system, our political structures, our commerce, our communities and even our nation, via our media, the ACLU our political system and the education system itself, is taking this nation down.

I know, I know, this nation is the greatest on the planet. Nothing is sound when it's inner core is riddled to the degree our core institutions are.
34 posted on 03/05/2004 11:16:58 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Zeroisanumber; RussianConservative
I agree with you and RussianC. Aside from the dismal reception in Iraq, there is also the Iran/Iraq war to consider. Back then (time beyond memory - when old Sadaam was our mate) it was said that the Iranian army hated the Khomeni regime, and would welcome the Iraqis, and do a military coup in support of the invasion.

Instead, although they did hate the government, they hated the invaders MORE, and fought very stubbornly.
35 posted on 03/05/2004 11:21:59 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: FreeReign
I'm tired and don't remember the exact timelines on some of this, so I'm going to say that I think your comments are reasonable and may describe things quite accurately.

I am not a roadmap adherant myself. We said we would persue every terrorist on the planet. We haven't. Yasser Arafat continues to network with other terrorist organizations. He continues to terrorise Israel. He continues to foster support for those who would do us harm.

36 posted on 03/05/2004 11:22:40 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: CzarNicky
God helps those who help themselves.

Indeed. Our forefathers didn't wait for the French to come help before they started the American Revolution. They started the Revolution, and then a few years later the French came.

37 posted on 03/05/2004 11:25:54 PM PST by squidly (Money is inconvenient for them: give them victuals and an arse-clout, it is enough.)
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To: DoughtyOne
We said we would persue every terrorist on the planet. We haven't. Yasser Arafat continues to network with other terrorist organizations. He continues to terrorise Israel. He continues to foster support for those who would do us harm.

If we don't remove Arafat and his associated terrorist organizations in Syria and the Baaka Valley, then the WOT will have been a failure.

IMV, we are saving the best for last. It will be easier that way, when they are isolated.

38 posted on 03/05/2004 11:29:24 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: BlackVeil
You made a mistake regarding the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980's.
You forget that Iranians dislike Arabs.
Arabs had invaded Persia once before (around 1400 yrs ago).
That coup you mentioned was to bring the Shah to Iran which failed because Soviets gave all necessary info to the Mullahs' regime.
39 posted on 03/05/2004 11:31:24 PM PST by F14 Pilot
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To: FreeReign
I don't think it would be all that hard to remove the bastard. Cut off his bank accounts and he wouldn't last long. Once again, I think your comments make sense. I wouldn't waste time holding off on Arafat while his proxies continue to perpetrate terrorism at will.
40 posted on 03/05/2004 11:34:43 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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