What was FDR doing when Pearl Harbor was attacked? (RUSH's question)

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[shutup_you_idiot]

Rush just asked what FDR was doing when he heard the news of Pearl Harbor being attacked. He was talking about the snide remarks by the liberal media about how Bush was talking to a bunch of school kids when "3,000 people were murdered."

Looks like a job for FReeper sleuths!

Was FDR... (gasp!)... Snacking on brunch in the Oval Office study?!

http://216.239.37.104/search?q=cache:KaDqY89qzzMJ:www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/pearl.htm+December+7,+1941+%22pearl+harbor%22+roosevelt+%22united+states%22+morning+afternoon&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

"Word of the attack reached President Roosevelt as he lunched in his oval study on Sunday afternoon."

[Cubs Fan]

Also just as important or more, is Rush citing the fact that FDR ran his election with the slogan "remember pearl Harbor"

Let's see FDR can use Pearl harbor, Kerry can use Vietnam, but Bush can't use 9-11.

[FourPeas]

That's the jackpot.

[CougarGA7]

Interesting idea. Sounds like a good topic for a vanity.

Good idea. Give me about 20 minutes and I'll post it as a Freeper Research Project.

[Wyatt's Torch]

Rush citing the fact that FDR ran his election with the slogan "remember pearl Harbor"

All this will be over by Monday and W will still have a whole mess of ads to air. The hypocrites fail again.

[pete anderson]

It would seem that on December 6, 1941 that there was little question of if the U.S. would get involved in the War however, few in Congress would grant FDR approval for military action against Japan and Germany.

[Terry Mross]

I really don't want to know what Bill Clinton was doing when ANYTHING happened. He was probably doing the same thing any porn star was doing. Whatever it was I'm sure it wasn't pretty.

[antiRepublicrat]

FDR response was likely: "what took them so long, now we can get rolling into this war".

More like "Ah, exactly as planned. Those Japs sure are punctual."

[Far Right Of Left]

Rush just asked what FDR was doing when he heard the news of Pearl Harbor being attacked ? I do know this,he wasn't out jogging....

[Spook86]

A more salient question is what was FDR up to the months before Pearl Harbor was attacked. In 2001, journalist Robert Stinnett published an excellent book ("Day of Deceit") that makes a convincing argument that FDR and his senior military leaders had strong intelligence that the Japanese were preparing to attack Pearl Harbor, but failed to notify U.S. commanders in Hawaii. Their rationale: U.S. entry into the war was inevitable, and they needed a pretext for American mailitary intervention.

Incidentally, Stinnett's book was based on 20 years of research in the national archives and hundreds of FOIA requests. He uncovered documents which (among other things) advocate a provocative U.S. policy towards Japan, and communications intercepts (from U.S. SIGINT stations) that pinpointed a large Japanese naval force north of Hawaii on December 6, 1941.

Democrats who claim President Bush was negligent or liable in 9/11 should examine the record of their icon the final months of 1941. I never put much credence in Pearl Harbor conspiracy theories until I read Stinnett's bok....

[jmstein7]

BUMP!

[newgeezer]

The President believed it.

"Believed it" hell. "Counted on it" is more likely.

[malia]

- can't have a doctored picture going about - again!!!

[newgeezer]

The obvious difference is that Pearl Harbor was a military target; the WTC victims were civilians who were not tasked with defending their country.

Somehow, the libs will scramble to find some way of making that difference a relevant one and one that works in their favor.

[breakem]

Thanks for refreshing my memory. I'm not senile, just forgetful. LOl!

[Dixie Pirate]

But the difference is that FDR DID know about Pearl Harbor before the attack, at least that's what the documents 2 days prior date said.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

the stupid Japanese military into launching.

Individual Japanese are not stupid, but boy did they act stupidly collectively. The Pearl Harbor attack was incompetently executed and conceived on the flawed premise that the U.S. would fold like the Russians in 1905. Maybe if there had been newsreel footage of Port Arthur in 1905, the Russian would have been filled with terrible resolve. The biggest problem with the execution was that it did little to hamper U.S. war fighting efforts. No carriers were attacked and harbor facilities were not seriously damaged. The battleships lost proved to be of little consequence in the naval air war that ensued.

One wonders if the Tali-ban had it to do over, would they attacked aircraft carries in Norfolk and San Diego instead? Crippling four CV's would have dealt the U.S. a serious blow in our ability to retaliate.

[Yaelle]

Which is better to be caught doing when your country to which you have been elected President is suddenly attacked?

A) Serving others, in full view of cameras

B) Serving yourself lunch, in full view of witnesses

C) Having a service performed upon you, in full view of no one, although no one is really ever alone, are they?

[Cooter]

From Dereliction of Duty Review Summary:

...cited an event on the golf course on September 16, 1996. The military had been put on alert to retaliate against Iraq for their capture of the Kurdish city of Irbil in violation of peace agreement signed to end the Gulf War. The Air Force found an appropriate target and needed Clinton's approval to proceed. Clinton's National Security Advisor, Sandy Berger, phoned for Clinton three times at the golf course while the planes were en route to the target. Clinton refused to take the calls. Finally, when it was too late to continue, the strike was called off; the planes returned. During similar periods of indecision by Clinton, Osama bi Laden was given a chance to escape our military. Later, Osama bin Laden was captured by Sudan, who offered bin Laden to the Saudis. The Saudis declined, but Clinton could have accepted bin Laden from Sudan.

[Fiddlstix]

Good Lord! Don't the Rats ever give it a rest.......
What will they come up with next?

[Yaelle]

There are wackos on the right who honestly believe Bush knew an attack was being planned but did nothing to stop it.

What is their evidence, or what they think is evidence? If it truly is likely that FDR knew of the attacks, I would like to hear how and why people believe GWB could have had any knowledge that the planes were about to hit the towers. I have never seen anything about this. FDR lied to everyone about what he knew about the Holocaust at the time and he denied many Jews the right to escape to this country, so I would be more likely to believe he knew of an impending attack by the Japanese, but I do not believe Bush would have wanted 9/11 for anything.