Posted on 03/04/2004 10:31:36 PM PST by scripter
You defending tyranny makes me sick.
You defending tyranny makes me sick.
People who make assumptions, without the least basis otherthan preconceived notions make me sick.
I suggest you check into where those quotes come from and why I might be taking the position I do.
The Erwin Rommel School of Law litigation lawyers judges corrupt ...
How much of the nations currency do you use?
That is a benefit you use or contribute to society with as you chose.
There is a simple measure that doesn't require government to keep track of you in collecting it.
- It is fairer to tax people on what they extract from the economy, as roughly measured by their consumption, than to tax them on what they produce for the economy, as roughly measured by their income.
No assumption, you support a corrupt organization, the courts, and by doing so, you are aiding the enemies of freedom.
Last I heard the Courts are part of the Constitutional framework of our form of government.
You are now saying you are against the constitution, and the structure of this Republic.
I suggest you take a look.
And any who refuse to learn how to deal with such, are lambs for the shearing:
And that's being optimistic!! The rolling destruction of our constitution has gathered momentum, and essentially nothing short of a purge of those judges...and so-called representatives...who refuse to accept the supremacy of God, the People, and the Constitution (in that order).
Unfortunately, I see insufficient rage out there to restore the Constitutional balances and law-abiding judiciary. Has anybody polled the half of the electorate that does not vote? Just think about that for a sec. If they won't vote, how can they be counted on for anything MORE? They can't.
If they won't vote, how can they be counted on for anything MORE? They can't.
That just makes your vote count twice as much, doesn't it?
Only 10% of those who vote at all, vote in primaries.
That increases you vote's leverage 20 times, picking the candidate to run.
Only 10% of those participate in party caucuses. Setting the primary ballot entries, and platform issues.
That increases your vote's leverage 200 times
And all you can think to do is bitch and moan.
Have you actually look at the reports on the courts being hijacked by socialist judges and lawyers.
on the courts being hijacked by socialist judges and lawyers.
My support of the institutions of the Constitution is not to be construed for support of judges and lawyers violating oaths of office and ethics and the cannons of law.
The only way you are going to preserve the institutions of the Constitution and correct the problems in government is by working through the mechanisms laid out in the constitution to address such issues.
Any other route undermines the authority of the Constitution and rule of law, and destroys the very thing you say you want to preserve, personal liberty under the protection of the Constitution.
Judges for the most part are ABOVE the law.
Take another look at the constitution, Judges are not "ABOVE" the law, it however is up to us to make sure those in elective office represent us and take the corrective actions laid out in the Constitution.
And I will not support those who seek to enslave and/or destroy me.
Have I said you should support a malfeasant judge or anything of the sort?
All I have done is try to point you to ways that can
1) help protect you from their predations or find redress to personal harm done to you and
2) correct the essential problem by,
- invoking the means to removal of bad judges,
- appointment of good ones, and
- setting rules that confine their actions to referee in a court, and not legislators sitting on a bench.
2) It isn't going to happen overnight, 1) is available to you now in your own capacities to take appropriate actions, and learn about how the legal systems in this country do work and use the information to help keep yourself out of their clutches.
Duh, something from nothing? The hook of the con.
I see, you are then willing to give up all deductions, credits, personal exemptions in your income tax? I notice no such thing is in any legislation before congress, except VATs they have sitting around for passing when no one is looking.
I'm sure Congress is more than ready to accomodate you. Course you get to keep the individual income tax to, while they are at it.
The function of the NRST's FCA is to provide that level of tax relief that represents the necessities of maintaining life. A tax on a right (that of Life) being a anethama to any free people.
Or wrather you rather like the complexities of a the guchi-gulch lobby wrangling over with items to exempt, deciding what to allow for your exceptions.
No there is not something for nothing. The NRST without the FCA would be 21.3% with it it is 23%. The difference between a bill that can be enacted, and one that is dead at the doorstep.
A choice between opening the door to governement defining what items are necessity through the current processes of political wrangling, and a simple allowence paid equally to all legal residents, is a no brainer.
By the way you are not required to take the FCA if you do not want it, you are free to refuse, just don't tell government where you liv., It's easy as that and provided for in the legislation.
But I do know when I spent $4.5 million renovating a hotel, I had to pay the sales and use tax on everything I bought from my state and others (Tenn has use tax laws).
We had these same discussions back in the late 1970's in college. I was arguing against NRST even then.
I might point out that your past experiences with "state" sales and use taxes are getting into the way of understanding the NRST of HR25 and what it does.
First is a strict retail on tax, made expressly visible to the electorate. That is one of its primary purposes is to make federal taxation visible to everyone.
Businesses do not pay the NRST on their purchases. Under the legislation you would not be pay the NRST on the things you buy for legitimate business use. Business purchases for legitimate business function are not taxed. Such a tax is not visible to the public as a whole, and defeats the intent of the legislation to assure maximum visiblity and knowing participation in the federal tax system.
I really do encourage you to read the legislation, you are making far to many erroneous assumptions about the NRST based on how states apply sales taxes.
Refer also: http://www.fairtax.org & http://www.salestax.org
This is what discriminates the NRST tax from a value added tax where a 'sales' tax is collected every time a product or raw material changes hands at a higher price (added value) than it was purchased for. The 'value added' system hides and buries taxes so that no one ever knows how much tax they are really paying when they make a purchase (as does our current system).
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