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HOT: New Miranda STUFF: MEMO-DEMS COVER UP LEAKS ON REPUB EMAIL
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Posted on 03/04/2004 11:44:28 AM PST by diotima



TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: collusionmemos; memogate; memos; miranda
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To: Sabertooth
Will you please chill out and take a happy pill
41 posted on 03/04/2004 12:13:03 PM PST by Mo1 (Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?)
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To: Sabertooth
You are a 100% right.

When the Dems leaked the Repub email, you didn't hear any Dem shaking a finger at one of their own. But it sure ain't the other way around, is it?

42 posted on 03/04/2004 12:13:53 PM PST by diotima (Free the Miranda Memos!)
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To: diotima
Something for the archives...
43 posted on 03/04/2004 12:13:53 PM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: diotima
Democrat "No Hispanic Judges" Memo update ---
Full article here

Committee leaders "want to give out as much information as possible, but we don't want to hamstring a possible prosecution," said Vermont Sen. Patrick Leahy, the panel's ranking Democrat.

Committee chairman Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, said he planned to release a version of the report with portions deleted but was willing to hear arguments for a more limited release.

"Whether any criminal laws were broken, the improper access was wrong and unjustifiable," he said earlier. He blamed "two misguided former Senate staffers" for the computer intrusion.

In addition to the thousands of documents that Democrats say were reached, Hatch said more than 100 of his computer files were "improperly accessed and transmitted outside the Senate."

Democrats also want to know if the White House or the Justice Department got copies of the memos and used them to coach Bush's nominees for confirmation hearings.

"If you take things that do not belong to you, that is wrong and there is no way to whitewash that," Leahy said before the closed hearing.

44 posted on 03/04/2004 12:14:00 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: mathluv
bump
45 posted on 03/04/2004 12:16:04 PM PST by not-alone
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To: Dog
*L* ... should we???

Leahy, Patrick - (D - VT) Class III
433 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-4242
E-mail: senator_leahy@leahy.senate.gov
46 posted on 03/04/2004 12:16:13 PM PST by Mo1 (Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?)
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To: Dog Gone
"I'm not going to defend Hatch, but when the Republicans publicized the Democrat memos on how they intend to obstruct the confirmation of judges, that was political hardball."

And thanks to Hatch "I have a perty snat%$", they promtly got that 'hardball' shoved back where the sun don't shine didn't they?

47 posted on 03/04/2004 12:16:56 PM PST by nobody_knows (<a href="http://http://www.michaelmoore.com/" target="_blank">moral coward)
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To: Dog
If I remember right, Leahy leaked confidential intelligence to the press that he had heard during a closed door Senate intelligence committee. A leak that which may have or did undermine National Security.
48 posted on 03/04/2004 12:18:30 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Sabertooth
We're still talking about process instead of content, and the GOP is still on the defensive, still playing on the Dems' terms.

No, the media talks about process because it doesn't want to get into the uncomfortable content. The Dems get their message out better than Republicans because of friendly newspapers and television networks.

I don't have a solution for that, but if you don't think the Republicans can play hardball, you must have missed the Texas redistricting fight of last summer.

49 posted on 03/04/2004 12:19:48 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: diotima
SHAME ON HATCH!!!!

Once more, the biggest RINO in the west screws up, folds like a cheap deck of cards, and cowers in astonishment at a Democratic attack.

SHAME!!!!
50 posted on 03/04/2004 12:19:55 PM PST by ZULU (God Bless Senator Joe McCarthy!!!)
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To: concerned about politics
Orrin Hatch makes me almost as sick as Pat Leahy does....Senator Hatch is either the weakest excuse for a man ever made, or he is compromised in some way. Either way, he is a disgrace.
51 posted on 03/04/2004 12:20:36 PM PST by MamaLucci (Clinton met with 20 year old Monica more than with his CIA Director...think about that....)
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To: diotima
The relationship between Leahy's press secy and Al Kamen of Washington Post should be scrutinized real closely and noted for future reference, like Kamen being the pitbull for Leahy and other demoncRATS. Anyone living in the D.C. metropolitan area knows that the Washington Post, has been, is and always will be the mouthpiece for the demoncRAT party.
52 posted on 03/04/2004 12:21:40 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Mo1




Will you please chill out and take a happy pill

Thanks, I'll just say no.

Draw aside the panglossian haze, and look at the facts. They are as I stated them.


53 posted on 03/04/2004 12:21:50 PM PST by Sabertooth (Malcontent for Bush - 2004!)
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To: diotima
I hope you have these saved in a safe place.
54 posted on 03/04/2004 12:21:51 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: BigSkyFreeper
EXAMPLES OF DEMOCRAT LEAKS

“I can’t help but think there’s a journalistic double standard operating here in which partisan leaks to conservative journals and journalists (the Novak-Plame incident, for another example) are treated as capital crimes, but partisan leaks that wound Republicans are regarded as the highest form of truth telling.” (Jack Shafer, “Globe, Too Hot; Times, Too Cold,” Slate, 1/23/04)

2003: Leak Of Justice Department Draft Legislation, Praised By Leahy. “[A]n understandably anonymous whistleblower in the Justice Department leaked the 86-page draft of Attorney General John Ashcroft’s proposed USA Patriot Act II to Charles Lewis of the Committee on Public Integrity … Three days after the leak, Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont, ranking Democratic member of the Judiciary Committee, said: ‘For months, and as recently as just last week, Justice Department officials have denied to members of the Judiciary Committee that they were drafting another anti-terrorism package.’” (Nat Hentoff, Op-Ed, “Hush-Hush At The Justice Department,” The Washington Times, 5/5/03)

June 2002: Use Of Misplaced Computer Disk. “In June of 2002, a White House intern lost a computer disk in Lafayette Park. A Democratic Senate aide happened to find it, discovering a PowerPoint presentation by Rove and White House political director Ken Mehlman. Moore and Slater find dark significance in one slide that urged Republicans to ‘focus on war and the economy.’ Democrats damned that advice as a Rove effort to ‘politicize’ terrorism.” (John F. Pitney, Jr., “Accidental Genius: Is Karl Rove Really Bush’s Brain?” Reason, 10/1/03)

November 2000: Leak Of President’s DUI Arrest. “Claiming responsibility for the leak was Tom Connolly, a Portland, Maine, lawyer and former Democratic gubernatorial candidate who was a Gore delegate to the Democratic National Convention. Connolly told CNN he had gotten the information last Thursday and said ‘it came to me in my capacity as an attorney.’” (Kenneth T. Walsh; Angie Cannon; Gary Cohen, “A Bumpy, Bumptious Ride, Right To The End,” Newsweek, 11/13/00)

November 1999: Leak Of President’s College Transcripts. “The New Yorker magazine has published what it claims are the presidential candidate’s grades from Yale University. … Bush had declined to released [sic] the transcripts, but somebody at Yale managed to acquire the records - and leak them.” (Editorial, “Not Exactly An Honor-Roll Performance,” Fort Worth Star-Telegram, 11/14/99)

1998: Leak Of Linda Tripp’s Personnel File. “Last week Clinton’s Justice Department, after sitting on a Pentagon inspector general’s report for 20 months, decided it won’t prosecute anyone for illegally leaking contents of Tripp’s confidential personnel file to a magazine. The inspector general told the Senate Armed Services Committee last week he submitted his report to Justice in July 1998. The report detailed the role of Pentagon spokesman Kenneth Bacon and another Defense Department employee in leaking embarrassing information from Tripp’s Pentagon file to New Yorker magazine, which Tripp says smeared her reputation.” (Editorial, “Tripp’s Travails,” Daily Oklahoman, 4/10/00)

December 1996: Leak Of Illegal Tape Of Republican Phone Call. “The Florida couple who admitted intercepting a cellular phone conversation among Republican leaders last December were both charged yesterday with violating the federal wiretap statute. The couple, John and Alice Martin, both agreed to plead guilty and cooperate with prosecutors. The identical one-count criminal informations were filed yesterday in Jacksonville, Fla. …In early January, three newspapers said they obtained a copy of the taped call: the New York Times, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, and Roll Call. The three papers declined to reveal their source. The Times did report that it had gotten its copy from a Democratic House Member. … [The Martins] delivered it to Rep. Jim McDermott (Wash), then the ethics committee’s ranking Democrat. … McDermott has refused to answer questions about whether he did provide the tape to news outlets or whether he has been questioned by the FBI.” (Benjamin Sheffner, “Florida Couple Set To Plead Guilty In Taped Call of Gingrich, GOP Leaders,” Roll Call, 4/24/97)

1991: Leak Of Confidential Memo Regarding Anita Hill. “Newsday reporter Timothy M. Phelps was notified March 16 that Senate Special Independent Counsel Peter E. Fleming Jr. had subpoenaed phone records from Sept. 23 through Oct. 6, his newspaper said in a news release. Meanwhile, The New York Times and The Washington Post reported that National Public Radio reporter Nina Totenberg’s phone records were also subpoenaed. The Times said the personal phone records of both reporters, as well as those of their news organizations, were subpoenaed. The reporters have refused to tell Fleming how they learned of Professor Anita Hill’s allegations that Thomas had sexually harassed her when she worked for him. … Fleming, a New York attorney, was hired after the Senate voted to investigate leaks to the news media in two areas: the Hill-Thomas controversy and the Senate ethics investigation of five senators who assisted former thrift owner Charles H. Keating Jr.” (“S&P Says Major Newspaper Companies Show Signs of Improvement,” The Associated Press, 3/29/92)

January 1987: Leak Of Report Causes Leahy To Resign From Senate Intelligence Committee. “While Sen. Patrick Leahy says he regrets leaking a Senate Intelligence Committee draft staff report, the panel’s vice chairman says Leahy’s resignation from the committee should be a warning against similar disclosures. Leahy, in an unusual announcement Tuesday, disclosed that he quietly quit the intelligence panel last January because he was responsible for leaking a preliminary report on the panel’s 1986 Iran-Contra investigation. The Vermont Democrat said his decision to resign was ‘a suitable way to express .. regret and anger’ at the unauthorized release of the document. Committee vice chairman William Cohen, asked whether the incident might serve as a deterrent against future unauthorized leaks, said, ‘yes.’” (Larry Margasak, “Leahy Regrets Leak, Colleague Sees Committee Resignation As Warning,” The Associated Press, 7/29/87)

October 1985: Leak Of Classified Information About The Achille Lauro Incident. “Also in the ‘80s, [Vermont Sen. Patrick] Leahy gained some notoriety as a member of the Intelligence Committee. He was charged with revealing classified information during the Achille Lauro terrorist incident, outraging administration officials.” “After a CIA briefing at 5 a.m. on Oct. 11, 1985, Leahy appeared on the ‘CBS Morning News’ program at 7 a.m. to discuss the Achille Lauro hijacking.” An article in Reader’s Digest claimed “Leahy revealed the CIA knew that Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak was lying when Mubarak claimed the hijackers had left Egypt. ‘Our intelligence was very, very good,’ the article quotes Leahy as saying. Leahy calls the charge he revealed secret information ‘nonsense’ in a letter he sent to the editor of Reader’s Digest demanding an apology. In the letter, Leahy said the material he discussed in the show had already been disclosed by administration officials.” (Jay Nordlinger, “The ‘Nastiest’ Democrat: Sen. Patrick Leahy, Republican Nightmare,” The Weekly Standard, 7/9/01; United Press International, 10/30/86)
55 posted on 03/04/2004 12:22:52 PM PST by ConservativeGadfly (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Sabertooth
I am well aware of what the facts are .. but there are times we can have a little fun and enjoy the the moment

But if you want to be a party pooper .. Go for it
56 posted on 03/04/2004 12:26:11 PM PST by Mo1 (Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?)
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To: Phantom Lord
"he's hispanic"

And don't forget. "WE CAN'T REPEAT THE MISTAKE WE MADE WITH CLARENCE THOMAS"(The meoms are on my screen right now.)

57 posted on 03/04/2004 12:28:14 PM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Dog Gone
I'll believe it when Johnson is fired, liked Hatch and Frist hung Miranda out to dry, or when they do something to stop the unconstitutional filibuster.

Until then, "Republican hardball" is a pipe dream.

With all due respect Dog!
58 posted on 03/04/2004 12:28:17 PM PST by Kryptonite
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To: Sabertooth
Saber, let me tell you something as someone who is right smack dab in the middle of this fight. This memos fight has consumed almost every waking moment for the past few months. The judicial nominations fight has consumed almost every waking moment for me for the past three years.

I have seen an awful lot of disappointment in this battle, but the one thing that CANNOT be said is that Manuel Miranda has been anything but bold.

He has held the line when others have not and he has done the unthinkable inside the Beltway -- despite the cost to his own career and family, he has pressed forward on an issue because he feels it is the right thing to do.

Now you might see this as a losing fight and certainly that is your perogative. I don't.
59 posted on 03/04/2004 12:29:10 PM PST by ConservativeGadfly (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Dog Gone
No, the media talks about process because it doesn't want to get into the uncomfortable content. The Dems get their message out better than Republicans because of friendly newspapers and television networks.

The Pubbies are wimps on talk radio, too. It's not just the media, it's the messengers and their messages.

. I don't have a solution for that, but if you don't think the Republicans can play hardball, you must have missed the Texas redistricting fight of last summer.

That's state politics. The Texas GOP deserves all of the accolades for sticking it to the runaway Dems, but we're talking about the U.S. Senate today.


60 posted on 03/04/2004 12:30:46 PM PST by Sabertooth (Malcontent for Bush - 2004!)
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