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Oregon Ping!

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18 posted on 03/02/2004 3:52:32 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
I missed hearing about this when it happened, but then I'm not in Oregon any longer....sigh. I've gone head to head with Gordon Smith...literally, and we've had some mighty disagreements, but I wouldn't wish this on anyone.
25 posted on 03/02/2004 4:26:44 PM PST by AuntB (Petition to reform SSdisability: http://www.PetitionOnLine.com/SSDC/petition.html)
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To: Salvation
Odd timing for the ping to this thread. My cousin just killed himself yesterday, and it was a bit of a surprise. My understanding of his problems was just that he was a heavy drinker. He had some problems in life, but nothing that unusual - we just about all know someone who will pound down a half rack or better between quitting time & bedtime, and that's what I'm talking about. I used to hang out with him fairly regularly, but I rather dislike hanging around people who drink all the time and it having come to that with him, we grew apart, though he had been my closest cousin and shared a name.

I don't know what I could have done, but learning what I have over the past day, the issues in his life, except for the drinking, weren't a lot unlike those in my own. And while a final solution like that wouldn't be my cup of tea, I think it would be hard to communicate the work it out vs. end it all side of the argument to someone with judgement constantly impaired by alcohol or other substances.

Not sure what sort of legislation would address that issue, we already tried the prohibition thing.
65 posted on 03/02/2004 10:40:01 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (President Bush sends his regards.)
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